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Im actually with Mason on this one. It certainly sounds like he (and his wife) are getting the short end fo the stick. From what he has told us I can't see how his wife has not satisfied the 'geniuine visitor' criteria. Secondly, given the frequency of the previous applications, I can't see that any inference can be drawn that his wife is attempting de-facto residence through multiple tourist visa applications. Next application draft a submission to submit with the application. PM if you want some helpful tips.
Regards
Bridge
Bridge,
I agree. It seems as if Mason did
get a bad decision but we know that
it happens.
I was trying to find out if Mason had
been advised by DIAC in writing that
a tourist visa won't be issued.
It was such a long time ago now that
he should just apply again and take
it from there.
Regards
Will
Ok let's move on, let's presume my wife applies for a spouse visa and it's granted, can she move freely outside of Australia during the temporary phase of her spouse visa, otherwise she's back to square one. To me a spouse visa is a real over kill in her situation considering she would probably only spend 90 days in Australia every few years. Let's clear up one thing never has one Aust Govenment done anything for us expats, they give us very little consideration in our partners visa applications, they cut our age pension after 6 months out of Aust or they make you wait for 2 years to requalify, they want to slug us on a higher tax rate with no $6,000 threshold and they will even delete us from Medicare if they think that we're overseas residents. Most of us expats aren't crying poor but we still expect a fair go, people from other countries who migrate to Aust seem to be on every lurk going at our expense, we don't want any special privelleges and handouts, all we want is a fair go for things that come automatic when you reach retirement age. If all us expats united instead of talking about attitude problems etc then we may see some change. I'd like to see some one with the expertise to draft a petition to the appropiate Federal minister and his opposition counterpart and really highlight how Aust expats are treated outside of Aust. If we all emailed the draft then you never know what may happen but it must be an united effort.
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I suppose they could search pattaya for knickerless ladies but they would need to book a very large stadium to hold them in first.
Maybe he's Pattayas PCB, "phamtom crotch biter" and he was returning back home after hunting around clothes lines looking for something to munch on.
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Before this degenerates, may I remind members to please stick to the topic, and not start throwing personal comments at each other.
I know nothing of Australian visa and immigration rules. I do know that every country has it's own requirements and that for each country it's easier for certain nationalities to meet those requirements than others. For example, when my wife and I went on a day visit across the border from Thailand into Myanmar she just had to show her Thai id card and pay a nominal fee; I had to leave my British passport with the border control and pay a much higher fee.
Is this discrimination? I suppose that in the strictest definition of the word, yes it is.
Is this illegal? Depends upon the laws of the country concerned.
Remember that discrimination is not necessarily wrong. When an employer chooses one job applicant over the others, that is discrimination; but it's not wrong. It is the reasons for the discrimination that makes it right or wrong.
Mason, in this and your other topics you have had the Australian rules and requirements explained to you. If you want your wife to visit Australia your only option is to follow those rules and meet those requirements
By all means discuss the rights and wrongs of those rules and requirements on this forum; but remember that doing so ain't going to change anything!
Only the Australian government can change the rules; so if you really want change you should petition them. Unfortunately, though, I would hazard a guess that, like in the UK, the vast majority of Australians simply don't care about this issue, and so the likelihood of any change is very remote.
I take your point 7by7 but if as you say the Aust Immigration rules and requirements are set down by the Aust Government then why does the Bangkok office have a different set of rules than the others. Ive checked with Aust Immigration in KL and SG and they both stated that foreigners married to Australians can come and go as they please as long as they pass the support and character criteria as set down by the Aust Government, not them as appears to be the case with the Bangkok office. I understand the laws but I dont understand the logic, if my wife intended to become an Aust resident then she wouldve applied for a spouse visa long ago but we're only seeking a visa for a holiday in Aust, wouldnt a spouse visa be an overkill if we only wanted to take a holiday for a short time in Aust every 2-3 years. By the way the KL and SG offices emailed their replies within a few hours on receiving them, I certainly wouldn't expect that prompt service from the Bangkok office if I even received a reply at all.
So Mason,
Have you been informed that you have
to apply for a spouse visa and a tourist visa
will not be granted to your wife?
If you haven't, which I suspect, then just
go ahead and apply for a toursit visa.
Regards
Will
Seriously Will are you a Thai who works for the Aust Immigration in Bangkok in as much you talk but you don't listen. I've stated numerous times that the last time (5 years ago) my wife was refused a tourist visa to Aust, she was told on her previous succesfull visa application that there would be no more tourist visas. I can come to terms with that ruling if she was abusing the system but let's get this straight we don't want to live in Australia but surely I can take my wife on a holiday every 2-3 years to my country of birth. It appears if we lived as defactos such as a Buddhist wedding or even nothing then this 2 tourist visas only wouldn't apply. Surely a married woman who's been in a strong relationship for 7 years has more rights than a bar lady who could have a husband under the Buddhist wedding set up. I'm not trying to be a smart arse, I'm trying to bring logic to this discussion and I might add theres' a lot more Aussies in my situation that have the same views as I have, probably theyre sick of banging their heads against the wall looking for what really is a very commonsense issue.
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Before this degenerates, may I remind members to please stick to the topic, and not start throwing personal comments at each other.
I know nothing of Australian visa and immigration rules. I do know that every country has it's own requirements and that for each country it's easier for certain nationalities to meet those requirements than others. For example, when my wife and I went on a day visit across the border from Thailand into Myanmar she just had to show her Thai id card and pay a nominal fee; I had to leave my British passport with the border control and pay a much higher fee.
Is this discrimination? I suppose that in the strictest definition of the word, yes it is.
Is this illegal? Depends upon the laws of the country concerned.
Remember that discrimination is not necessarily wrong. When an employer chooses one job applicant over the others, that is discrimination; but it's not wrong. It is the reasons for the discrimination that makes it right or wrong.
Mason, in this and your other topics you have had the Australian rules and requirements explained to you. If you want your wife to visit Australia your only option is to follow those rules and meet those requirements
By all means discuss the rights and wrongs of those rules and requirements on this forum; but remember that doing so ain't going to change anything!
Only the Australian government can change the rules; so if you really want change you should petition them. Unfortunately, though, I would hazard a guess that, like in the UK, the vast majority of Australians simply don't care about this issue, and so the likelihood of any change is very remote.
I take your point 7by7 but if as you say the Aust Immigration rules and requirements are set down by the Aust Government then why does the Bangkok office have a different set of rules than the others. Ive checked with Aust Immigration in KL and SG and they both stated that foreigners married to Australians can come and go as they please as long as they pass the support and character criteria as set down by the Aust Government, not them as appears to be the case with the Bangkok office. I understand the laws but I dont understand the logic, if my wife intended to become an Aust resident then she wouldve applied for a spouse visa long ago but we're only seeking a visa for a holiday in Aust, wouldnt a spouse visa be an overkill if we only wanted to take a holiday for a short time in Aust every 2-3 years. By the way the KL and SG offices emailed their replies within a few hours on receiving them, I certainly wouldn't expect that prompt service from the Bangkok office if I even received a reply at all.
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How many more times are you going to ask this question Mason...???
gburns, as long as it takes me to get a satisfactory reason as to why my wifes visa application got refused 5 years ago. Everytime I make enquiries I keep on getting referred to the letter that was sent to her, I admit I'm no leagle eagle but I did have a tertiary education and the wording of the letter is well over my head and let's not forget it was sent to her. All I want is a straight answer, how can I rectify a problem if I don't know what the problem is in the first place.
Seems simple enough to me
You ahve answered your own question
They told you since you are married to her
now you must apply for a marriage/wife visa
You applied for another tourist visa and it was
rejected
If they tell you "apply for a wife visa"
and you apply for tourist visa ... of course it was rejected
Why were you surprised?
My wife doesn't want a spouse visa because at this stage we're both very happy living in Bangkok so why would she go through the spouse visa process when we have no intentions of residing in Australia. She applied for a tourist visa for a HOLIDAY also visit our family and friends is that such a big ask?
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How many more times are you going to ask this question Mason...???
gburns, as long as it takes me to get a satisfactory reason as to why my wifes visa application got refused 5 years ago. Everytime I make enquiries I keep on getting referred to the letter that was sent to her, I admit I'm no leagle eagle but I did have a tertiary education and the wording of the letter is well over my head and let's not forget it was sent to her. All I want is a straight answer, how can I rectify a problem if I don't know what the problem is in the first place.
Enough already!
At least 6 times you've raised this.
Nothing's changed.
In your eyes you're never gonna get a satisfactory reason.
You might've got a bad decision before. Either apply for
another visa or don't.
Move on <deleted>.
Regards
Will
If my wife had've been given a reason for refusal in lay mans language instead of the legal clap trap that was sent I would've accepted that but until she's sent correspondence that we can all understand how can I rectify this problem. Let's not forget it was sent to a Thai person so how are they supposed to understand what's going on is beyond me and they wonder why tourists break immigration laws. How do I know if she reapplies that it won't be a repeat of last time.
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How many more times are you going to ask this question Mason...???
gburns, as long as it takes me to get a satisfactory reason as to why my wifes visa application got refused 5 years ago. Everytime I make enquiries I keep on getting referred to the letter that was sent to her, I admit I'm no leagle eagle but I did have a tertiary education and the wording of the letter is well over my head and let's not forget it was sent to her. All I want is a straight answer, how can I rectify a problem if I don't know what the problem is in the first place.
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I'm in a situation, I have to return to Australia for business and family reasons and I really don't want to leave my wife alone. My problem goes like like this, before we married 7 years ago my wife went to Aust on a 3 months visa, we returned to Thailand for about 4 months and she applied for a 6 months visa which was granted but she was told that she shouldn't apply for anymore tourist visas as she was married. The Thai officer at the Aust Immigration told her she had to apply for a spouse visa for any future trips to Aust. I accepted that but after a few years I realised my future was in Thailand and why should my wife apply for a spouse visa if neither of us want to live in Aust. Anyway a special occaison arose for my Aust family and my wife applied for a 3 months visa and was refused, on what grounds even Perry Mason would have trouble giving me a reason given the letter that was sent to my wife, if I didn't understand it of course my wife had no hope. All I want now is a 3 months visa for my wife so that we can be together and our family can reunite after 5 years. We are very financially sound, we live off superannuation, of course tax free and I still own my own home in Aust. May I add the my wife has never contravened one Aust Immigration law on her previous 2 trips to Aust, isn't that sufficient reference to suggest that she would be a worthy visa holder. May I add that a friend of mine with very limited cash and on the Aust age pension and also no assets and paying rent got a 3 months visa for his Thai GF, also recently a close friend of mines work mate got a 3 months visa for his ladyboy partner, obviously marriage means very little with the Aust Immigration in Bangkok. So the question arises should my wife apply for a 3 months visa again or forget about Australia until she obtains a spouse visa, I sent a phantom email to the Aust Immigration in KL and they stated that my wife can go to Australia as many times as she like, but must be accompanied by me because I am her Aust born husband of course subject to the normal supportive conditions. I'm not sure if she should apply again or not.
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A close friend of mine from the UK has recently retired and wishes to settle in Thailand with his Thai wife. He recently received a tourist visa for 2 months, I would've thought he should've received a minimum of 3 months so he can open a Thai bank account and have 400,000 deposited for a minimum of 90 days as per a condition when applying for a non immigration O visa. If he's only been issued with a visa for 2 months only can he get a one month extension. He wants to sort this matter quickly back in the UK before arriving in Thailand soon. Thanks.
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Exactly what package are you on?
If you are simply hook up to a decent Dish, on the C Band, pointed at PAS (or Intel Sat 8), you shouldn't have a problem at all. I have not seen any problems with it since the ABC upgraded a few months back. They now have a beautiful picture and reception - My Thai mates are stunned by the quality of it and the vivid colours.
However if you are using 'Sharing' you will find the ABC Network is no longer available via 'Top Up TV'.
Another way of getting a good ABC Network reception is via DSTV or True's IPTV.
I might add that in the evenings the reception is perfect but daytimes especially early mornings it's that bad that the only option is to turn it off. I have a friend who lives 2 kms from my house and he purchased the same package as me and we both used the same installer and he never has problems like I get.
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In recent months I had problems with my satellite Australian Network TV , all the other channels that come with the package are perfect. I have 2 different decoders coming from the same dish and both decoders have the same excessive picture break up at the same time whereas all the other channels are good. It seems to me that there could be some outside interference but then if this is so why doesn't it affect the other channels that came with the package. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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I have to renew my visa extension now so when will the Chaeng Wattana immigration office resume business after the Kings Birthday weekend.
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My wife comes from Korat, so I know the area fairly well. I'm not to sure about a new hotel near the shopping mall but the nearest hotel that I know is KS Pavillion Hotel in Mittraphap Road, a few minutes walk from the shopping mall, on the opposite side of the road going towards Korat City. It's ok and reasonably priced with breakfast. If you have transport try the Best Hotel on the main highway over the road from the front gate of the army camp also the bus from Morchit Bangkok that goes to Korat on highway 304 stops right outside the front door, there is a price range and they're all very reasonable.
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Put money in account 01 Jan, Mid Feb request 60 day extension?, sometime in March start 1 year extension process?
Yes but apply for the one year extension only by about early/mid-April.
opalhort
My current extension expires on Jan 05 2010, my 400,000 baht would've been in my Thai bank account for 90 days on Dec 10, so when would should I apply for my new visa extension. How long should a visa renewal application be made prior to the current extensions expiry date. Thanks.
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How about sitting down for dinner (on the floor) and putting a huge pile of rice on even a tiny girl's plate, then proceeding to eat by placing minuscule plips of a paste or sauce (probably viol) on the rice. Then repeating with more tiny plips, but never more than one plip at a time. As if the eating pleasure is somehow maximized by eating in plips
. I like to spoon on large amounts in advance just to annoy them. But alas, as usual I am just ignored. I am amazed how a bowl of rice is looked at as though it were tenderloin tips. Mah, gin khao! And everybody excitedly comes a runnin'!
My son inlaw went to university and his English is very good, anyway one day I got talking to him and asked him to write a sign in Thai for our outside toilet, it goes like this : theres no use standing on the seat the crabs in this toilet can jump 6 feet. When we have a mob around for a party which is quite often, you should see the looks on their faces after they've relieved themselves.
Seriously do Thais stand on toilet seats, many of the public toilets Ive been to in Thailand suggest that they straddle the rafters.
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^^I had that the other day mahtin with the gratin (sp) festival and donations. Hours upon hours of "Khun Yai Paengsri 20 baht..... Saatoo! Khun Yai Somjai 100 baht......Saatoo! Khun Yai Daeng 50 baht....Saatoo!" each one followed by a bang on the old gong.
At least have a filter for donations by only announcing the names of people who chipped in at least a grand for Gods sake!
The classic one I like is that every Thai Ive met are experts when they give opinions on the goings on in Pattaya but when questioned they vehemently deny ever being within 50 kms radius of the place.
Taxi drivers give you a running commentary on their perceived persecution of Thaksin whether you can understand Thai or not.
A motor accidents takes place the bystanders form a huddle and start talking, no one even considers rendering assistance to the victims. By the time the BIB's arrive at the scene at least 6 people come forward as witnesses and everyone gives a different account on what actually occured.
Its ok for a Thai to tell lies but he'll throw a wobbly if he knows that you're lying to him.
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Ive had heaps of massages in Thailand and apart from relaxing it doesnt do a thing for me, it just passes the time whilst Im waiting for the good lady. In saying that I think they'd be ok for an aged person with restricted flexibility. I was a well performed cyclist in my younger days and I can feel the difference between a good and bad massage, Thais massuers seem to think the more they hurt you the greter benefits you will feel the following day.
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Thais are all born with the same disease NCO (Never Consider Others) and theres no cure.
A Thai squeezes a pimple and applies a dressing more appropiate for a shrapnel wound.
When you're estimating the fuel consumption and cost for a vehicle full of Thai people,
you allow for the kms/litre multiplied by the price per litre and then add on 30% for
the Thai short cuts.
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My non immigration O visa is expires on Jan 05 2010, so normally I go to the immigration centre in Bangkok and make my application 4 weeks prior to my expiry date. This year December 05 is a Saturday and the Kings birthday, I promised my step daughter ages ago that I'd take her up north for a holiday so maybe I won't be back in Bangkok until December 08. What's the least amount of time that I can apply for a new visa prior to the expiry date. Thanks.
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There is no requirement to actually deposit the money in your bank.
Only proof of income is needed.
I receive AU$2,500 currently around 75,000 baht paid into my Australian bank account every month. If I were to go to the Australian Embassy and show my income statement and sign a statutory declaraction would this be enough to satisfy the Thai immigration.
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If you took that option you would need a letter from your Embassy verifying your income.
If the income was from inside Thailand you would need income tax receipts and a Work Permit.
thanks for your reply lite beer, I'm aware of the requirements that you mentioned but my point is how many months would I need to transfer 40K per month from overseas prior to my application.
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For several years now I've deposited 400K in my Thai bank account 3 months prior to my application as per my non immigration O visa (Thai wife) How many months prior would I have to deposit 40K per month prior the to my application if I took that option.
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My 90 day report is due early November and my non immigration visa is due just prior to Christmas, do I go to the new
immigration office in Chaeng Wattana or Suan Plu to attend to these matters.
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My wife of 6 years and I are thinking about returning to Australia to visit family and friends and do some sight seeing early next year. My wife has been to Australia with me before, once as my girl friend and again as my wife. It's 5 years now since her last visa, she has no permanent job or personal income so I'll be totally supporting her in her stay in Australia if a visa is granted. We plan to go for 3 months, so given the above information which visa application form is appropiate for her. Thanks.
Subclass 676 tourist visa.
Visa application fee is AUD$105 (THB2800).
Application Form 48R which can be downloaded from the DIAC website.
Application can be submitted to VFS in BKK, or you can send directly to the Embassy and avoid the VFS admin fee.
Important - she will need to have adequate funds or 'access' to adequate funds to support herself for the purpose and duration of her proposed visit. If you are providing that support, which I assume you are, then you must include a 'letter of support' outlining the support you will be offering her, financial, accomodation etc. It is also important thay you include supporting documentation that evidences your ability to provide that support.
I'm sorry I didn't mention the fact that my wife was refused a tourist visa for her third application which was 18 months after her first application. The official letter stated that her visa had been refused on one or more of the following clauses but no specifics as to which clause/clauses she failed. she was also told that she wouldn't be considered for a tourist visa again and her only option was a spouse visa. I tried to explain that if we were going to live in Australia she would apply for a spouse visa but in this case we have no intentions of living in Australia so why would a tourist visa be considered inappropiate. Of course the Thai staff at the Australian immigration office wouldn't listen to a word I said, my wife passes all the qualifying clauses, so what's the problem , I sense that they considered the first two visas and the application for the third visa were to close together, if that's the case why didn't give me a straight out answer instead of an official letter full of legal mumbo jumbo.
. I like to spoon on large amounts in advance just to annoy them. But alas, as usual I am just ignored. 
Are Thai Women Married To Aussies Discriminated Against At The Aust Immigration.
in Visas and migration to other countries
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Will, thanks for your reply maybe if this reply had've been a lot earlier then it would've cut out a lot of unneccesary crossfire. I wasn't really off topic in regards to the treatment of expats by all Aust governments but I thought it was worth a mention if someone could post a well written petition and the email addresses of the appropiate ministers both government and opposition then maybe we could make some leeway. We may not get much but we may get a few concessions if we can make enough noise considering there's a Federal election year in Aust.