BNZ

That they were up at the journalist's club having to defend  ".. their work as impartial against relentless criticism .."  is an overt declaration of their bias and professional incompetence. 

There are ethical news outlets available and CNN ( Childrens Network News ) and the BBC have failed that basic mandate. 

Rivers and the rest of the CNN 'performers' have consciously reduced Ted Turner's original vision of international news to 'entertainment lite ' hence Childrens Network News. 

One can't take Rivers et al seriously as none possess the gravity required to deliver serious 'World News'.

That nice looking woman with long dark hair and the grating nasal twang certainly lacks the needed depth to properly deliver my mail ! 

The appalling Richard Quest who 'BARKS ABOUT BUSINESS TRAVEL'  has us in fits of laughter (as we lunge to change the channel ) but he couldn't be successful as a comedian as he lacks wit.  

He just ..oozes a smarmy sleaze. 

 And the BBC's very scary Rachel Harvey has even frightened the local wildlife   ..eek.

Even Hitler wouldn't listen to the BBC now !      

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CRES: Arsonists/terrorists May Face Maximum Penalty of Capital Punishment

                         Burn them at the stake at Rajasaprong

                                They're arsonists. They'll appreciate the irony  

               Crucify them !

                                  At Rajasaprong 

 Dreaming again.

Nobody is ever going to send Thaksin back to a murderous third world right wing dictatorship.

why is he in london now laugh against your silly charge. have lawyer now going to cause big finiance problem for thai elites who have money they steal from poor and buy house in london and europe. watch for this.

surprise me that intellegent falang cannot see this is just for use as propaganda on poor farmers. farmers not believe it because they not buffalo like falangs. 

Ha ha ha ha   terrific  post.

More please

Are all of you commenting completely clueless? You think any of your calls for "justice" etc are ever in a million years going to happen here? "Bring Thaksin to justice!" Man, you guys live in this country for years and yet know NOTHING!

Can't we at least have some hope ? 

 

Funnier still, this government boycotted an election, most probably will get caught out for electoral fraud shortly, are responsible for killing dozens of unarmed protesters and unarmed foriegn reporters, muzzle the media, got into power via a parlimentary deal rather then through elections , and only because the opposition was disqualified for a cooking show. And the most ironic thing of all, is that these people call themselves the DEMOCRATS !

At least the foriegn media for the most part knows that this goverment is full of sh## , pity some of the expats are still clueless though.

 

 

Funnier still, this government boycotted an election, most probably will get caught out for electoral fraud shortly, are responsible for killing dozens of unarmed protesters and unarmed foriegn reporters, muzzle the media, got into power via a parlimentary deal rather then through elections , and only because the opposition was disqualified for a cooking show. And the most ironic thing of all, is that these people call themselves the DEMOCRATS !

At least the foriegn media for the most part knows that this goverment is full of sh## , pity some of the expats are still clueless though.

 

 ............... the government needs to begin firing policemen & members of the military that stood by, ran & dropped their weapons - thus further arming the Reds. Their sympathies are evidently with the Reds and they refused to do their jobs. Mass firings are in order. The military in every country in the world takes an oath when hired to do what their leaders tell them to do - Commander in Chief, whether PM or President. When they refuse to abide by their oath (not doing their job) in the military they are court martialed and drummed out of the military. It was evident that many refused to abide by their oath, refused to take orders, and that is reason enough for them to lose their jobs.

Excellent ..except they're trained to kill and out of a job

..and easy fodder for Mr.T's next act !

I think the reds are basically peacefull, but Abhisit always changes his mind saying I will desolve parliament and organise elections, the putting all this on hold!

How can anyone trust him?

I would get violent too

Abhisit has to resign if he wants peace back in Thailand!

Have you only just been born?

only one real terrorist in thailand... mr. abhisit!!! jail him!!! immediately!!! everything happening as i tyre this is a direct result from his outrageous mismanagment of the whole situation.. send suthep with him, they both deserve a lifetime of buggery!!!

I am guessing you're upcountry???????? 'cause you dont have a CLUE whats going on! the city is under siege.

Close to Rajprasong actually. Its all quiet here now, I was just going out to get some noodles in fact.

I'm going out to get some beer.  

 

Leaders? What leaders? Last I heard the "leaders" of this insurrection fled like cowards and left their brainwashed sheep to fight the battle for them...

"Jatuporn and Arisman Have Fled after Soldiers Reclaim Ratchaprasong

ASTV and several other media are reporting that key red-shirt core leaders including Jatuporn Promphan, Arisman Pongruengrong and Suporn Attawong have fled the Ratchaprasong protest site after soldiers were able to reclaim the Sarasin intersection. "

Yes that seems to be the current info.

It will be amusing to see the Red dupes here on TV explain this ignoble act of cowardice to their own supporters

And being a Canadian myself brings nothing but total embarassment to me and wants to make me vomit ... Oye what a scum and even that word is not strong enough to describe what he is .... Yuk!!! Yuk!!! Yuk!!!

Great Interview right from the first question and answer w/Thaksin Lawyer

Laugh. So one of Thaksin's cronies went into this guy's office with bag of cash. He went online looked at a few wikipedia pages and maybe some bangkokpost and nation articles. Then he gos on BBC. He obviously doesn't have a clue.

I wish I went to law school. Then I could make piles of money representing criminals, and then going on TV and pretending I know what I'm talking about.

The UN statement. That's even funnier. I seem to remember someone saying "The UN is not my father" Seems like he's running to daddy now. I noticed he brushed off the "war on drugs" I wish she would have brought up Tak Bai and Krue Se, but oh well. Even the Ractahdaphisek land deal. There's so many Thaksin scandals, I can't keep up with them all.

I don't really see how any person with a normal thought process can't see Thaksin for what he is. A power hungry man who wants his money and power back, and couldn't give a $hit about anyone in Isaan.

I'd hire the interviewer as my lawyer !

She was sharp, articulate, displayed a keen mind and thought on her feet.

Attributes a lawyer should have.

He was embarrassingly reamed.   

A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.

Winston Churchill

"History will be kind to me for I intend to write it"

Both vibrantly displayed by Winston in his History of World War II An excellent read by an excellent writer who portrayed an unchristian covetousness to fiction ! 

But don't forget this truism "History is Written by the Victors."

But if it's truth you're really seeking, start here and google this...

Archibald Ramsay THE NAMELESS WAR   

An interesting interview with Thaksin's lawyer on Al Jazeera today.

Yeah he is good....a good opportunist....he can smell the money....he is a legend.....in his own mind....the lady interviewing him hung him out to dry.....waste of money there I think Tacki....link is to his bio http://www.borba.rs/eng/content/view/5542/123/

Yes good posting, the excellent interviewer tags him with every question

..and he exposes himself with every evasion. 

I've been on the other end of rockets and they are extremely lethal ! Oh yes sweep that aside for a mere broom handle.

gee, BMZ.

if roman candles and broom handles are "extremely lethal" what might be a highly trained army sniper with a modern large caliber high velocity sniper rifle working in concert with an equally highly trained spotter using high magnification binoculars fitted for night vision or thermal imaging scopes?

c'mon admit it.!

your a troll for amnesty international! arent you???

Mis-representing lethal rockets for roman candles is the cheap propaganda has been repeated ad- nauseum here on TV and is expected from your ilk.

This post alone displays your lack of comprehension and lowbrow melodrama.

Have you no imagination ?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 

It may not be a machine gun or automatic weapons but is certainly appears to be a rifle that the guy is firing randomly under the cover of the fire crackers. If true, then it is clear the army is likely not the ones who pulled the trigger on many reds, reporters or medics ... one also has to wonder who has gained and who has not from reporters and medical workers being shot.

ITS A BROOM HANDLE! and you like bush thought it was a weapon of mass destruction.

you rank amateur!

you and your pathetic bloodthirsty gang who call for the spilling of thai blood have been caught with your pants down spreading falsehoods yet again.

So, JC, now that the evidence is on the table are you finally prepared to admit that its the army who are killing innocents, in addition to Reds?

Yet another who conveniently ignores the rockets being fired for all to see in the first part of the video. EVIDENCE !              

"..Caught with your pants down.. "  

I've been on the other end of rockets and they are extremely lethal !  Oh yes sweep that aside for a mere broom handle.

Pathetic misdirection, fooling the Red dupes ......and yourself  

 

for christ's sake would people please begin reading and understanding? it doesn't matter whether or not anyone 'innocent' has been killed. the thai army is shooting live rounds in areas where there are its own unarmed citizens. this is a massive breach of UN human rights laws.

how the hel_l are people not getting this? it's not complicated.

YOUR comprehension needs a changeup 

YOU are conveniently ignoring that it "..is a massive breach of UN human rights laws. .."

for live grenades and rockets to be used by the Red Shirts ..as proved by numerous videos ..isn't it ?

Piss off

Are you mocking me? Is your Western (I assume) knowledge greater than mine?

This is all a bit new to me.

LOL

No he's not really mocking you..

you're just fresh meat.

Fresh Red meat 

 

If Abhisit stood for election he would lose that is why he's adamant that he won't and has never had any intention of doing so.

The so called peace deal included the proviso that all the Red Shirt Leaders plus others in Phue Thai (including General Chavalit) surrender themselves to the Police to be charged. The charges include Treason and a plot to overthrow the Monarchy. The plot was presented by Abhisit and his proof was hundreds of names connected by squiggly lines on a white board. He has never been able to present anything else to substantiate his accusations.

The Yellow Shirts occupied the airports but they all got bail and in fact are still walking around free today.

The Red Shirts have denounced the charges of treason and plotting to overthrow the monarchy as nonsense. However, they agreed to surrender on condition that they were granted bail to fight the charges in Court. (They and the other people accused of taking part in this dreamed up plot intend to sue Abhisit for criminal libel and lesse majeste). They have been told that they can't be guaranteed bail. Because of the seriousness of the charges (ridiculous as they are) without bail they could all be in gaol for years even before the case went to Court. Would you have agreed to accept Abhisit's peace deal?

It is also interesting as to what will happen to Abhisit after he loses his parliamentary immunity when the Court dissolves the Democrat Party for corruption and money laundering because the prison terms for criminal libel plus lesse majeste could mean that he would be inside for life.

PS you should read the article about the Thahan Phran (Border Rangers) in the Bangkok Post, 25th April 2010, Entitled "The boys in black Thailands dangerous dark influence." (Spectrum). I don't think that the Thahan Phran could be very happy about their idol being assasinated. I wonder who they're going to blame?

"..If Abhisit stood for election he would lose.."

Ha ha ha the Reds have lost so much face that even the upcountry Reds are now quietly shunning them.   

Also remember that during the televised negotiations Abhisit threatened to put house 

dissolution up for a referendum, which the reds did not want..!

Abhisit would win in a landslide !

"...The Red Shirts have denounced the charges of treason and plotting to overthrow the monarchy as nonsense.

...... (They and the other people accused of taking part in this dreamed up plot..." 

The treason is obvious ..and speakers on the stage at Rajasaprong were repeatedly harping on the unmentionable, heard by 'thousands of witnesses' but not reported in the press because it's unmentionable.

It's a solid accusation. YOU are dreaming !

"...the prison terms for criminal libel plus lesse majeste could mean that he would be inside for life."

Ha ha ha ha ha ha how dense are you ?....oops my ass fell off again..!

 You're right; this illegitimate government should be removed immediately!

Ha ha ha ha ha are we back to flogging that overt lie again ? 

Ha ha ha ha ha ooops  ..my ass fell off

My friend , tell me , what do you expect in this forum ?

I'll give you 500 Thai baht to be a rachaprsong at 2.55pm this afternoon

Can someone tell me how much the 55 pages of discussion here have contributed to an actual solution?

errrr

25 pages of bickering insults,

12 pages of historical blame hurling and insults,

12 pages of repeated historical blame hurling and insults,

1 page of mentioning what can't be mentioned

and about 6 pages of relevant unbiased discussion......which is probably too little to reach a conclusion....

 Aha you mentioned it !

Can someone tell me how much the 55 pages of discussion here have contributed to an actual solution?

Was that goal of anyone here?

I see people fighting back and forth for hours and hours. Everyone has an opinion, everyone has a point, nobody is achieving anything, except maybe get a heart attack.

Yeah and if you stick around kitty you'll end up with worms and hairballs

are we to presume that these individuals were just shot by the authorities for being in the wrong place at the wrong time?

So here's the crazy idea! A large group of farang teachers, etc carrying white flags, signs in Thai and English calling for talks instead of violence "Jaw, jaw,jaw not war, war, war" and a buddha image high above them walk into the middle of the area between the troops and the protesters and sit down in the road between them. Sign up below! Imagine

..and the Red Shirts toss a grenade at them and then a Molotov cocktail for good measure for being so naive to think that "They could make a difference" whilst adding to the body count that the Red Shirts will try to blame on the Government

Yeah good idea ..go ahead ajarn.

Please take 'A large group' and don't forget to hold hands and sing Kumbaya

It's a killing ground !

 this is the happiest moment of the day - at least some women, children ( and guys too ) are moved into the temple next to the protest site !!

well done, credit to anyone helping this happens, including the red shirts allow their 'departure' !!

edit : good night folks !

I'm happy that you're happy