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7 hours ago, Matt96 said:

yes i would. if someone considers woman's life more precious than man's one it's definitely a blatant discrimination.

 

and if I would be in a Titanic I would fight for a seat on a boat.

Do you want more to survive or less? do you want a country where more prosper or less? would you cut off your nose to spite your face?

 No one considers a woman's life more precious, You simply help those less able to help themselves first. so that more than otherwise would survive. it is really a very simple proposition.

57 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

It’s never wrong to mock fortune tellers. 

After all he should had seen it coming.

No Net needed,

polluting the water to such extent that no self respecting shark would come anywhere near seems to be working just fine.

Just now, oldlakey said:

If past performance is anything to go on one hopes not

Exactly my point concerning the reply I reacted too.

11 minutes ago, jossthaifarang said:

You must be an American?

Why is commons sense limited to Americans?

9 minutes ago, lovelomsak said:

I think America should tell   Judge James Boasberg  to  take a hike. 

Don't confuse America with Trumpism . America is a concept not consistent with Trumpism 

Unfortunately for you and fortunately for the rule of law,  He told you to take a hike.

24 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Would that be because of a lingering cave man gene? I know living on an isolated island tends to preserve the DNA of obsolete species.

I am sure the cavemen gene is more widely dispersed the the british isles. Though not from an isle,I know I posses more than my fare share , and judging from your avatar I would suspect you do too. LOL

1 minute ago, DrTuner said:

About 65,599,997 British people had nothing to do with what the three divers did in a cave in Thailand. Never understood how people who happen to have same passport feel entitled to claim some piece of achievements of others. Nationalism sucks.

Because everyone knows that the British are genetically predisposed to excel at cave diving and should  be  proud.

18 minutes ago, foxboy said:

"Helping those less powerful (be it ethic, or any other social group)" IS DISCRIMINATION if it is at the expense of others who are denied the benefit, whilst being equally if not more qualified to receive it. 

Discrimination is not always bad.

4 minutes ago, foxboy said:

I assume you mean 'disingenuous'...

I do know exactly what you mean, but it is an irrelevant analogy. This topic is about giving unfair advantages on the basis of race, not sparing the lives of women and children in a life or death situation ?

 yes I did mean Disingenuous,

Helping those less powerful (be it ethic, or any other social group) is not discrimination . It is a helping hand up. Though some suffer because of Affirmative action , collectively the whole country Benefits.

On 7/1/2018 at 6:24 AM, Crossy said:

and to keep it Thailand related

 A Thread so esoteric not even the Op knows what it's about LOL

so IMO not a chance not being Thai related.

You know they don't charge by the word at TVF. Right?

 PS: while responding , the thread was edited to include more content and context, as soon as I read the cartoon I am sure I will have something more clever to say .

Judging From my above reply .it should not be too difficult LOL

 Why not honore all of them? 

1 minute ago, foxboy said:

yes if they are selecting them on the basis of ethnicity. Next...

Your response is desengeneouse You know exactly what I mean . or you should. Next!

4 minutes ago, foxboy said:

Offering benefit to certain minority ethnic groups at the expense of others is 'positive discrimination'. Despite it's good intentions, it is still a form of discrimination and should never be encouraged.

 On a sinking ship  when they say "women and children first" at the lifeboats . will you complain discrimination? 

5 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Actually, I use to know an African-American guy who worked for the DoD.  He would be incensed at the suggestion that he got to where he was due to Affirmative Action.  While AA may have got him in the door, he had to perform just like everyone else to rise through the ranks.  But you're right, there's always going to be that stigma. 

 To every complex problem there is a simple solution that is wrong.

And no one is more simple except of courseTrum's base . 

American society is complex with a large set of subcultures not all of which have access to the same opportunity for  developing potential. 

For some the door is close by, for others very far. Your friend got a litle help getting closer to the door.

"Conservatives" such as Trump want to conserve the status quo while complaining of it's problems, while Progressives (i dont like the term liberal) want o move forward with pragmatic solutions.  Are there unforeseen consequences?Sure there are , and the individuals affected by them are understandably  not happy. But collectively we are all better off for it.

22 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Artist bares Thailand’s dark underbelly

Nothing that a litle whitening cream couldn't fix 

solly I could not resist

6 minutes ago, The Theory said:

The fact is none of those six presidents really tried to do so until now. Europeans always wanted to have a nice political connection with Iranian regim since they could take all natural resources of Iran for dirt cheap. Europeans never care about people of Iran. The only thing France cares is own investments in Iran. 

Hopefully Trump will end this regim soon. For good of the world and for good of the people of Iran. 

MIGA 

5 minutes ago, cooked said:

dear oh deary me. Under the Obama administration there were at one point, 23 000 kids separated from their parents. Trump became aware of the problem and has now signed an order that the kids and their parents won't be separated. Obama never got around to that. In fact they went to great pains to hide the fact that they were dong this.

I'm not sure if you understand that simple fact. As I said above, the families will as soon as possible be housed in disused naval bases.

This has nothing to do with being for or against Trump as you are trying to make it out to be, It's about the press publishing pictures from the Obama era showing kids in cages, it's about distracting from Trump's meeting with Kim, of the continual attack on and distortion of whatever Trump does. 

is that an opinion or a fact? If an opinion , you are welcome to it, is a fact please supply a supporting link. as i was good enough to do with mine.

34 minutes ago, The Deerhunter said:

I always read it was in the eye of the "Beer" holder.    Try not to get too drunk or you might get stung.  Especially if she is taller than you,  big hands, deep voice, etc etc.   Maybe that was his problem.  Picked the wrong ones.  Personally, S.E. Asian and Central-South Americans do it for me.   Daddy always said that the only thing to recommend blondes are that anything white always gets dirty quick.   But then that was not always my experience.  I tried to pick "cool", but frequently just ended up with "cold."

Man sitting at a bar looks at a picture of a woman and takes a drink

sigh loudly and asks the bartender for an other.

takes another drink looks at the picture  and sigh loudly.

After repeating the process a few times the partender feeling bad for him asks

Picture of a long lost love mate?

No replies the man, it is a picture of my wife, after I had enough drinks and she  starts to look good 

It is time to go home!

34 minutes ago, cooked said:

You're quibbling with words. Thanks for explaining that to me, but you haven't changed the facts. So you want the kids to go into detention (jail, caboose, lockup, do porridge) with their parents. OR you want to let them all go free. 

This has nothing to do with supporting Trump. it all started pre-Obama and he didn't get around to signing an executive order as trump has. They are going to a naval base somewhere now, so what's your beef?

By the way, I don't want kids to go to detention ,the law requires it when they enter the country illegally . Both parents and Kids are detained pending legal proceedings.  Under The Trump administration they were detained at separate locations  as a matter  of course rather than if the situation warranted  . I am not sure why you can not understand that simple proposition.

PS: please forgive me for the tersnes of my replies, as a parent I have strong emotions concerning this situation. 

14 minutes ago, cooked said:

You're quibbling with words. Thanks for explaining that to me, but you haven't changed the facts. So you want the kids to go into detention (jail, caboose, lockup, do porridge) with their parents. OR you want to let them all go free. 

This has nothing to do with supporting Trump. it all started pre-Obama and he didn't get around to signing an executive order as trump has. They are going to a naval base somewhere now, so what's your beef?

Please restrain from disseminating   Trump administration talking points

  You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. What I stated in my reply is indisputable fact.  

Below are some additional facts and supporting link:

"The idea that this is simply a continuation of an Obama-era practice is "preposterous," said Denise Gilman, director of the Immigration Clinic at the University of Texas Law School. "There were occasionally instances where you would find a separated family — maybe like one every six months to a year — and that was usually because there had been some actual individualized concern that there was a trafficking situation or that the parent wasn’t actually the parent."  " 

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/fact-check-did-obama-administration-separate-families-n884856

16 minutes ago, cooked said:

I'm sorry if trying to get to the facts confuses you. The other 2000 or so kids came with their parent(s) but tried to come across illegally. Parents go to detention, that's the law. You want to put the kids in jail as well?  Of course if you mean that people that come across illegally with their kids should just be allowed to go, why not just say so. 

Try that in Thailand.

for someone accusing others of fact confusion you seem to be exhibiting some yourself. First you say that the "parents go to detention" then you ask "put the kids in jail as well" 

I am sure you must know that Jail and detention are two different things. Your above argument is a false narrative designed by to make the situation more palatable for the Trumpeteers.

Since you are so keen on the facts,

The fact is that both the Parents and the kids are detained , only at different places, and none of them enters the penal system, at least in this country  this happens after conviction .  

9 hours ago, Andaman Al said:

Precisely!

 

Read the article in my post above (No 3) the whole thing stinks of really smelly stinky stuff.

I remember when Bill Clinton was running for the democratic nomination, Mario Cuomo the Governor of NY then was totally against him, did not have a good thing to say about him. Bill Clinton came to NY and had a behind closed doors meeting with Mario Cuomo, after the meeting they came out and were best friends, the rest of the campaign , according, to Mario Cuomo, Bill Clinton was the second coming of the mesaia!  Bill Clinton wins NY , wins the nomination, and in the General election wins the Presidency.

When Bill Clinton was looking for the best people to form his cabinet, Guess who was the best person to head HUD?  Andrew Cuomo, son of Mario Cuomo and  now governor of NY.

Such are politics

But then we have the supreme court of the USA which is supposed to be above politics. I love to have being a fly on the wall at the Kennedy Trump meeting. Are you familiar of Trump's relationship with Justin Kennedy , Anthony Kennedy's son? who worked on a senior level at  Deutsche Bank, and lend Trump as much as a Billion dollars when no one else would and saved Trump from going under during the darkest hours of the Great Recession. 

Stacking the Supreme court with Trump appointees might be Trump's only salvation, and not too bad for Justin Kennedys future.