BygonKeaw

Bilderbergs etc etc are responsible for small problems like this.............

"The trends now indicate that our(USA) country is going bankrupt. The probability is, our country will move toward a military dictatorship, to prevent riots and complete social break down. Once the US breaks down, all the other cultures will under go similar things.

As of now, the world financial system is on the brink of collapse, due to its own shortcomings. The comptroller of currency stated in 2003 that the interest on the US national debt will not be affordable in less than 10 years. This theoretically means total bankruptcy for the US economy. And it's implications for the world, are immense.

In turn, the fractional reserve based monetary system is reaching its theoretical limits of expansion and the banking failures you are seeing are just the beginning. This is why inflation is skyrocketing, all debt is at record levels and the government and fed are hemorrhaging new money to bail out the corrupt system. For, the only way to keep the banks going is by making more money… the only way to make more money is to create more debt and inflation. It is simply a matter of time before the tables turn and there is no one willing to take new loans, while defaults grow, as people are unable to afford their current loans. Then the expansion of money will stop and contraction will begin on a scale never before seen, ending a century long, pyramid scheme. This has already begun."

who is eric?

"Treasury Secretary Geithner and Carl Bildt touted a shorter recession not a 10-year recession….partly because a 10 year recession would damage Bilderberg industrialists themselves, as much as they want to have a global department of labor and a global department of treasury, they still like making money and such a long recession would cost them big bucks industrially because nobody is buying their toys….the tilt is towards keeping it short," said Tucker.

Tucker concluded by noting that Bilderberg members seemed grim faced at this year's meeting and that geo politically, "Things are going bad for them, Americans are responding, Europeans are responding, and their program is being blocked."

http://snippits-and-slappits.blogspot.com/...rence-2009.html

If im still alive when it all comes out i cant wait to ridicule the sheeple on here.(bookmark this thread)

"Since the inception of Federal Reserve in 1913 a number of large and small wars have commenced, With the three most pronounced - the World War I, World War II and Vietnam...The United States official declaration of war with Vietnam in 1964..."

That's wrong - you're getting even the most obvious details of your postings incorrect. Despite your conviction otherwise, there never was a declaration of war with Viet Nam.

(Obviously they mean the Gulf of Tonkin Incident)

Is that all you can say? Cmon more please

Your not another from the brainwashed naam clone are you?

I know u dont like clicking on links naam so i posted some interesting stuff for you to read. Enjoy

Since the inception of Federal Reserve in 1913 a number of large and small wars have commenced, With the three most pronounced - the World War I, World War II and Vietnam.

World War I

In 1914 European war broke out centered around England and Germany. The American public wanted nothing to do with the war. In turn President Woodrow Wilson publicly declared neutrality. However, under the surface the US administration was looking for any excuse it could find to enter. In another observation by the Secretary of State, William Jennings:

“The large banking interests were deeply interested in the world war because of the wide opportunities for large profits.” –William Jennings Bryan

It's important to understand that the most lucrative thing that can happen for the international bankers is war. For, it forces the country to borrow even more money from the Federal Reserve Bank at interest. Woodrow Wilson's top adviser and mentor was Colonel Edward House, the man with the intimate connections with the international bankers who wanted in the war. In the documented conversation between Colonel House, Wilson's adviser and Sir Edward Grey, the Foreign Secretary of England regarding how to get America into the war, Grey inquired:

“What will American do if germans sink an ocean liner with American passengers on board?”

House responded:

“I believe that a flame of indignation would sweep the United States and that by itself would be sufficient to carry us into war.”

So, on May 7th 1915 on essentially the suggestion of Sir Edward Grey, the ship called the Lusitania was deliberately sent into German controlled waters where German military vessels were known to be. And as expected, German U-boats torpedoed the ship, exploding stored ammunition, killing 1.200 people.

To further understand the deliberate nature of this set up: the German embassy actually put advertisements in the New York Times telling people that if they board the Lusitania they did so at their own risk as such a ship sailing from America to England through the war zone would be liable to destruction. In turn, and as anticipated, the sinking of the Lusitania caused a wave of anger among the American population. And America entered the war a short time after. The First World War cost 323.000 American deaths. J.D.Rockefeller made 200 million dollars off of it. That's about 1.9 trillion by today's standards. Not to mention the war cost about 30 billion dollars for America. Most of which was borrowed from the Federal Reserve Bank at interest furthering the profits of the international bankers.

World War II

On December 7th, 1941 Japan attacked the American fleet at Pearl Harbor triggering our entry into that war. President Franklin D. Roosevelt declared the attack was "a day that will live in infamy". A day of infamy indeed, but not because of the alleged surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. After 60 years of surfacing information it is clear that not only was the attack on Pearl Harbor known weeks in advance, it was outright wanted and provoked. Roosevelt, whose family had been New York bankers since the 18th century, whose uncle Frederick was on the original Federal Reserve Board was very sympathetic to the interest of the international bankers, and the interest was to enter the war because as we've seen - nothing is more profitable for the international bankers than war. In a journal entry by Roosevelt's Secretary of War Henry Stimson dated November 25, 1941 he documented a conversation he had with Roosevelt.

“The question was how should we maneuver them into firing the first shot… It was desirable to make sure the Japanese be the ones to do this so that there should remain no doubt as to who were the aggressors.” –Henry Stimson, Secretary of War

In the months leading up to the attack on Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt had done almost everything in his power to anger the Japanese showing the posture of aggression: he halted all of Japan's imports with American petroleum, he froze all of Japanese assets in the United States, He made public loans to Nationalist China and supplied military aid to the British, both enemies of Japan in the war, which by the way is completely in violation of international war rules. And on December 4th, three days before the attack, Australian intelligence told Roosevelt about a Japanese task force moving towards Pearl Harbor. Roosevelt ignored it. So as hoped and allowed, on December 7th, 1941 Japan attacked Pearl Harbor killing 2.400 soldiers. Before Pearl Harbor 83% of the American public wanted nothing to do with the war. After Pearl Harbor - one million men volunteered for the war.

It is important to know, Nazi Germany's war effort was largely supported by two organizations: one of which was called I.G.Farben. I.G.Farben produced 84% of Germany's explosives and even the Zyklon B used in concentration camps to kill millions. One of the unspoken partners of I.G.Farben was J.D.Rockefeller's Standard Oil Company in America. In fact, the German Air Force could not operate without a special additive patented by Rockefeller's Standard Oil. The drastic bombing of London by Nazi Germany, for example, was made possible by a $20 million sale of fuel to I.G.Farben by the Rockefeller's Standard Oil Company. This is just one small point of the topic how American business funded both sides of World War II.

One other treasonous organization worth mentioning is the Union Banking Corporation of New York City. Not only did they financed numerous aspects of Hitler's rise to power along with actual materials during the war, it was also a Nazi money-laundering bank which was eventually exposed for having millions of dollars of Nazi money in its vaults.

The Union Banking Corporation of New York was eventually seized for violations of the Trading with the enemy Act. Guess who the director and vice president of the Union Bank was? Prescott Bush, our current president's grandfather and of course our former president's father. Keep that in mind when considering the moral and political dispositions of the Bush family.

Vietnam War

The United States official declaration of war with Vietnam in 1964 came after an alleged incident involving two US destroyers being attacked by the North Vietnamese PT boats in the Gulf of Tonkin. This was known as the Gulf of Tonkin Incident. This single situation was the catalystic pretext for massive troop deployment and full-fleshed warfare. One problem, however. The attack on the US destroyers by Vietnamese PT boats never happened. It was a completely staged event to have an excuse to enter the war. Former Secretary of Defence Robert McNamara stated years later that the Gulf of Tonkin Incident was a mistake, while many other insiders and officers have come forward relaying that it was a contrived farce and complete lie.

Once in the war, it was business as usual. In October 1966 President Lyndon Johnson lifted trade restrictions on the Soviet block knowing full well that the Soviets were providing upwards of 80% of North Vietnam war supplies. Consequently, the Rockefeller interests financed factories in Soviet Union which the Soviets used to manufacture military equipment and send it to North Vietnam.

However, the funding of both sides in this conflict was only one side of the coin. In 1985 Vietnam's Rules of Engagement were declassified. This detailed what American troops were and were not allowed to do in the war. It included absurdities like:

* North Vietnamese anti-aircraft missile systems could not be bombed until they were known to be operational

* No enemy could be pursued once they crossed the border of Laos or Cambodia. And most revealing of all..

* The most critical strategic targets were not allowed to be attacked unless initiated via high military officials.

Apart from these imposed ludicrous limitations North Vietnam was informed of these restrictions and therefore could based entire strategies around the limitations of the American forces. This is why the war went on so long. And the bottom line is this: the Vietnam War was never meant to be won. Just sustained. This war for profit resulted in 58.000 American deaths and 3 million dead Vietnamese. So, where are we now?

September 11th was the jump start for, what is now, accelerating agenda by the ruthless elite. It was a staged war pretext, no different than the sinking of the Lusitania, the provoking of Pearl Harbor and the Gulf of Tonkin lie. In fact, if 9/11 wasn't a planned war pretext, it would be an exception to the rule. It has been used to launch two unprovoked illegal wars, one against Iraq and one against Afghanistan. However, 9/11 was a pretext for another war as well. The war against you. The Patriot Act, Homeland Security, the Military Tribunals Act and other legislations are all completely and entirely designed to destroy your civil liberties and limit your ability to fight back against what is coming.

Currently in the United States, unannounced and most brain-washed Americans, your home can be searched, without a warrant, without you being home, you can in turn be arrested with no charges revealed to you, detained indefinitely with no access to a lawyer and legally tortured, all under the suspicion that you might be a terrorist.

If you need a painted picture of what is happening in this country, let's recognize how history repeats itself. In February 1933, Hitler staged a false flag attack burning down his own German Parliament building, the Reichstag and blamed it on communist terrorists. Within the next few weeks he passed the Enabling Act which completely eradicated the German Constitution, destroying people's liberties. He then led a series of pre-emptive wars all justified in German people as necessary to maintaining "homeland security".

“An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child of this great nation, we must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland.”

-Adolf Hitler, when announcing the Gestapo to the people.

“On the matter of communism and its front organizations should not obscure the issue!”

–Adolf Hitler

“Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists and every government that supports them.”

- George W. Bush

It's time to wake up. The people in power go out of their way to make sure that you are perpetually misled and manipulated. The majority's perception of reality, especially in the political arena, is not their own. It's shrewdly imposed upon them without them even knowing it. For example, the public at large actually believes the invasion of Iraq is going badly as sectarian violence doesn't seem to stop. What the public fails to see is that the destabilization of Iraq is exactly what the people behind the government want. This war is to be sustained so the region can be divided up, domination of the oil maintained, continual profits reaped for the defence contractors and most importantly, permanent military bases established to be used as a launching pad against other oil-bearing nonconforming countries such as Iran and Syria. For further implication that the civil war and estabilization is purely intentional, in 2005 two elite British SAS officers were arrested by Iraqi police after being caught driving around in their car, shooting at civilians while dressed up as Arabs. After being arrested and taken to a jail in Basra, the British Army immediately requested the release of these men. When the Basra Government refused, British tanks came in and physically broke out the men from the Basra prison.

“If you wish to destroy an area, how do you do it? Well there are two ways: you can go in there and bomb it and so forth, but that is not very efficient. What you do is you try to get the people in that area to kill each other and to destroy their own territory, their own farms, and that's what's been done to that area. So, the way in which you destroy the bond is get him to destroy himself by dividing his ranks against one another.”

“And then you feed both sides, you have agents feeding both sides - inflaming both sides, and they kill each other off. And it's time that some of us woke up to this reality, to understand that will people try to maintain empires and create empires. They do it by manipulating the people they are trying to conquer.”

You might wanna ask yourself why the entire culture is utterly saturated with mass media entertainment from all sides while the educational system in America continues its stupefying downwards slide since the US Government decided to take over and subsidize the public school system.

“What your government pays for, it gets. When we understand that, then we look at government financed institutions of education and see the kind of students and the kind of education that's been turned out by these government financed schools, the logic will tell you that if what has been turned out in those schools was not in accord with what the state and the federal government wanted then it would change it.”

“The bottom line is that the government is getting what they have ordered. They do not want your children to be educated. They do not want you to think too much. That is why our country and our world has become so proliferated with entertainments, mass media, television shows, amusement parks, drugs, alcohol and every kind of entertainment that keep the human mind entertained. So that you don't get in the way of important people by doing too much thinking. You had better wake up and understand that there are people who are guiding your life and you don't even know it.”

In 2005 an arrangement between Canada, Mexico and the United States was made. This arrangement, unannounced to the public, unregulated by Congress, merges the United States, Mexico and Canada into one entity, erasing all borders. It's called the North American Union. You might wanna ask yourself why you never heard of this. In fact, there is only one mainstream reporter who's actually heard of and has had the courage to cover this issue.

“The Bush Administration's open border policy and its decision to ignore the enforcement of this country's immigration laws is part of a broader agenda. President Bush signed a formal agreement that will end the United States as we know it. And he took this step without approval from either the US Congress or the people of the United States.” –CNN

“It's a deal that few have even heard of.”

“It's been done again by very few people at the very top, on behalf of the investment class. But the working class of people, political officials who cross our country from communities, from cities and so forth, they don't know anything about this.” –CNN

This isn't some trade agreement. It is a total removal of sovereignty from these countries which will also result in a completely new currency called the Amero.

“...apart from that I think one thing, people who are dollar based need to focus on is the Amero. That's the one thing that nobody is talking about, but I think it's gonna have a big impact on everybody's life in Canada, the US and Mexico. And the Amero is the proposal of currency for the North American community which is being developed right now between Canada, the US and Mexico to make a borderless community much like the EU and the dollar, Canadian Dollar, US Dollar, and the Mexican Peso replaced by the Amero. –Steve Previs

By default of this agreement, the American Constitution will eventually be obsolete. You would think that a situation like this would be on the cover of every major newspaper. That is until you realize the people who are behind this movement are the same people who are behind the mainstream media and you are not told what you're not supposed to know. The North American Union is the same concept as the European Union, the African Union and the soon-to-be Asian Union. And the same people are behind all of them. And when the time is right the North American, the European Union the African Union and the Asian Union will be merged together forming the final stages of the plan these men have been working on for over 60 years – a One World Government.

“We shall have world government whether or not we like it. The only question is whether world government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”

-Paul Warburg, Council on Foreign Relations / Architect of The Federal Reserve System.

In 1910 a secret meeting was held at the J.P.Morgan's estate on Jekyll Island off the coast of Georgia. It was there that the central banking bill called the Federal Reserve Act was written. This legislation was written by bankers, not law makers. This meeting was so secretive, so concealed from Government and public knowledge that a 10 or so figures who intended disguised their names when on route to the island. After this bill was constructed, it was then handed over to their political front man, Senator Nelson Aldrich, to push through Congress. And in 1913, with heavy political sponsorship by the bankers, Woodrow Wilson became president, having already agreed to sign the Federal Reserve Act in exchange for campaign support. And two days before Christmas, when most of Congress was at home with their families, the Federal Reserve Act was voted in and Wilson in turn made it law. Years later Woodrow Wilson wrote, in regret:

“[Our] Great Industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men.. who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom.”

“We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world –no government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.”

-Woodrow Wilson

The World is being taken over by a hand-full of business powers who dominate the natural resources we need to live, while controlling the money we need to obtain these resources. The end result will be world monopoly based not on human life but financial and corporate power. And, as the inequality grows, naturally, more and more people are becoming desperate. So the establishment was forced to come up with a new way to deal with anyone who challenges the system. So they gave birth to the ‘Terrorist’.

The term ‘terrorist’ is an empty distinction designed for any person or group that chooses to challenge the establishment. This isn’t to be confused with the fictional ‘Al Qaida’, which as actually the name of a computer database of the U.S.-supported Mujahadeen in the 1980’s.

In 2007, the Department of Defense received 161.8 billion dollars for the so-called global war on terrorism. According to the national counter-terrorism center, in 2004 roughly 2000 people were killed internationally due to supposed terrorist acts. Of that number, 70 were American. Using this number as a general average, which is extremely generous, it is interesting to note that twice as many people die from peanut allergies a year than from terrorist acts. Concurrently, the leading cause of death in America is coronary heart disease, killing roughly 450,000 each year. And in 2007, the government’s allocation of funds for research on this issue was about three billion dollars. This means, that the US government, in 2007, spent 54 times the amount for preventing terrorism, than it spent for preventing for the disease, which kills 6600 times more people annually, than terrorism does. Yet, as the name terrorism and Al Qaida are arbitrarily stamped on every news report relating to any action taken against US interests the myth grows wider!

In mid 2008 the “US Attorney General” actually proposed, that the US congress officially declare war against the fantasy. Not to mention as of July 2008, there are now over 1 million people currently on the US terrorist watch list.

These so called “Counter-Terrorism Measures” of course had nothing to do with social protection, and everything to do with preserving the establishment amongst the growing Anti-American sentiment both domestically and internationally, which is legitimately founded on the greed based corporate empire expansion that is exploiting the world.

The true terrorists of our world, do not meet at the docks at midnight or scream “Allah Akbar” before some violent action. The true terrorists of our world, wear 5000 dollar suits, and work in the highest positions of finance, government and business.

“Before 1980, Afghanistan produced 0% of the world’s opium.

After the US/CIA backed Mujahadeen won the Soviet/Afghan war. by 1986 they were producing 40% of the world’s heroin supply.

By 1999, they were producing 80% of the total market supply.

But then, something unexpected happened.

The Taliban rose to power, and by 2000 they had destroyed most of the opium fields.

Production dropped from 3.000+ tons to only 185 tons, a 94% reduction.

On Sept. 9th 2001, the full Afghanistan invasion plans were on President Bush’s Desk

Two days later they had their excuse

Today, opium productions in US controlled Afghanistan,

which now provides more than 90% of the world’s heroin, breaks new production records nearly every year.” - Source Washington Post and UNODC Report

How do we stop a system of greed and corruption, that condemns poor populations to “Sweatshop-Slavery” for the benefit of Madison Avenue? Or that engineers false-flag terror attacks for the sake of manipulation? Or that generates built-in modes of social operation which are inherently exploited? Or that systematically reduces civil liberties, violates human rights in order to protect itself from it’s own shortcomings?

How do we deal with numerous covert institutions, such as the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Group, and the other undemocratically elected groups, which behind closed doors collude to control the political, financial, social, and environmental elements of our lives?

In order to find the answer, we must first find the true underlying cause. For the fact is, the selfish corrupt power and profit based groups are not the true source of the problem, they are symptoms.

How can one idiot talk so muck BS. The best thing is to ignore this complete moron. PS I have one wish to meet this guy in a bar - please God!

my deprogrammed friend. this is the last time i tolerate that you call me or others (as it happened) an idiot or a moron. read the forum rules and watch your language.

p.s. i don't frequent bars but i offer you in all honesty and inspite of my age to beat the living shit out of you in my front yard. sshhhh... this offer is of course not in line with the forum rules. that means we have to keep it a secret

Oh no not only do we know naam is a narrow minded complete buffon but we have also found out he is a snitch. I guess your trying to get this thread closed down as you seem to have thrown your dummy out the pram

of course... one could ask for the advice of "the one that knows" to suggest alternatives. chances are that he'll solve the problem by posting an enlightening picture which describes the optimal procedure and/or a youtube clip where alternatives are actually shown to benefit those who are reading (and otherwise) slightly impaired

p.s. pun not intended. i swear all holy oaths, e.g. i swear by the non-decaying poo of my dog in my backyard and all the future generations he will sire although his nuts were removed.

Cant u remember that i told you to watch this

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2296490368603788739

Or u can watch this too.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3719259008768610598

Jeez you just keep making yourself look more narrow minded and ignorant than you have already proven. Your funny as well as odd

EDIT oh and btw the 2 links above dont blame anyone just raise questions that need to be answered. i warn however you can only watch them both with a open mind.

Bilderberg is only a decoy as our planet is actually run by aliens from Uranus who commute between there and Area 51 via UFOs using alien technology they have provided to the U.S. Military.

Eyes only sensitive….do not repeat.

deprogrammed persons reading this information are committing a federal crime. if caught they face detention in Guantanamo where their brain cells will receive some common sense reprogramming

That is very difficult to achieve as the deprogramming removes almost all of the braincells.

the solution is transplants

If you step outside the box you live in your ridiculed. Its a just a real shame how blind sheeple are. baaaaaaaaa

You can see a 757 - I must take my hat off to your programmers, f*cking geniouses

ahh.. i always loved Pot Black

Is that all you can come up with?? LOL

more proof

eyewitness anyone..?

edit: of course, he could be a Bilderberger...

I thought the goverment said the plane was vapourised on impact? So is the guy that saw dead bodies strapped to seats lieing or the goverment??

more proof

Well, if you'd clicked on that link I posted you could have read dozens of eyewitness accounts and seen pictures of the damage done to the highway they were travelling on. Maybe they're all liars, I don't know. I doubt it though.

I don't dispute there is a government coverup of many facts regarding the events of 9/11, including the funding by "a sovereign government" and what happened to that plane over Pennsylvania.

Yes i did click your link.

Americans are crying out for a independant enquiry. Everyone knows 911 is a inside job. wake up mate. seriously

Ps have u even seen the link just after the pentagon was hit of donald rumsfeld running around outside the pentagon carrying a stretcher with some other people? <deleted>?? america "apparently" under attack and the united states defense secutary running around like a right knob, thats just unbelievable????

87 security cameras and no confirmed footage of a plane hitting.

Boeing 757 or missile

look closer

How about the caretaker that was given a medal of honour by george bush the guy that was in the basement when all the bombs were going off? Even at least 1 before the 1st plane hit

This is the same guy that wasnt allowed in the main hearing of the 911 comission as he wasnt deemed important enough.

BOMBS PROOF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw

"Why the hel_l would the supposed terrorist pilot fly a a massive plane 3 feet off the ground "

He didn't. The plane hit the ground, and rebounded into the Pentagon.

I love the conspiracy folks who claim that the "mainstream media" ignored various stories, and that only the internet provides the true. Most of us are intelligent to know that, if a story is only on the internet, it's not true.

Actually your wrong. Anyway were did the wings go. fold up jusr before inpact??

Cmon mate do some research! doh

Didn't hundreds of eyewitnesses view this plane as it buzzed them on a freeway just prior to it hitting the Pentagon?

Got some eyewitness accounts?? Have you even seen that zero investigation 911 or loose change documentary?

87 security cameras and no confirmed footage of a plane hitting. All people ask if for answers not cover ups.

"compelling"

"great video"

I watched The Obama Deception, and it's compelling only for someone who lacks sufficient intellectual acumen perform even a cursory critical analysis.

Let's see who Eric used as his mouthpieces: rap artists KRS One, and Professor Griff, comedian Joe Rogan, former professional wrestler Jesse Ventura, and several of Eric's cohorts with his conspiratorial mindset (Webster Tarpley, Gerard Celente, and George Humphrey). The main antagonist (the film maker Eric), is a real hoot. He complained that his car was being followed – and the guy was simply driving to a restaurant. He complained that a fire alarm at his hotel was a conspiracy to remove him from his room. During the video, a person's photo appeared, and the video indicated that the person is the "Director of National Security. Unfortunately, the voiceover identifies the gentleman as the "Director of National Intellgence". It's not the same thing. Throughout, the Bilderberg Group, has been identified as a "secret" group. The video identified many members of the Group, and the Group publicizes where it's going to hold its meetings. It's not so much a "secret" group, rather a "I can't keep a secret" group.

The video shows an article in the November 3, 2008 issue of "Newsweek", written by Jeffrey Garton, entitled "We Need A Bank of The World". The narrator mentioned several times that the "bank of the world" was promulgated by Obama.

The video claimed that an Obama program will have mandatory conscription of all 18-24 year old citizens, and have them perform months of service. That's an absolute hoax...yet some TVers buy into that.

Eric used a purported quote of Thomas Jefferson (in a letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin, in 1802) – in part: "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on their continent their fathers conquered…" The quotation is a hoax, as is the rest of Eric's video. He's a Michael Moore wannabe but, with the offbeat unintentional humor, he's closer to Dudley Moore.

Since when was Gerald Celente a conspiracy theorist. He is a trend forcaster and a good one, if not the best. And re. your statement that Obamas plan for a mandatory civil defence force - is a complete hoax, then I suggest that anyone reading this simply google 'Obamas mandatory conscription' and whilst your at it google 'Gerald Celente'.

Your views - see below - on a previous post are a complete 180 turn around - Alex Jones, prison Planet .Com, is the main sponser of the Obama deception.

Your post:

I think that a writer associated with "prisonplanet.com" is likely to provide a fair and balanced view of any "secret society".

Yesi think your a little confused "eric" as you call him is infact "alex jones" who runs prisonplanet.com

"Why the hel_l would the supposed terrorist pilot fly a a massive plane 3 feet off the ground "

He didn't. The plane hit the ground, and rebounded into the Pentagon.

I love the conspiracy folks who claim that the "mainstream media" ignored various stories, and that only the internet provides the true. Most of us are intelligent to know that, if a story is only on the internet, it's not true.

Actually your wrong. Anyway were did the wings go. fold up jusr before inpact??

Cmon mate do some research! doh

Yes I will not tell, you would not believe me.

I made many predictions and still people do not pay attention or believe me.

They forget what has been told by me in the past.

Not all of us alex but 98% of members are sheeple. I believed u.

Dont worry to much mate you'll be called a prophet soon (however prophets never exist its just people that know about secret future planned events)

Bilderberg Group orders destruction of US Dollar?

A new Kremlin report on the shadowy Bilderberg Group, who this past week held their annual meeting in Greece, states that the West’s financial, political and corporate elite emerged from their conclave after coming to an agreement that in order to continue their drive towards a New World Order dominated by the Western Powers, the US Dollar has to be “totally” destroyed.

Even worse, a new US report on these secret Bilderberg meetings states: “Investigative journalist Daniel Estulin, whose information from inside Bilderberg has routinely proven accurate, states that the global elite’s plan to completely destroy the economy and ultimately lower global population by two thirds has stoked fears even within Bilderberg itself that the fallout from such chaos could ultimately result in the globalists losing their control over the world.”

Prior to the Bilderberg Meeting, the Kremlin report continues, most of the West’s wealthiest elite convened at an unprecedented secret meeting in New York called for and led by the staunch New World Orderlist David Rockefeller to plot the demise of the US Dollar and which, strangely, was reported in the US mainstream propaganda media, but to which the dissident American website PrisonPlanet.Com questioned by stating:

“ABC News today devoted a prominently featured three page story to a “secret meeting” of rich philanthropists which took place earlier this month in New York, and yet one of the biggest news corporations in America was completely silent during a far more important meeting of around 150 of the world’s powerbrokers at the Bilderberg conference last week.”

To the ‘ultimate’ outcome of the plans of the West’s elite classes, connived under the auspicious of the Nazi backed Bilderberg Group, Russian Intelligence Analysts predict that their fears of “losing control” due to the catastrophic chaos they are embroiling our World in are, indeed, valid, especially since the unleashing upon our Earth’s population the bioengineered H1N1 Swine Flu variant that is continuing its unrelenting march of death and illness across our entire Earth, and when coupled with the total collapse of the Global economic system can only lead to Total War.

Russian President Medvedev has joined calls by China, Brazil, and other Nations, to prepare for the collapse of the US Dollar and has put forth the Russian Ruble as one of a number of International Reserve Currencies to replace the soon to collapse American currency, and as warned about by the St. Petersburg Times News Service:

“Last week, despite the apparent appeal of the dollar in the midst of this global crisis, the U.S. bond market — often a harbinger of future trends — suddenly panicked, and the prices of U.S. Treasury bonds plummeted with 10-year yields jumping to over 3.3 percent. This could be ominous for the future of the dollar.”

Even worse for these American people is how horrific their immediate economic future is going to be, and as best articulated by Gary Dorsch, the editor of Global Money Trends, who writes: “No one is asking who will purchase the $1-trillion of US Treasuries to be offered to the market by September. Once that colossal amount of paper is bought, who will purchase another $5-trillion of Treasury paper over the next four-years, as the US-government plunges deeper into insolvency. The Federal Reserve would be forced to print (monetize) vast quantities of US-dollars to pay the principal and interest on the national debt that is not covered by tax revenue.”

Bloomberg News Service is further reporting today that the concerns of the US Federal Reserve Bank are also growing, and as we can read, “Policy makers, meeting April 28-29 in Washington, saw “significant downside risks” to the outlook for the economy, with the global financial system still “vulnerable to further shocks,” minutes of the session released yesterday said.”

With the US now reporting another record being set in the number of their citizens out of work and claiming unemployment benefits, the true number of American jobless has reached a staggering 15.8% of their workforce with no relief in sight and many Russian analysts predicting a summer of violence due to massive discord among these beleaguered people as once their relief payments run out there exists no more money to pay them.

It is important to note that Great Britain is preceding the US into bankruptcy and is reported close to losing its AAA Credit Rating as it suffers its worst economic crisis since World War II, with the Financial Post issuing a further warning to the Americans, and as we can read:

“The U.S. dollar's day of reckoning may be inching closer as its status as a safe-haven currency fades with every uptick in stocks and commodities and its potential risks - debt and inflation - are brought under a harsher spotlight. Ashraf Laidi, chief market strategist at CMC Markets, said Wednesday a "serious case of dollar damage" was underway. "We long warned about the day of reckoning for the dollar emerging at the next economic recovery," Mr. Laidi said in a note.”

After the deliberate collapsing of the US Dollar, these reports continue, the Bilderberg ‘plan’ for the Global economy rests on what are called Special Drawing Rights issued by the Western controlled International Monetary Fund, and which the Telegraph News Service succinctly warns:

“The International Monetary Fund is poised to embark on what analysts have described as "global quantitative easing" by printing billions of dollars worth of a global "super-currency" in an unprecedented new effort to address the economic crisis.”

Russian economists warn that this IMF attempt to destroy the value of Eastern European, Asian and Middle Eastern economies is ‘doomed to failure’, and now being reported that oil rich Saudi Arabia has now joined Russia, China and Brazil by refusing to lend to this travesty of a bank backed by the West and intent upon massive destruction to obtain their goals.

The American people continue to remain, for the most part, blissfully unaware of catastrophe looming before them and continue to believe the litany of Orwellian lies being poured upon them by their propaganda media organs, never once raising any objection to trillions of dollars that have been stolen from them and which continues to flow the pockets of their political and corporate overlords intent upon destroying, forever, their once great Nation and which the US Federal Reserve Inspector General Elizabeth Coleman stated brazenly before the US Congress that she has “no idea” where $9 Trillion of US taxpayer has gone, or who got it.

But, to the worst actions being done by these witless Americans is their continuing to pay into their bankrupt banks their hard-earned monies which within the next year will cease to have any value whatsoever instead of using what little time they have left to prepare for the many catastrophes to come. And, what makes this especially appalling is that these Americans are continuing to pay their debts so that they can remain good credit risks, while at the same time their banks are bankrupt, their government broke and their way of life changed forever.

One wonders if these people have truly lost the instinct to survive or, before all is said and done, they will explode with righteous anger over the destruction of their homes, families and Nation as a whole

'Condemnation without investigation is the ultimate form of ignorance' - Albert Einstein

The only sobering thought to take away from this debate is the fact that the likes of Naam and Socal are despised by those they seek to represent

You really should take a lesson in english or reading, at least where I am concerned.

I for one do not seek to represent a bunch of elitists, and while I doubt they despise me, they probably view me as entirely insignificant.

I just do not think that it is a sinister group, with some grand plan.

Should Bill Gates and Warren Buffet not be allowed to meet? Are they evil people? Do they have some grand scheme for controlling the world? Should they have to publish minutes from their meeting. My answer to all of the above is no.

That said, do I believe they share views? Do I believe they discuss what they think might be good for the economy, the US, or the world? Do they prehaps share their views with other people of power? Do these views bring about change, even without some grand plan to make it so? My answer to all of the above is yes.

So, forgive me for looking at things rationaly, rather than being a paranoid <deleted>.

You have so many questions soooooooooooooo why dont you research for yourself, Its the least you owe yourself.