allen303

It will be by air.

My wife is in country on her US PP. We are going to Laos on Aug 7 for me an O Visa. My wife is leaving Thailand with me on her US PP. That gets her out of the country and clears her US PP of Thailand.  She is going to enter Laos on her Thai PP and then reenter Thailand on her Thai PP. Oct 29 we are flying back to the US for a few month. In Oct. she going up to the ticket counter to check her bag and shows them her US PP to get her boarding pass to the US. Now, what PP does she use next, once she leaves the ticket counter? Does she show the IO her Thai or US PP next? This is the first time and trying to figure out the exact sequence once she gets her boarding pass and checks her bags.  What happens next, does she show the IO her Thai PP with boarding pass or US PP.  Never paid attention how it worked before. We always traveled on US PP, but not retired here. She need the easy way for a Thai with duel PP to enter and leave. Can someone give the exact sequence of events after check in for boarding pass with US PP?

The IO office in Nonthaburi required us to go to US Embassy and get a Affidavit stating we were married and living as husband and wife at our home address. We had the Kor Ror 22 where we registered our marriage in Thailand 4 years ago. The Cpt. at the IO office said we had to have the affidavit and have it stamped from the Consular of affairs. The IO office also required us to take my letter of income from the US Embassy to the Consular of Affairs and get the stamp from their office confirming the signatures on it.

Going in the morning 24th to give it a shot early.

Just now, ubonjoe said:

You will get your passport back on the same day you do the application for the extension based upon marriage. They do not hold it until the extension is approved. You get a under consideration stamp with a report back date 30 days from the date you apply.

Thanks, that solved that problem. NEVER MIND!!!!!!!!!

 Trip to Laos for O Visa

OK, I had all my papers for my marriage extension ready to turn in to IO in Nonthaburi. My O Visa ends on June 17. Now a wedding came up in Ubon that we need to go to. If I do my extension for marriage I will not get my PP back in time to fly to Ubon on June 22. I know, should do a retirement extension. The embassy in DC wrote married to a Thai on the O Visa so the IO says have to do marriage. All that’s covered at another time on here already.

So, I need a little advice on getting an O Visa in Laos.

What paper work will I need? How long will it take (going 5-7 June)? Can I get the Visa in one day or does it take two? Will this O Visa from Laos do for another 90 days? Will I have a problem at IO coming back into Thailand with back to back O Visas? What type of O Visa do I ask for (do not wish to have a married to a Thai Visa again). Any suggestions for a good hotel and any other useful information will be greatly appreciated. I know some of you have lots of experience.

Thanks 

7 minutes ago, allen303 said:

I wish you were just  messing with me but I think not. Will go to the site now.

Thanks, I got it, I guess my wife and sister-in-law will be making a trip tomorrow. My sister-in-law said something like this had to be certified but I told her no. I just found out that office told her we had to do that when they went and did aTM-30 last week. So you are right they do require it also.

4 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

At that office you will need the signature on it verified by the Department of Consular Affairs on Chaeng Wattana Road.

Info here (click the English version to enlarge it): http://www.consular.go.th/main/th/services/6441/71860-ขั้นตอนการรับรองนิติกรณ์เอกสาร---Legalization-Proc.html

Map:https://goo.gl/maps/NQNMSYDydnQ2

 

I wish you were just  messing with me but I think not. Will go to the site now.

3 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Just a standard non-o visa sticker with a note that it was issued based upon marriage.

As I wrote before that is the only basis you could of gotten one for at the NY consulate.

The problem you have is the office you have to use. They are known to be problematic.

Have you had the consular officer's signature on your income affidavit verified by the Department of Consular Affairs yet. That office is one of the very few that requires it to be done.

Not sure, just had the affidavit notarized at the window with the ladies signature, date and a raised Embassy seal stamp. Do I need more?

Thanks, not planning to work right now. Going back to states 1 Nov for a few months to take care of house and then back.

Hope you can make this picture of OV out. using a cell and wife's computer. Not the best in the world.

5 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

I would say that the small remark is what the problem is. My suggestion for what it is worth would be to get you EBOM and after 11 months apply to change to EBOR.

That small remark is definitely the problem. They keep coming back to that and saying they could not do EBOR, had to be EBOM because of the writing on the OA stating I had a Thai wife.

34 minutes ago, arithai12 said:

OP, can we assume that you had the requisites such as 50y of age and money in the bank for 2 months, or equivalent? If so, then it seems quite possible that the issue escalated to a point where the IO would have had to lose face to grant you what you wanted, and that's not a possibility as you know.

 

I would recommend trying again, using the services of an agent and leaving your wife at home.

Had everything, letter from Embassy and all, I did not make it that far, he stopped as soon as he looked at my OV

9 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

OK, I have just looked at my non-imm "O" visa application and at the bottom of the application it asks the type of visa and the reason for your visit, on my application I have asked for a Non-Imm "O" visa and my reason for the vist is I am married to a Thai National and my visa was approved and issued in Vientianne and the visa does not state "married to a Thai National". So it looks like where ever the op got his visa from has put the reason on the bottom of his visa.

It came from Thai Embassy in Washington DC. Why they put the small remark at the bottom left I have no idea why. We mailed both USPP in same packet to Embassy. She did not send her Thai PP, I guess went off her name on her USPP?

1 minute ago, allen303 said:

You could be right, it might have been another option to not be confrontational. Once he made the decision he was not going to give me an EBOR. I should have bent over and gave the old team shout from collage (Thank you Sir May I have Another One). I elected to argue (confrontational) my point being that I was correct. After standing outside for two hours waiting for them to open. Then only three were at work, 20 minutes later three more eased in for work. Two sat down and started talking on their cell, one finished eating. So I guess another ten minutes goes by before they decide to help someone. I know, this has nothing to do with my situation. After p--- away half a day I decided to approach the subject and say no you are wrong. I pointed out to the IO I was well aware of what I needed for the EBOM, which I am. I even pointed out about them having to come to my house, the female said on no we will not do that, go figure.

So looking at my options, A. pay 15000 and have someone take the same paper work and do it. That would be interesting on ninety day report with same OV and EBOR stamp. B. Road trip to Laos.  C. Suck it up and do the EBOM and give them the pleasure of seeing me do it their way. After weighing all options I will probably bit the bullet and do the EBOM, even though it irritates me to no end.

You are right they probably will remember me, but seeing they went ahead and did my wife’s 1 year because she entered on her USPP. Maybe I will not have a problem. She will use her Thai PP next time!

FYI, I was not the only problem. A Chap from New Zealand and his Thai wife got turned away at the front desk also, they just left, nice fellow. While we were at the IO desk another Chap, I think English was having a go of it with the IO he was talking to, rather load! So must have been one of those morning.

Sorry this was for Russell17au

10 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

By reading his OP again it looks like when he applied for his non-imm "O" visa he has somewhere in his application for his visa that he has stated that he is married to a Thai National and it appears that at the Embassy where he applied for his visa they have put on the bottom of the visa that he is married to a Thai National and I would guess that because of this they are insisting that he get his extension on the basis of marriage. I have looked at my visa's from Vientianne and they do not list anything except that they are either tourist or non-imm "O"

As for not taking your wife or g/f that is a load of rubbish because everytime I have been I have always had someone with me.

The problem is the words on the bottom of his Non-Imm "O" Visa, that he is "married to a Thai National"

You could be right, it might have been another option to not be confrontational. Once he made the decision he was not going to give me an EBOR. I should have bent over and gave the old team shout from collage (Thank you Sir May I have Another One). I elected to argue (confrontational) my point being that I was correct. After standing outside for two hours waiting for them to open. Then only three were at work, 20 minutes later three more eased in for work. Two sat down and started talking on their cell, one finished eating. So I guess another ten minutes goes by before they decide to help someone. I know, this has nothing to do with my situation. After p--- away half a day I decided to approach the subject and say no you are wrong. I pointed out to the IO I was well aware of what I needed for the EBOM, which I am. I even pointed out about them having to come to my house, the female said on no we will not do that, go figure.

So looking at my options, A. pay 15000 and have someone take the same paper work and do it. That would be interesting on ninety day report with same OV and EBOR stamp. B. Road trip to Laos.  C. Suck it up and do the EBOM and give them the pleasure of seeing me do it their way. After weighing all options I will probably bit the bullet and do the EBOM, even though it irritates me to no end.

You are right they probably will remember me, but seeing they went ahead and did my wife’s 1 year because she entered on her USPP. Maybe I will not have a problem. She will use her Thai PP next time!

FYI, I was not the only problem. A Chap from New Zealand and his Thai wife got turned away at the front desk also, they just left, nice fellow. While we were at the IO desk another Chap, I think English was having a go of it with the IO he was talking to, rather load! So must have been one of those morning.

7 minutes ago, Lamkyong said:

why mistake ??

She entered on her USPP, she had already talked to them before. Would not matter if she was there or not. It was what was on my OV that they saw.

25 minutes ago, allane said:

Before you go to Bangkok, you might try the Immigration Call Centre; dial 1178. I have never used it myself. However it has been reported on this forum that they will possibly intercede if you are confronted with a halfwit on the other side of the counter.  If the Call Centre agrees with your position, go back to Nonthaburi Imm., dial them on your mobile phone, and hand the phone to the guy behind the counter.

Called the 1178 #, a waste of time. They can only answer simple questions and can’t talk to the IO office.

2 minutes ago, allane said:

Can you clarify what Immigration office you were in ? A google search of "Bang Rat Patana" turned up nothing relevant.

the Nonthaburi immigration office

I don't guess it would do any good to go to the main IO office in Bangkok and raise the issue?

33 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

They were incorrect unless you applied for your visa at immigration. If it was issued at an embassy or consulate they were wrong since all that is required is a non immigrant visa entry.

I am assuming that was at the Nonthaburi immigration office. The have a history of being difficult.

It is a Non O Visa 90 days from the Thai Embassy in NY. So my only options or a marriage. They even said make a border run and then do it. I pointed out how much easier it was to do a retirement no good.

Extension for retirement No Go

Went to the IO out in the middle of nowhere this morning early. First one in line to get up to the front desk. I told the young IO officer I wished to do an extension based on retirement. Had all my paper work, dressed nice and copies of O V. He looked at my OV and said you have to apply for extension based on marriage. You cannot do retirement because your OV has you married to a Thai. He then showed me something in Thai on the lower left hand corner of my OV. The wife started to talk to him and he showed her the OV had me married to a Thai and could not do a retirement. I said no and stated yes I could. Just using logic I thought it does not matter if I am married to a Thai. After arguing with him for several minutes another IO female came over and looked, said have a seat. Thought I had won my case, wrong. Made it to the same IO male and he preceded to show my wife someone’s extension based on marriage and what she had to do. I stopped them and started again with my argument, asked to see a supervisor. The same young lady came over and said he was right I had to do a marriage extension.

Has anyone ever had this problem before? I was at the Bang Rat Patana IO office in Bangkok.

5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

I cannot open the site.

Since it is from the state of Florida it would be accepted but it has to be signed by a official as per the embassy requirements "Online criminal record without authorizer’s signature is unacceptable".

The only way to get a Criminal Records Check in the state of Fl. is through FDLE in Tallahassee. They have a link on their web page just for that. The Sheriff’s Dept. in the county will no long do it for you (will do Finger Print Card), they refer you to the FDLE web site. I think around $25.00, finger print card and takes about three weeks, all instructions on web site. You will get a certified copy back with Fl. FDLE seal, which will suffice for the Embassy.

Sorry, two whole different subject. The first was about having US/Thai PP. The second subject was about getting a new Thai ID card, two different branches of Thai government.

The wife and I both entered Thailand on March 20 of this year. The lady at the immigration office did the wife’s paper work early instead of making her wait till 30 days out. We don’t go to the main office in Bangkok, unsure which one it is we have to go to. They were very helpful to the wife.

The wife entered Thailand with an O Visa as I did. The wife and sister were checking on the paper work for me being in a yellow book and extension based on retirement, I was not present in the office. The subject came up on what the wife had to do because she was a Thai citizen and she showed the US PP and Thai PP. The lady went ahead and did all her paper work right then for her to stay for one year. The lady then suggested about the discrepancies in the two PP with the middle name. I know, next time as per advice from Ubonjoe, she will enter with her Thai PP.