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2 minutes ago, Caldera said:
"Regulatory changes" is just PayPal's excuse. They've simply been inept at working out a feasible procedure with the regulator.
TrueMoney and DeeMoney, on the other hand, also had to revise their KYC process due to those very changes. They did that in a way that still allows foreigners to use their services (!) - you just need to supply additional documents to satisfy the new requirements.
It's shameful that a well-established global player such as PayPal failed to find competent staff in Thailand that is able to cut through those minor bureaucratic challenges. What else will they screw up post transition?
Exactly Paypal Thailand would have you believe they have no choice but to close down foreigners accounts but there are other options to verify accounts as with TrueMoney and DeeMoney but they just can't be bothereed,
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5 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:
"Because the Law would never require or force a Financial company to use a private company in this case National Digital Co., Ltd for account verification..."
Really? How come it did, then?
It didn't! Paypal is just using the services of the private company National Digital Co., Ltd for account verification.
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3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:
How do you know that is the case?
Because the Law would never require or force a Financial company to use a private company in this case National Digital Co., Ltd for account verification I mean what if that company were to close down?
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2 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:
Well, many of us have commented on this site about the emails they have been receiving over the past year about this. Strange that you haven't received any. Is the email contact address you gave them still valid?
QuotePayPal have stated very clearly in their emails why they are taking the steps they are, more than once.
Yes I have received Emails from Paypal no problem there
But what I mean is I have never received Emails from Paypal "stated very clearly" why they have chosen to only use the NDID system for account verification.
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6 hours ago, Celsius said:
You do realize this has absolutely nothing to do with PayPal.
Yes it does!
Paypal are required by Thai Law to verify accounts and they have chosen to use NDID verification system because it's the simplest for them but only supports Thai ID's. They could manually verify accounts if they wanted to but they don't.
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2 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:
I am not Thai but I do have an id number (pink card).
It was rejected as not a valid Thai number.
This is not PayPal's fault. It is the 'we are in control' Thai government making the rules.
Paypal are required by Thai Law to verify accounts and Paypal has chosen to use NDID system because it's the simplest for them but only supports Thai ID's. They could manually verify accounts if they wanted.
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25 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:
PayPal have stated very clearly in their emails why they are taking the steps they are, more than once. They did discuss with the Thai government over the past year ways to mitigate the new law and we originally were told that private individuals could continue as usual and the rule would only apply to companies. Then - surprise surprise - the government did a U-turn and blocked that.
No they haven't or at least they have never sent any me any such Emails.
They are required by Thai Law to verify accounts and Paypal has chosen to use NDID because it's the simplest for them but only supports Thai ID numbers. Funny thing is NDID is a private Company nothing to do with the government.
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Lets see how this works out I am pretty sure most Thai's
won't be bothered to go to a Bank to verify the NDID service just to keep or open a PayPal account.
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20 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:Imagining Abhisit blaming Prayut for the Bangkok Massacre.
Lots of handwringing on this one though. Surely Prawit bears some, or the bulk of, the responsibility?
I think Abhisit was always just a puppet PM it was the Military who did the shooting.
PM's in Thailand don't seem to have much control of the Military unless of course they become the PM.In Thailand Generals never loose their power even when they retire.
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34 minutes ago, Neeranam said:
What about the deaths of ''''drug suspects''''' that you ordered to be killed without trial?
Arrogant, pathetic, corrupt killer.
It wasn't only Drug Suspects who were killed they were Civilians, Police, Drug Addict's and Drug Dealers many of whom also had guns.
During a 3 month period of the war on drugs about 2500 people were killed which was about double the average amount at the time.-
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2 hours ago, SoilSpoil said:It happened under your watch, which makes you responsible. You should have taken responsibility and offered your resignation.
Do you know any PM or President in the World who has quit because their Military killed civilians?
In Thailand the Military are way more powerful than any PM and they don't go away after 4 or 5 years.-
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14 hours ago, jacko45k said:
Are you suggesting a differing opinion is not welcome here? Too many here bang on in a silly way about Trump, and masks and the local people, yet have a blind spot to the failings of their own countries. It's a Forum......
Dude what you said doesn't even have anything to do with the topic. But anyway we live here and we have the right to an opinion on the country we live in. I am sure if I was complimenting Thailand you wouldn't complain. Thailand is a great county but it's not perfect same as my own country the UK but I don't complain about the UK here because I don't live in the UK and after all this is a Thai Forum.
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On 10/20/2022 at 6:20 PM, jacko45k said:
A lot of posters seem to want to turn everything into an opportunity to denigrate Thai people..... it is not even a comment from the Thai Government, rather TAT.
I think they have done well to be in less of a mess than the other countries we talk of.
Dude If you don't agree with other peoples views then why do you even come here?
I assume so you can complain about something.
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Lol yea and pay 5k a month Air Con bill instead that's what I paid in my 1st year now after 15 years it's about 1.2k haha
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1 hour ago, FarAway said:That is wrong. It impacts everyone.
We humans not just love but need to see the faces of others. It makes us happy and gives us more social abilities, it makes us comfortable with our surroundings.
Seeing these masked faces all the time caused severe depression with me and my wife.
She was always the only Thai without a mask anywhere. She got a strong character and did not give a damn about the stupid looks from the other people, me neither, but we could feel the bad energy from these people.
But the most important thing for me are kids.
The sister of my wife is working in a kindergarten. She had a 3-years-old boy that was not able to speak one word when he came and was socially awkward. Not one word.
After some time she warmed him up and now it is clear why he was so behind:
His utterly ****** parents wore a mask all the time. Even at home in the house, as the TV and government told them and they obeyed.
This 3 year-old-boy literally never really saw an unmasked face in his whole life until he met the sister of my wife. He now loves her and cries when his parents pick him up, lol..
When we go outside with our 1-and-a-half-year-old daughter I always make sure that she does not see the face of any of these masked ******. Often she cries when she sees masked faces.
It is completely unnatural, inhumane and a torture not just for adult humans and their social life and ability, but especially for kids and toddlers.
And I mean if it would be just seeing these masked people for the kids, bad enough, but we all know it is even worse in LandOfMasks:
Whenever I see a masked toddler or child in Thailand my blood starts to boil and my blood pressure and pulse gets damn high. It honestly breaks my heart everytime and I get a dull pain in my chest just seeing this.
It literally made me physically sick. Whenever I was around masked people my heart rate went up from 80-90 to 110-120 and stayed there until I got out of there.
I came to the conclusion that all the people who do this to their kids are just brainwashed, soulless or both. You can literally see the emptiness in the eyes of these kids compared to non-masked kids.
The mask mania and the underlying reason of soullessness and complete blind obedience is the main reason why we are selling our house right now and will leave Thailand as soon as it is sold. We cannot wait for it to happen.
Selling very cheap, even lower than we bought, just because we want to leave as soon as possible. That is how much this whole mask-mania affected us mentally, even if we ourselves never wore one.
Never in my life I will let my kids grow up in such a society and we do not want to live in one like that as well.I think the only country worse in the world must be China.
So please do me a favor and stop talking this utterly BS that others wearing masks does not affect people around. It is a nightmare. At least for people who still have something like a heart and soul, I know it is not common nowadays.
I completely agree this whole mask thing is probably affecting Children the most starting from Education and can you imagine how backwards the kids must be after learning online for 3 years? They don't even see the expressions on their parents faces so how will they ever develop any social skills. Maybe some don't even recognize their parents now that's very sad. The whole mask thing was only hyped to up to keep SOE in place. I agree if I had kids I would 100% not stay in Thailand not because of facemasks but because they will be brainwashed in the schools to love the Buddhist Religion and the Army and that would disturb me a lot. Now ask yourself who wants to still wear face masks it's the old Dinosaurs who don't care about anything else but themselves.
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3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:
Again it is your view that it is absurd. Why can't folks understand things are done differently by others and accept it.
Yes I absolutely 100% agree everyone to their own but there's a group of Thai's lets call them Maskers they tend to be older influential people in communities who are bullying others who don't want to wear masks into wearing them do you agree with that or not? One example and there are many Banks force people to wear masks even when they don't want to.
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6 hours ago, redwood1 said:
O-Heck I been scolded dozens and dozens of times in the last 2 years in 7-11 for not wearing a mask or not wearing one properly......After a while you get use to the screaming and it does not bother you any more.....But most people don't care if you wear a mask or not...
Heck yea me too I only ever put my mask on when told to but Thai's are way more sensitive to such matters it's like loosing face for them.
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1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:
How is a non mask wearer being forced to wear a mask...I think you might be confused.
Many places won't let you in without a mask for example Banks.
Also temples my wife went without a mask and got told to wear one in public now she won't take it off for fear of getting scolded in public again.
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45 minutes ago, Karma80 said:
Some people here are really triggered by masks. I wear one when I think it's prudent and for my own reasoning that's not for you to debate.
It doesn't impact you. Please carry on with living your own life as you see fit.
In a way it does effect people when they are judged and forced to wear a mask by those who continue wearing masks.
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It's all about hierarchy and importance in Thailand and I guess spouses of cabinet ministers are above the riff raff. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have police escorts when driving and only use the right lane. See a lot of that these days didn't used to.
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3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:Mask wearing continues to be "recommended" by the Thai MoPH for the general public when they are indoor spaces that are congested or poorly ventilated, and that apparently includes when people are on public transportation as well.
And, mask wearing continues to be recommended everywhere for several specific at-risk populations, including the elderly, those with chronic medical conditions and pregnant women.
More than 300 people per day are being hospitalized for COVID in Thailand, still, right now, even with Omicron as the dominant variant here.
So clearly, for those who want to protect their own health and the health of those around them, it IS necessary and a prudent form of protection.
Some exposure to Viruses is good thing as it will help develop a strong immune system so we are ready for the next Covid when it comes.
Personally I haven't had a cold or Flue in like 15 years and not had Covid yet either even though I don't wear a mask but I know people who wear masks and have had Covid twice.
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They are still wearing masks but infections are on the rise?
Probably didn't catch it before as all schools were closed.
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TAT also want it to become permanent that Hotels charge less for Thai's than Farand.
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The reason Thai's are still wearing masks is that they want to perceived as being good people and they are worried to be judged or bullied for not wearing one. If you see Thai's glaring at you in supermarkets when you don't wear one it's because you are being Judged as not a good person.
It's all part of being a Buddhist nothing to do with Covid anymore.-
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PayPal no longer available to foreigners in Thailand
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It just can't be possible the Thai Government would force a Fintech company to use the services of a private company for account verification. Now if that's what PPT is telling you then I am not surprised they've botched this up. In fact it's been a mess since the beginning of the year when they 1st said only registered companies could have accounts.