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You know I was 21 before I lost my virginity, I guess with me I have been very isolated and protected from the world all through out high school and university I never had girlfriend or many friends. The doctors said i was suffering from social phobia and it is a terrible condition where you get panic attacks from the thought of meeting new people or socializing. It was so upsetting to have no friends and to turn your friends away for no reason. All I ever really cared about was money business stocks and property.. After discussing stuff with a doctor I got a referral and got some help and being on lexapro it was amazing it was like Im a new person. I immediately went on a holiday to Europe for two months it was great but still the people there were ok I guess I got out of my comfort zone. Then on my way back I had a stop over to a place called Bangkok I was only supposed to be there for 2 days ended up staying 4 months. Its funny my first place I was told to stay was Koh San road. I have never seen so many people in my life. I rember being in a new world. It was funny as I try to find a hotel one girl approached me wanting my number. I said wat for ? That night i went out people looked at me literally stared like I was a movie star it was nothing like I have ever experienced in my life.

At this point I was so naive and probably needed all the advice from this channel had to offer. When I visited my first go go, I thought I was in heaven everything about thailand was so much better. I found ko san road and the surrounding areas so interesting I think I stayed there for a month at least. As time when on I met a girl name Rujiricha she was my first girlfriend we spent three months together, We did the things that couples do go out to eat, fight, shop talk about the future even go to some nice islands.

Hahha I even moved in. She lived in Bangkok. But I had to leave and go back to AUS. When I was with her she never asked for a dime. Yeah I would buy her food and so on. But when I got back home she demanded a regular income. With me I felt betrayed but looking back she only wanted 10 000 baht a month. But I am careful with my money and didn’t part with it. She slowly ended things with me. I would see her a few times when I use to visit but she would first want me to go shopping with her and pay for her car which she drives. I immediately didn’t pay then she called me stingy and cheap Charlie and it hurt my feelings. I still ring her time to time but she never answers my calls. I wonder If I was mean not giving her the money, I always feel a soft spot for her, I know if I come back to Thailand I can get her back but at what cost.

wat does OP mean ? No smart ask comments please I just want to know

there is nothing really trollish in the OP's posting which can be argued as none of the parties can present any evidence. what doesn't match is

quote: "I can afford to live off 100 000 baht a month... little business... maybe a coffee shop...

and the investment performance he claims.

My god wat is with you guys. Ok ill put up and then shut up I have nothing to lie about. I said I dont want to be bored shitless in pattaya so buying a little business will keep me active. I said I would keep my investments in Aus. Now you will probably say this isnt my waterfront unit it;s my sisters ? Wat ever and here is my total share portfolio but its probably fake ? If you have a comsec account it cannot be fakes it the real deal.... wAt else. Sorry old fellas im the real deal. I'm a self made Millionaire Now its all about versace You copied my style Five shots couldn't drop me I took it and smiled Now I'm back to set the record straight With my A-K I'm still the thug that you love to hate

Remember guys, this is the internet - The OP can be what he wants to be.

All I know is, when I was 26 years old I had better things on my mind than what 'Old Men' think or get up to (can't say I ever thought about old men) and as for breaking up with girlfriends, it always seemed like a good excuse for a night out with the lads.

26 years old and driven to coming to Thailand to pay for what his girlfriend decided to no longer provide - Sad... and I mean really sad.

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Oh and these claims about making money so easily - - Give us your recommendation for ten investment vehicles that are going to turn a profit in the next 3 moths, 6 months, a year... Your choose.

Put up or shut up!

My own view.... you'll be in trouble when your sister catches you using her computer.

First of all you are right my ex girlfriend really broke my heart bad. It was sooo upsetting. She loved me for me and didn’t know about my assets she new I had money but not to an extent. I took her for granted we were going out for 2 years I got comfortable and didn’t show her I cared. I wasn’t performing and thought she would always be there. She left me for this other old guy that is 30 in AUS with a ten year old kid. He treats her like an angel and I know in my heart she is better off with him because she will be happier and he will treat her better. When I arrived in Pattaya shortly after it got her off my mind but your right you cannot compare unconditional love to ST or LT. But because I screwed up with her I have to accept my chances aren’t that great anymore in AUS. Look I shouldn’t get angry at your advice, life is about learning and change. When I come to pattaya or Bangkok I will no hardly anything. Just like starting a new job I can probably pretend I will know allot but in the end It will take me years to learn the language, the history, customs and how a business runs. So I guess what my uncle say with me all the time is patience. But even you old fellas have to understand you don’t know all the answers but after reading this forum for years I have learnt a lot from you guys.

Ok well in regards to you wanting my advice “Give us your recommendation for ten investment vehicles that are going to turn a profit in the next 3 moths, 6 months, a year... Your choose.” With me Im an astute investor that has got it right to escape this nightmare or financial crisis. I was able to buy shares and sell them at the right time to buy a commercial property in 2002 then I managed to buy shares again and sell them in may 07 when I bought another property 3 months before the peak because the ASX was so over valued. People were telling me good shares to buy like macquarie bank at $86 I told people I bought it at $22 and I bought 3000 of them so there was no way i am buying back at that price. I bought most of my shares in early and 2003-5 and made alot of money. Then when I switched to property I showed patience watching them go down. But I said enough is enough and took equity from my ASSETS and got back in buying the shares I sold at 60 - 80% lower value. I honestly believe people that have gotten burnt are so scared that dont want to invest are putting there money in cash that money will go into the market one some point. The sun came out after the depression and the sun will come out of the 2008 credit crises. Well this would be my advice having an outlook in the next 3 moths, 6 months, a year is risky in this market I bought with a long term view of 3-5 years but after making good gains I sold because I think we will see a few correction are bound to happen again. I always have a 3-5 year outlook. I feel Australian banks,. They pay 8% yields and will have growth depending on the USA but I think things will come well so. I would not have any cash in thai baht as I bet you when the markets turn around the baht will become a lot weaker I think by 30%. I would see people return to more riskier investments like equitys and so on So I see Gold going down 40% with oil starting to slightly increase. I can go on if you like?

"You have no idea I think you are delusional", yes Im bitter by my aussie girlfriend but she is begging for me back and I wont go there. Normally when people go through a breakup they are bitter. BUT I don’t hate all white women. That is a stupid comment and certainly don’t idolize the vision of a thai woman. When did I say that. You and your friend must have moved to Thailand for what reason now be honest ? You been in Thailand so long you forget what it is like back home that why you left. "HIPOCRIT" Your Just jealous I can have everything I want and you know a young 26 year old found out about this great place and wont have any problems where the ratio is so high.

"You can't stand the competition for female attention back home and can't accept that such a fine 'catch' as yourself is getting left on the shelf". Very true where I live no joke there are a shortage of females so the ratio is impossible and Im new here so I don’t have a big social network so yes is that a problem. I said that from the start. You see im just like you I can have more fun up there than here.

"Money can buy love or friendship" You are just a poor bitter jeolous OLD man. I had lots more fun in pattaya and Bangkok when I was paying for it. It was little money but it was great. Do you have a wife my friend ? I bet your if money ran out so would she. Or she would become very bitter. As a matter of fact is your wife alot younger than you. Ask yourself truly is she really with you cause of love or just because she wants someone to take care of her. Well I bet you if you came to Aus that would be impossible to find. And you ask yourself why ? You know why. ooooooh getting scared of the truth. Ok and didn’t you read my other comment im not investing in Thailand anymore so not going to go broke. I just made 130k on the stockmarket in the last 2 months so your right i prefer the easy route. And no I wont lose it I just sold then. hahahahahahah nobody goes broke taking a profit.....

Seeya around in thailand old man.

If you are a millionaire and 26, congrats, you can do whatever you want. But don't brush aside some of the advice given here. I've been here about 3 years.

Things that are true and old timers will warn you about:

Do NOT think bar girl and romance belong in the same sentence. Would you perfer a hooker in Oz over being alone?

Do NOT start or invest in a business in Thailand. Most ex-pats who have a business work very hard for very little or they

flat out fail. Thais too for that matter.

Vacationing in a place and living in it are two different things. Very different.

Relax. have a long holiday here before commiting to ANYTHING.

ok thankyou

How did this turn from a thread about a guy asking for financial/business advice regarding a move to Thailand into a thread about guys bitching over western women and how good Thai prostitutes are in comparison? - Aren't there alternative websites that cater for the looser end of the market? - This, I though was the business and financial branch of ThaiVisa.

Hey get real mate, the whole of pattaya history is based on the sex tourism so don't give me that shit. Girls and money that's what it is all about, you need the money because us guys want that honey. Now cut the crap. Aren't there alternative websites that cater for the looser end of the market? Oh im a loser mate because i prefer pattaya over Australia. Man I tell you something im 6ft 4 very fit good looking guy. Good family background and genuine and warm heart have never stolen and treat girls with respect. I am university educated and have a professional job. I also a self made millionaire ok. So I don't know the dam reason why im single in Aus but I am. Its Friday night am Im all alone. You see pattaya and Bangkok is the only place i believe on earth where guys like me get respect and never feel lonely. And also Im sick of all these people thinking i ll loose my money. I been reading posts from here for 5 years and with my six sense I can smell a rat. This is my plan which now have changed Keep my assets in AUS all of them, stuff going into business with all these negative vibes. I feel like I will lose my money. I ll tell people im on an extended holiday and have little money and must be careful. Be friendly to other farangs but don't trust them and watch out for the women. Be truthful and tell them what you want. Remember its up too me. I ll now have a great life. The End

you might be no "loser" though I agree that your attitude sucks and this thread would be closed by now should I have anything to say here and it would not even feel rough as by yourself put the necessary in: The End.

TV business section at its best.

Ok MR my attitude sucks, what did I say? All I wanted was some business advice and then I get these types of replies?

Now who’s attitude sucks

sign up a big expensive lease and meet many Thai Hookers. Even though you think you wont get caught, you eventually get stung for 200-300 Thousand (if your lucky) by a Thai girl, you buy a Bar or a cheap hotel for 3-5Million, and that goes belly up after 2 years.....The land of smiles looks very inviting from afar, just look at all the recent events, Thai people are very disturbed..... and have many issues...if you scratch beneath the surface

I'd really would like to hear from you again, say two or three years after arriving here. It would be interesting to see if, at that time, you would be so dismissive of the advice you now so readily ascribe to some idot that has be obviously burnt and had his heart broken.

Not that I expect we shall.... The 'burn rate' is pretty high in Thailand and while guys so often trumpet their arrival, departures tend to be a much more subdued affair.

You have relationship issues. Lonely in Australia? <deleted>? You make friends easily in Thailand? <deleted>? They don't even speak your language and vice versa and you want to come here and start a business?

How did this turn from a thread about a guy asking for financial/business advice regarding a move to Thailand into a thread about guys bitching over western women and how good Thai prostitutes are in comparison? - Aren't there alternative websites that cater for the looser end of the market? - This, I though was the business and financial branch of ThaiVisa.

Hey get real mate, the whole of pattaya history is based on the sex tourism so don’t give me that shit. Girls and money that’s what it is all about, you need the money because us guys want that honey. Now cut the crap. Aren't there alternative websites that cater for the looser end of the market? Oh im a loser mate because i prefer pattaya over Australia. Man I tell you something im 6ft 4 very fit good looking guy. Good family background and genuine and warm heart have never stolen and treat girls with respect. I am university educated and have a professional job. I also a self made millionaire ok. So I don’t know the dam reason why im single in Aus but I am. Its Friday night am Im all alone. You see pattaya and Bangkok is the only place i believe on earth where guys like me get respect and never feel lonely. And also Im sick of all these people thinking i ll loose my money. I been reading posts from here for 5 years and with my six sense I can smell a rat. This is my plan which now have changed Keep my assets in AUS all of them, stuff going into business with all these negative vibes. I feel like I will lose my money. I ll tell people im on an extended holiday and have little money and must be careful. Be friendly to other farangs but don’t trust them and watch out for the women. Be truthful and tell them what you want. Remember its up too me. I ll now have a great life. The End

Boredom is the least of your worries. You have relationship issues. Lonely in Australia? <deleted>? You make friends easily in Thailand? <deleted>? They don't even speak your language and vice versa and you want to come here and start a business?

The advice has been given. You have enough cash to come and RENT your home and friends here in paradise. <deleted> don't spoil it by thinking that you can make a business here... just to ease the boredom that you are savvy enough to acknowledge will happen. Just trying to get a work permit and staying legal with immigration department will crush your dreams to pulp.

Look first of all, i accept all advice but you are wrong I bet I will have no problem living in thailand I will put money on it. Im australin an under 30 and pass all criteria to have a special 1 year visa.

I have all of the above.

Second of all have you lived on the GOLDCOAST or SYDNEY omg I am a tall good looking guy that recently broke up with my girlfriend. I treated her like a princess and she ripped me bad. She found a new guy in no time . I visited pattaya right after and she was out of my head in 3 days. I came back after a month. I go out and I tell you I dont like my odds. There is like 8 guys to 2 girls. These girls think there the "Shit". And there not beautiful like the thai girls there fat and ugly. Mate come to the gold coast and will go for a drink and watch your self esteem go down. When your in Thailand you forget how much attention you get. I don’t understand Im kind hearted and am established I can afford to retire in Thailand next year so why would I bother staying here living the bad life.

In Thailand I cannot even walk down the street without girls asking me for my number and yes it’s the money they want but im young and they say im hansome man its makes me feel good so I dont mind paying for it. its little money and Im happy with the honey I give them the money. Man its amazing and the losers back here in the bar or nightclubs trying to meet a girl forget about it. I take the fast route. That’s why I can afford to retire a 26.I been looking at this site for 6 years ever since I first visited thailand . I know that I can live a great lifestyle on 100k+ per month + More assets will come my way more down the line. I can also buy a little hotel or apartment complex. Its about location location and finding good advisors. And when I get here Im not going to tell the world I have money I will pretend im broke. I know how to make money and I know about real-estate. Yer everyone thinks I will go broke but I wont because I will leave 80% of my assets in AUS. I can afford to buy a 30million baht -40 hotel in a few years. So will see.

Within 24 hours of your arrival in Thailand you will know you've stumbled into Paradise. You'll forget about your past as your heart and soul surge forward. Within a week you won't look back no more.

Lonely in Australia?

From day 1 here you will go into orbit w.r.t. women, beautiful women, soft, aromatic, smoooooth as silk, delicate, with tantalizing voices. Regardless who you're with, even if its just for a night or day, she will take care of you like no ever has before. Disregard the negative comments about hookers - here even the hookers outclass the average non-hooker western woman a trillion to one in terms of humanity, heart and soul. Light years ahead and besides there are hookers in the western world too but the only ones doing biz with them are the ones who've not discovered this paradise yet!

And the icing on the cake? ... even if you end up living with one, if and when its over, she won't take nowhere near half.

Some simple rules:

Rent, don't buy property - not ever, not even if ALL your australian friends are raving about their houses.

Stop advertising your financial wherewithal on this board - the sharks here will be waiting for you at the airport with hair-brained biz schemes and you'll lose it all.

No need to do any business, your stated amounts are more than adequate to live well.

Break the western code at age 26 - retire from life and do absolutely NOTHING! You will enjoy it.

Note: upon your arrival you will be mistaken by westerners living here for a bank, so paste a sign on your forehead saying, "broke to the bone, will work for food"

Thank you very much for your reply, Look I have been to pattaya about six times and never show or tell my wealth to anyone, I just mentioned it on this board because I really do need advice from people like yourself. With me I consider myself to be an astute investor I would leave 70-80% of my assets in Australia and honestly can smell a rat easily. Im lonely in Australia I don’t know why I just seem to make so many friends in Pattaya. And the girls go ape shit when Im there. And yes I KNOW ITS BECAUSE OF themoney but I am careful with the girls and rather pay for ST & LT least I know what im getting and there is no chance in falling in love. And your right they are sweetheart and they do know how to look after you. I wouldn’t mind exploring the possibility of owning a business or eventually buying an apartment complex will see. I don’t want to get bored.

Here is a great idea, come to Pattaya, sign up a big expensive lease and meet many Thai Hookers. Even though you think you wont get caught, you eventually get stung for 200-300 Thousand (if your lucky) by a Thai girl, you buy a Bar or a cheap hotel for 3-5Million, and that goes belly up after 2 years.....The land of smiles looks very inviting from afar, just look at all the recent events, Thai people are very disturbed..... and have many issues...if you scratch beneath the surface.... i would suggest you invest in Australia Real Estate now it has almost bottomed out.... not in Thai Hookers

Can I have real comments please not from some idot that has be obviously burnt and had his heart broken

Hello my name is RAY, im 26 years of age and am looking at moving to BANGKOK/pattaya. I currently live in Australia. I have been to pattaya many times and have fallen in love with the life style. I love eating all the time and going to the gym and walking on the beach and like the friendly ladies at night. I feel i can live a better life there than I do now. I find im am very lonely here in Australia.I don t understand why Im tall and have no physical defromities and am very fit. Like being kept busy. I was wondering if you could provide me with some advice. I am currently am financialy secure and have enough money to rent my unit and live off investments from australia. I have done very well on the stock market recently too

I want to keep my investments in Australia and have income from the investment used to live in pattaya or bangkok. I can afford to live off 100 000 baht a month. I also have enough mony to invest in a business In the next year I want to get into the shallow end of the pool with a little business. I want something that can just break even and keep me occupied for a few hours a day so maybe a coffee shop. In the near future I will come into money and may be buy a hotel or apartment complex or buy a guest house (blue chip only). Can anyone provide me with any advice on people who have done this. please it would be so much appreciated. I am honestly thinking at the end of the year to move up and give it ago Lifes to short to be unhappy. I want to live in the land of the smiles