Richard4849

What kind of penalties can this Welshman and two Englishmen expect?

The suspects were charged with violating the Computer Crime Act, carrying a penalty of up to five years' imprisonment, and distributing pornographic media.

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Welsh man and four Thai women arrested for online porn ring

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http://www.walesonli.../#ixzz1YAGPUx6h

Done already, he got a fine...5000 bahts

Not held for 90 days pending an 18 month trial? Must be a reporting error...

I understand selling porn is illegal in Thailand, but is filming or webcam streaming of yourself naked or performing sexual acts illegal? And if they aren't selling it in Thailand but are streaming it overseas and receiving payment from that country- not for individual items of pornography, but for the service of performing the acts, is that different?

I mean, it's not selling it within Thailand, or distributing it locally. It's like if making a drug was legal but selling it was illegal, so you make it and sell it somewhere that it IS legal, does that count? Do they have a separate law to cover sales that occur overseas?

Genuinely curious, not defending them, just wanting to understand the laws being used here.

You can be held for 90 days in Thailand without charge and then trials can easily take a further 18 months. If after all that time in the nick, you may be informed that, yes, indeed it was in fact not a crime and you may go. If you have not died of TB, diabetes, lack of medical care, beaten to death in the prison in the meantime.

If the police decide you are guilty here, there is little you can do except try to buy your way out.

The voice of experience? Or yet another barstool know-it-all?

Yes, naturally. He threatened to kill someone in a bar, went to the nearest 7-11 in a barefoot rage and stole some knives, and a few minutes later the person he threatened to kill ended up being stabbed to death by someone fitting his description. All a big, tragic coincidence for Mr. Aldhouse, really. Let's be nice to him!

The sad part is, good lawyers find ways to make the most obvious sound implausible... and vice versa.

I guess that's what they call a "fair" trial: having a highly paid lawyer to lie for you in the hopes of getting you out of whatever fox you've gotten yourself into.

It's not so easy to pay off every police unit that would have jurisdiction over this type of crime. You can't just buddy up with the local cop shop. Some people obviously don't understand how things work.

Producing pornography in Thailand is 100% illegal in Thailand, wherever you sell the product.

On the street.

Even if there was some sort of acid attack, why would it make Thailand look bad? .. But what if a Thai did such an act, why would it make Thailand look bad? Do you feel the need to condemn a whole race when one of its members does something terrible?

when a foreigner, a tourist, gets acid thrown on her face in Bangkok, it does not reflect well on a country, I would think. So yes, in my opinion it would make Thailand look bad.

When did I condemn a whole race? Where did I suggest the culprit is of Thai national? But since you allowed for the possibility he/she may have been Thai (and we dont know if he/she was) , how does it NOT make Thailand look bad!?

Your argument may be that this kind of horrific violence could take place anywhere in the world. Sure! But it happened in Bangkok.

We don't even know there IS a "culprit". We know supposedly that some guy's eyes melted then he went out for a nice dinner.

My adventures in the Thai legal system long predated my naturalization as a Thai citizen.

He threatened to kill someone in a bar

Link please to source please.

Or are you making stuff up again?

Anyway, have a good night.

Bubblegum knows the answer to that...why not ask him?

Yes, naturally. He threatened to kill someone in a bar, went to the nearest 7-11 in a barefoot rage and stole some knives, and a few minutes later the person he threatened to kill ended up being stabbed to death by someone fitting his description. All a big, tragic coincidence for Mr. Aldhouse, really. Let's be nice to him!

See how far a homeless person gets in the ER in Thailand.

All Thai citizens are guaranteed free health care. Have been for a while.

+1

Why would you crave to put something in your body with no nutritional value?

Just go eat a tube of silicone. Same same ..

Because it tastes good...unlike a tube of silicone.

Any more brilliant questions?

The guy's a coward and a troll. He baits and berates ad nauseum if someone doesn't answer one of his questions (or even if they do), then ignores a simple, concise question asked of him.

Well I'm going out in a few minutes, if that's allowed.

As for an answer, I'm afraid I didn't see a question. I'm sure there's lots of information reported on the 'witness' in this thread. Though some reports are that she was asleep and only woke up as 'a man' was leaving through the door. Take a look through the thread perhaps.

Be sure to wear your helmet. Over your tinfoil hat.

And be sure to give us your answers when you return.

^^ There at her interview were you? I have to guess not. Why do you keep on trying to make up 'facts' that are nothing of the sort? (trolling?)

^ Just a bit confused as your lies about me seem to be changing?

The interview was conducted by a Thai person of a Thai person. Can you provide a single good reason why a Thai person would interview another Thai person in English?

No...didn't think so.

^^ Premise? It was a statement a few minutes ago?

Is that your final answer? LOL.

>>You laugh at and ridicule the notion that somebody else could have committed the murder,

When there's an eyewitness, it's kind of difficult to dispute.

The one reported to have slept through the whole thing?

Who also happens to give 'her' quotes in perfect, fluent English at the level of a native speaker? Hmmm.

Amazing Thailand.

If she was interviewed by the press, it would have been in Thai and then translated. That has been explained to you repeatedly, but you keep coming back to it as if the question has never been addressed. Is that the best you can do? You're like a broken record.

It is, seems you got a bit worked up and begun making up lies about other posters.

Tut Tut. I think you need to re-read the forum rules before you're given a little holiday.

Lies? Such as? Have you been backed in to a corner, or is there another reason you refuse to support your premise?

Hehe.

The troll's got a colourful imagination, I'll give her that.

Now any chance of leaving your trolling behind for a bit and return to the actual topic? Or are you too worked up and need to vent?

The topic of whether or not Aldhouse should be extradited? I thought that WAS the topic?

Everything to do with this topic eh.

Hmmmm.

Sorry to bite for your trolling, but think there was an amnesty international report on the torturing RTP a page or two back.

(Note to Richard: Must troll harder)

How rich YOU calling me a troll.

Amnesty International has a report on every country in the world...including the civilized UK (and the US).

Please support your statement that there is no way Aldhouse will get a fair trial in Thailand. Over to you.

I'm sure something happened, whether or not it was an "attack". Sounds like "something" fell on them that was not strong enough to do any major damage, and there is no indication whatsoever that it was intentional.

What's going on here? Are people feeling she is more likely to be doing a hoax because she's an artiste and a bit of a media whore?

Not necessarily a hoax, but she strikes me as a person who might be guilty of "embellishment".

Melting eyes one minute, then out for dinner an hour later?

The paper just quotes her Twitter post!

So send a reporter to Bumrungrad and get a statement. Yes, it should be confirmed more professionally before being the lead story on CNN. OK?

Yeah...obviously.

The couple was so "horrifically" injured, in fact, that they were released immediately and later enjoyed an evening meal out in Soi Nana.

Absolutely nothing to do with this topic so not right to get into it. Treated fairly by the RTP, no, by the judicial system, not really.

Absolutely nothing to do with this topic? Your entire PREMISE in this topic is that the Thai legal system is not up to handling this case -- yet you have never produced a shred of evidence of such...not even a single personal anecdote.

I'd say it has everything to do with the topic.

So what kind of criminal buddy do you hang out with?