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  1. I think the western model is to deny pension until 75 expect them to work till they drop, that is if anyone is going to employ the oldies.

    It is because the Western governments do not have the money to pay back what they have borrowed to use over the past few decades.

    But then, aren't this what democracy is about? Getting scr*wed by governments for the people.

  2. People should remember that Thailand was on the edge of civil war when the coup took place. Those people who ordered the terrorist attacks against civilians and the people ready to carry them out are all waiting until they think they can do it again without getting caught. Even worse, the state police had been filled with cronies answering to the one big boss and did nothing to stop it happening. In fact, they aided it in some cases. All of this is because one person knows his chance of amnesty is zero if he doesn't have his lackeys in power.

    Maybe Prayuth should have waited until a few hundred more Thais had been murdered - maybe even waited for a massacre - and the country was facing economic ruin before launching the coup. Maybe then some of these armchair critics would appreciate the gravity of the situation which was facing the country and why Prayuth thinks these rules are needed.

    The ills of the country are well known, and it is a power struggle for which the average Thai is going to suffer.

    John, when will the need for constant justifications for the coup come to an end ? What is the justification for giving a man god like powers ? How is he going to stay impartial, not giving into Thai elitist institutions ?

    As I see it, no Thais are suffering for it now. OK - some feel like their spoils of victory have been stolen but that's about it.

    I have said many times the Junta is a bad choice from worse options. Prayuth will not be able to withstand the pressure to hold elections after the reforms are complete and I am quite sure he will not try to anyway.

    My point is that picking faults now is far too late. It is easy to criticise from an armchair after the event but Pheu-Thai showed quite clearly they did not give a damn what anybody thought : they were going to follow through whatever Mr T said no matter what. 2010 was a lesson in how far he is prepared to go and Prayuth knows how far that is (what a shame the press did not make a big point of it - but they are subject to the same pressures as his cronies in Parliament). Thailand has to suffer this brief period where the 'elite' are back in partial control but it is quite certain they will get their election soon and all of this will be consigned to history.

    No Thais are suffering, excluding those called in for attitude adjustment for exercising freedom of speech. And university students who are having their education curtailed, by forbidding things such as seminars on democracy, because it might result in free thinking and awkward questions. Also children being taught a censored version of history and required to memorize the twelve "obey" values. I assume the people in the press who want to publish the uncensored truth are also suffering. Of course the economy is suffering, and with it lots of people.

    What worries me most is that the future of Thailand is suffering.

    Thai students would be better off learning skill and gaining knowledge needed by industries crying about lack of skilled workers.

    Their time spend on democracy is like the Muslims studying religion and nothing else.

    But then, it is easier to the brain to scream and shout at rallies then to sit in the library with stacks of books.

  3. People should remember that Thailand was on the edge of civil war when the coup took place. Those people who ordered the terrorist attacks against civilians and the people ready to carry them out are all waiting until they think they can do it again without getting caught. Even worse, the state police had been filled with cronies answering to the one big boss and did nothing to stop it happening. In fact, they aided it in some cases. All of this is because one person knows his chance of amnesty is zero if he doesn't have his lackeys in power.

    Maybe Prayuth should have waited until a few hundred more Thais had been murdered - maybe even waited for a massacre - and the country was facing economic ruin before launching the coup. Maybe then some of these armchair critics would appreciate the gravity of the situation which was facing the country and why Prayuth thinks these rules are needed.

    More civil war BS. The protests in Bangkok continued because the military allowed them to. There were many steps far short of a coup that would have brought peace to Bangkok, starting with the military making it clear that they wanted the protests to end and peaceful elections, and would work with the government to achieve this. Suthep's protests, already struggling, would have ended quickly.

    However helping the government maintain peace and hold elections would have resulted in an elected government, which wasn't what the military wanted.

    The military had more intelligence. Why would they help a govt who is secretly arming their own milita?

    But I am sure those who blindly promote 'democracy' think this is a normal process of democracy like in their own countries.

  4. Can Thailand be called a democratic country before the coup? What value had that gave to the lives of Thais?

    State coffer being robbed, lives under armed threat, police inactions or used politically against oppositions, corruption rampant?

    State coffer being robbed, lives under armed threat, police inactions or used politically against oppositions, corruption rampant? What have all these got to do with democracy ???? By the way, you sure all that you described are not happening now? I also treasure the value of freedom of speech and expression before the coup. That's a hell of a lot of values that have been lost with the coup. You don't see?
    I see and value the realities on the ground. Not all the hot air coming out of mouths.
    Mighty glad that you see the realities on the ground like the disproportionate wealth of the generals, increase 2016 defence budget which will include 2-3 submarines when our economy suffer, detention without trial and absolute power overriding legislative, judiciary and executive jurisdiction. That's not hot air but realities which you dont see or in denial.

    Seen all this happened back in the 70s, in Singapore. Poor Singaporeans...

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  5. Can Thailand be called a democratic country before the coup? What value had that gave to the lives of Thais?

    State coffer being robbed, lives under armed threat, police inactions or used politically against oppositions, corruption rampant?

    State coffer being robbed, lives under armed threat, police inactions or used politically against oppositions, corruption rampant? What have all these got to do with democracy ???? By the way, you sure all that you described are not happening now? I also treasure the value of freedom of speech and expression before the coup. That's a hell of a lot of values that have been lost with the coup. You don't see?

    I see and value the realities on the ground. Not all the hot air coming out of mouths.

  6. An election campaign promise that she HAD TO honour ?

    Politicians around the world will be shaking their heads and muttering under their breath " thank God that won't catch on here. "

    She also promised one tablet per child, that didn't took off; she also promised a flat 20 Baht fare for BTS and MRT, that was forgotten about 5 seconds after the poll results came in, she also promised no more flooding and see how well that went...

    Off the top of my head, that's three election promises that didn't happen.

    Besides that, I don't remember the promise of setting up fake G2G deals so that connected companies could siphon off money from the rice scheme as being part of the electoral platform, maybe it was in very small print, written on the edge of the pamphlet.

    Interesting the "had to honour" part.

    Excuses this is in Thai only, but it is a "to be honoured" Pheu Thai election promise.

    2011 Election Campaign PT NoMoreFloodingOrDroughts.jpg

    That's "no more flooding, no more droughts"

    They have a leader who thinks he is God?

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    Who said Thai people don't have a sense of humor.......................!!

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    Agree, but on a more serious note it again highlights the overall lack of accountability of officials, who are paid from the common wealth of all Thai people, and it highlights their total inability to:

    - Plan regular maintenance.

    - Have monitoring systems & processes in place whereby broken equipment is quickly noticed and / or there is public monitoring with some simple reward*. (also, it would very probably be true that local officials (whatever level) pass this area every day, but nothing reported - in other words thy have no commitment to their job and / or they are just stupid and should not be in such positions in the first place - possibly nepotism / buy the job systems in place.)

    - Ensure very quick response 24/7 when failed equipment is reported.

    *Side note: In some cities in Australia there used to be a system whereby anybody who reported broken equipment (all equipment: traffic lights, street lights has a clearly marked individual code number) was promptly rewarded by receiving five expensive lottery tickets, and the system worked . Not sure if that system is still in place.

    Don't try doing this in Thailand. You would end up with lots of vandalism and reporting, to get free lottery tickets.

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  8. just face this : USA cancer threatment (radiation, chemo) , gives / creates more CANCER than patients with CANCER

    thanks to GMO (monsanto) that makes cancer crops and lobbied to get it approved by frudulent FDA practices, do not want their frankenmonster food to be labeled as GMO

    sugar which is now laced in every food (eating 140 pounds per year of that chemical drugs), is a big source of people getting fat, diabetes & CANCER

    there are some great local thai herbs (maybe from india) like curcumin, which fights cancer growth cells & others

    bitter melon, that helps the pancreas not to spike insulin (making you fat) & prediabete

    3rd world countries, who adopt the Western life style garbage food (coco cola, mc death, kfc) ... see their population getting fatter by the year

    but think about this : this is what the governement wants & help promote : FAT people don't go demonstrate against the governement

    just look at the arab countries... did you see any FATTY demonstrating against the fascist regimes ???

    I think a fair few folk would be shocked at just how much sugar goes into today's Thai cuisine. Sure, you can opt to cook it healthily yourself and eat brown instead of white rice, but if you eat out you are ingesting a fair amount of crap.

    Whitey is not to blame for all the world's ills...

    "folk would be shocked at just how much sugar goes into today's Thai cuisine"

    But the sugar in the Thai cuisine would have existed for decades.

    But the french fries, Burgers & the Pizza came today.

    Were there many obese Thais in the past?

    Generally they had a small build, didn't they?

    (This is very common in Asia now, Obesity & diabetes, even juvenile obesity)

    Obesity of Thais (in rural areas) in the past were limited to those past middle age due to eating mainly sticky rice and reduce activities in the fields due to age.

    Sticky rice has high sugar content and is the main cause of diabetes in the rural areas.

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    Good initiative......hope they carry it on.

    Just a small request from me please;

    Can you ask the female toilet attendants not to come and watch me when I'm urinating?

    I know....I'm asking for a lot.........but may be one day...................

    Had to chuckle when I read your post. Happens to me more often than I care to think about and usually "on the road" stopping off at a PTT for a bio break. How many times I've seriously considered turning for the shock value of it!

    Better not! You may be the one who gets the shock, from a ladyboy cleaner...?

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