petedk

The real story of today has turned out not to be yet another imposed then ignored deadline. obviously water and electricity will never be cut off to thousands of residents, two hospitals, and other non reds.

The real story is weera.

obviously after missing 4 days there is an excellent chance that he has not only been deposed, but that he may be held against his will. IF this is true, it would signal a coup within the Red high command, and that talk a couple of days ago about a new level of leaders taking over might in fact have truth to it.

and that raises the question as to what are the objectives of the new leadership, and how do they differ from the past?

revolutionary movements have a history of consuming their own leaders (eg the French Revolution). sometimes what follows is a far more radical version of what preceeded.

at this delicate moment, that certainly wouldnt be helpful. lets hope there is an alternative explanation.

The girlfriend's watching MCOT tv and they just said that Weera wanted to do a deal with the government and end the protest. Something about he got permission to do some unfinished business with family and fled the country. Part of a big deal with government.

Sorry it's a bit confusing but that's all she said.

"One of leading mobile companies refused to cut off its signal around Rajprasong area as asked by govt.

The company is concerned ab consumer protection law. Signal jamming could be done only for security propose like in the deep south"

source: The Nation

why is everyone so concerned about breaking minor laws in order to remove these people who are breaking other laws daily?

Wow...isn't that great....after 2 months they have decided to cut off electric, water, etc. Should have been done 6 weeks ago.

cannot cut.... Embassies, hospital,... in the area and NGOs will shout at the Human Right Violation....

Error....Error....Error....just a bluff

You will find a number of embassies closed tomorrow. The foreign envoys were called for a meeting today at the foreign ministry - hopefully this will be IT the final end to this terrorist mob and Bangkok will be free again

I don't think this will be the end

THE NATION: CRES postpones the power & electricity cut at the rally site for the time being. To decide again at 6am tomorrow.

So they are changing their tune. I guess all we have to do now is wait for the crackdown to finally begin.

What crackdown?

Just read this:

MCOTEnglishnews: CRES threatens to retake protest site at Ratchaprasong if Red Shirts don't end protest by Wednesday

THE NATION: PM: No more compromise, tomorrow is the deadline. via NNA

THE NATION: PM: One week is enough. no more talk.

and what will he do? No one will help him. The police don't care, the army don't care.

No wonder they can't find him.

I've never seen any Pantip or Fortune town.

Maybe TrueVisions can deliver them together with a satellite dish.

I think you've got the wrong forum mate.

Status symbol, prestige, fashion..... you name it.

I know 2 or 3 Thai people who have a Blackberry but have no idea how to use the most simple functions such as SMS or instant messaging.

My students sit with Blackberries all day long sending messages and I have warned them many times that i will fail them if they continue to use them in class. They are simply addicted.

I thought it was illegal for foreigners to take part i demonstrations. Oops I forgot the word "illegal" means nothing in Thailand.

But when it comes to foreigners maybe it has some meaning. I guess he'll be deported and banned from Thailand at some point.

Why, for God's sake is the City under siege?

Are you sure you don't mean, "Why, for God's sake is my favorite shopping mall under siege?"

Didn't you see the road over the Klong near Pantip Plaza? Hundreds of tires, sharpened bamboo sticks, barbed wire, reds making people stop for electronic search, loud speakers blarring, trash (human and other). It's like needing reds permission to take the klong boat. GEEZE And the govt/police others do NOTHING. Pitiful, (both sides) just plain pitiful.

Yes, great!!! Now we can cross the road without fear of being knocked down.

Seriously though. Yes, it was a frightening experience the first time walking past that area.

I didn't know how to get to the boats on Klong Saen Saeb and didn't realise I had to pass through the blockade. So, yes the red shirts have certainly impeded freedom of movement in Bangkok.

Aaaaah Now I understand why there were delays on the BTS this morning. I travelled from Thong Lor to Asoke and at Thong Lor was greeted by the speakers saying something about sorry for the inconvenience and that normal services would be resumed within 5 minutes.

I got off at Asoke and saw the troops moving away from the stairs and escalators. My immediate thoughts were that there had been some kind of interference from red shirts or others.

Now I realise it must have been this episode.

I looked on BBC earlier and now't there.

I know I checked BBc , Cnn and a few others. Nothing.

Obviously not so important as we think it is. People probably storm and search hospitals the world over every day.

These red leaders are doing this when they are *not in power*.

What will they be doing IF they are???

My thoughts entirely.

Frightening.

Strange how quiet the foreign media is about this.

Anyone read anything on foreign news websites?

Maybe they were suspicious of the care given after the time the hospital refused police who were trying to stop the PAD protests? The hospital has that reputation of politcal favoring..

Thanks for clearing that up clausewitz. Suspicion and paranoia is a good enough and justified reason to terrorize a hospital by a wanted criminal and his followers. Impressed.

"Payap announced through a loudspeaker that search to be resumed tomorrow morning."

They found nothing during this highly illegal and denial of rights to others. They will now inspect tomorrow? Good news for the UDD supporters, at least you know what Thailand will be like if the reds succeed in this. You thought Burma was bad?

Apparently they found two "suspects" that they are taking to the red's stage.

I have this deep feeling that the UDD has a sense of entitlement for some reason. Wanting to "reclaim" something that never was their's in the first place. These folks are getting more whacked by the day. So much for patient privacy or any sense of privacy at all these past few days if you're an unlucky motorist pulled over and threatened by the UDD police department.

"TR @Neaw_NBC: RT @yoware: A red leader, Payap, asked Chula Hospital to evict soldiers stationing there, or reds will "reclaim" the hospital."

"Tension at Chula Hospital at moment. Hundreds of reds demanding to search for "hiden" soldiers there."

"RT @tistoo: heated negotiations just mins ago at Chula Hospital"

"Payap and some red representatives have been allowed to "inspect" hospital. The reds are really pushing it this time."

Source: Tulsathit

I would suggest to you that if they keep taking this path, they shouldn't expect much sympathy when their wounded are refused.

Terrorising a hospital in the name of democracy? Is this a new kind if democracy that only they know about?

I lost any sympathy for them weeks ago. They are nothing more than terrorists hel_l-bent on creating anarchy. Nowhere in the world would any of their terrorist activities be allowed to happen. They are all a shameful lot, even the so called innocents who condone this stuff. How people here can truly support this cause is beyond words.

TR @tistoo: Nurses huddle as mobs "inspect" hospital

"TR @tistoo: Hundred or more reds "inspecting" the main hospital building."

"unspeakable. Police just allowed red mob to create scenes at a hospital."

How can they demand to inspect a hospital? Do they have no respect for anything?

They claim to have found names on a whiteboard as evidence of "hidden forces"

Did someone say they don't have weapons?

I have no problem with people like that being shot anyone with a gun being shot but I have also seen videos of unarmed innocent reds shot in the head by the military

theres no doubt some are armed but when you meet violence with violence you get blood

The right way is to take away there ammunition and that is easy just hold an free and fair election JOB DONE everyone goes home and the rightful leaders will win the election

'''videos of unarmed innocent reds shot in the head by the military''

lets see the video then .......come on, its good to share

Its on here somewhere quite a grissly video though cause the guys head is blown to pieces maybe someone else knows there the link is

I think he means the video from Tha Pra where a red shirt was shot and his skull was ripped open.

It's been shown on TV many times and he was shot by a "man in black" not the military.

Anti-government protesters forced a rush hour shutdown of Bangkok's busy elevated train system Tuesday and promised to expand protests that have plunged the Thai capital into chaos by sending teams of demonstrators throughout the city.

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This would fall into the category labeled anarchy.

Well quite often in my home city of liverpool a shopping trolley would be thrown on the tracks, this is an act of vandalism rather than anarchy. And to be fair for anarchy to exist one would have to assume that there was law and order to start with.

So yesterday the prime minister announced that they would get tough and contain the reds at the Rajaprasong site. Today the reds announce that 2000 of them will leave Lumphini Park at 10,30 and head for Pathum Thani.

Will the government try to stop them or will they be allowed to do whatever they want as usual.

If they are allowed to go then surely this is anarchy.

I'm on Thong Lor but sounded from far away

Maybe from other side of town, I'm in Pratunam and haven't heard anything nearly as loud as the guys on the Rajprasong stage...

Maybe just firecrackers but it made me stop up for a second or two. I wouldn't normally react to anything like that but in these times.....

I'm on Thong Lor but sounded from far away

Just heard several explosions around Sukhumvit. Fireworks or ...?

Anyone else hear?

How on earth can they drag tyres up to the tracks without being stopped?

What are security guards for?

Just read from the Nation that all BTS trains are canceled because the reds put tyres on the tracks at Chidlom.

There is no stopping these guys. They do whatever they want to do now.

I have been using TOT 3G on my mobile (Nokia E51 and Nokia E72) around Bangkok and the speeds are really good but....... when I connect to my laptop I only get the fast speed for about 5 minutes then the whole thing freezes. Not sure whether this is a 3G, mobile telephone or laptop problem.

Television Mcot (channel 4?)

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