josephbloggs

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, all of the Japanese, European and US automakers used creative accounting, only the Chinese automakers and the people that worship them can be trusted to provide reliable numbers, 

Who worships Chinese EVs? I know people like the ones that are good, why wouldn't they?

Haven't seen anyone on here raving about the big (ugly) cat, in fact I haven't seen anyone say a good word about it - it is pig ugly and nothing special. Haven't seen anyone raving about Zeekr's offerings as they are frankly a bit odd. We've also criticised BYD's offerings that aren't in Thailand yet - I forgot the name but it looks like it could only be used as a taxi as no one would buy it for personal use.

Atto 3, Seal, Dolphin, the MG range, the Deepals however are all excellent cars and great value so yes, people talk about them. Oh and they are selling well.

Toyota's EVs are an overpriced joke and rightly laughed at.

1 hour ago, transam said:

But you go off on a tangent trying to "belittle", hence my post...

Besides, you are not the be-all and end-all on the subject.....

But come on, if you post a video that claims that a petrol car that's on fire after it smashed into a heavy lorry and a movie clip of an exploding car are Chinese EVs randomly catching fire / exploding saying :"this will make you think twice" then you deserve to be belittled. Watching an obviously and ridiculously fake video makes him think twice about Chinese EVs but he's not capable of thinking twice before posting it, or doing even the slightest bit of research.

Anyone with two brain cells can see they are fake and that the YouTube guy only posts fake anti China stuff now matter how outlandish it may be.

21 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Please provide a synopsis. 

 

And why would anyone post anything they have no opinion on? 

I'l give you one - it is more anti Chinese EV nonsense. Complete drivel. The internet is full of this rubbish.

The guy talks about the terrifying news that Chinese EVs keep randomly catching fire or exploding. Scary huh? The third clip "of an EV randomly catching fire" he shows is a petrol car on fire after it smashed really heavily into the back of a lorry. The fourth clip of a terrifying Chinese EV exploding was in fact not an EV. Nor Chinese. Nor was it real - it was a stunt from a movie. After that I switched off.

All I can say to Photoguy who would now think carefully before buying an EV, please use your brain, do some research, and don't just believe everything a random guy tells you on YouTube. I mean look at his channel and tell me if it is impartial looking. And his "Fields of abandoned Chinese EVs" has been debunked many times. The man is a liar and has a clear agenda.

 

6 hours ago, isaanistical said:

How about all the amateur-forensic "sleuths" give it a rest?

 

I for one have lost a friend, and I'm pretty uninterested in pointless speculation about the details of his demise right now.

I couldn't agree more. I knew Colin well and this news has been a shock to so many, he was a great guy. The people throwing theories around should be ashamed of themselves and should remind themselves that this story is about the demise of a man who lived here for decades doing good things, and it is likely that his friends and family are reading this thread. 

Take your amateur theories elsewhere or at the very least show some respect.

14 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The primary difference being that these guys will be released in a few days, in China they would either be executed, sent to a labor camp, or they would have their organs harvested. Just to subtle difference. 

What complete and utter nonsense. Your brain washing is incredible.

8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Next here...   think bigger picture....

 

What if scenario for you: What IF the whole idea of EV's is to have cleaner cities... then more in the city will be encouraged to have an EV.

More of those people in the inner cities will live in largo condo blocks and areas of high population density.

 

How will charing occur in Condo's when many more people or even most of the occupants have an EV ???

 

 

So...  while I agree, on the individual level its not rocket science, thinking beyond over simplified and dumbed down responses.... the issue is genuine... 

More "what ifs". So allow me to "what if" too. 

What if governments mandated that all new condos need to provide EV charging? What if they also backdated that so existing condos need to add them? Condos also have councils and people pay common fees, so if the people want them they will be installed.

I don't think the whole world will be driving EVs any time soon, but they are continuing to grow in popularity, especially in cities (where most condos are). I imagine in future EV charging will be a selling point of a new condo. You live in Bangkok and a young family in five years' time want to buy one I expect EV charging will be a consideration in where they choose, and I also expect it will be a requirement to have charging stations for any new condo. Do I know this for a fact? No. But I expect it - it's my "what if".

Do you not expect this to change given the EV uptake? You are talking about condos that were built before EV popularity was a thing.

 

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"No new petrol or diesel cars sold from 2030"  -   Ring a bell ???

If you are talking of the UK it is 2035. And see my reply above.  You think they will mandate EVs without mandating charging infrastructure in buildings? I know the Tories are corrupt and useless but surely not that useless. Then again....

1 hour ago, john donson said:

if you live in a condo...how do you charge your car ? lol

If you have no way to charge your car at home then an EV is not for you - it is not rocket science.

Has anyone ever claimed everybody should have an EV no matter what their circumstance? Why do people insist on coming up with ridiculous "what if" scenarios to support their anti EV stance?

If you can't charge one you shouldn't buy one. 

Next!

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

You mean cheap products like BYD with 1.5% margin high value products like GM making 5% and Tesla making 16%? 

Erm, much better quality than GM (absolute junk) or Tesla (slightly better than junk).

You want your products to be more expensive? If BYD can sell millions of products at a price point that is great for the consumer and makes them money you would rather pay more? For what reason? Please explain why consumers getting a better deal is a bad thing.

Oh, and normally you are supposed to post links to back up random facts.

I'd rather not be gouged, but obviously you think differently. BYD are still very healthily profitable so all is good, no? Yellowtail would rather pay more for his goods so multi billion dollar companies can make more money. Yellowtail has more money than sense?

Tesla's glory gouging days are over, thank you BYD. As for GM, they will die a slow natural death.

https://qz.com/chinas-ev-giant-byd-is-slowly-closing-its-profit-gap-wi-1850979109

Profit per vehicle sold:
 

8 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Good for them, but not as good as Ferrari 🚗 🚘 😊 😃. 

 

Jeez, the barrel scraping continues. Let's compare profit per sale of a Rolex vs a Casio. A Gucci handbag vs a M&S handbag. A trip on the Orient Express vs a taxi. 

Why on earth would you expect a low priced, high volume, mass market product to be as profitable as an infinitely more expensive, high value, limited production luxury product?

You really are out of ideas and are beginning to look silly, sorry. I had hopes you were coming around and being more reasonable recently but you've just taken ten steps back with this ridiculous comparison - I have no idea what you are trying to prove. Idiotic comparison and it reflects poorly on you.

37 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

The reasonable EOW is celebrating 🍾 a million wells completed 😊 😃. 

Well done (excuse the pun).  Oil is - for now - still important, and it keeps my cars running.

Doesn't change the reality of EVs being superior vehicles though.

33 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Maybe, maybe not.  I recently had an accident in my wife's Honda HR-V. Nothing major, but a rear ender in traffic. It took six weeks to fix, and when I got it back the radiator was leaking so they took it back for another 10 days.

You have to wait for parts, I didn't go whining to a FB group.

Is 32 days too long? It would definitely be nice to be quicker, but it is a relatively new brand expanding quickly in Thailand. And my legacy brand took longer for less damage than that.

Aren't we really scraping the barrel now with this post finding a single person who thought their repair took too long?? She has some pretty extensive panel damage. Do they keep those body panels sitting around in all colours in warehouses? No. Do Honda? No. Do BMW? No. She also looks to have some not insignificant A pillar damage, not an easy fix.

 

32 days "without fixing a nut"? They order parts, wait for them to arrive then fix everything, just as they did with my HR-V.

It is just nonsense.

Maybe the new more reasonable EOW is no more?

 

 

 

Too late to edit, but for @ExpatOilWorker if you smashed your BMW, bent the wheels, had significant body panel damage and A pillar damage would you have to wait for parts? More than 32 days? How long would your "Performance Motors" stickers take to be reprinted? That is obviously the most important thing, as a BMW is nothing without the stickers....

4 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Looks like BYD has a service problem in Thailand 🇹🇭. 

 

Maybe, maybe not.  I recently had an accident in my wife's Honda HR-V. Nothing major, but a rear ender in traffic. It took six weeks to fix, and when I got it back the radiator was leaking so they took it back for another 10 days.

You have to wait for parts, I didn't go whining to a FB group.

Is 32 days too long? It would definitely be nice to be quicker, but it is a relatively new brand expanding quickly in Thailand. And my legacy brand took longer for less damage than that.

Aren't we really scraping the barrel now with this post finding a single person who thought their repair took too long?? She has some pretty extensive panel damage. Do they keep those body panels sitting around in all colours in warehouses? No. Do Honda? No. Do BMW? No. She also looks to have some not insignificant A pillar damage, not an easy fix.

32 days "without fixing a nut"? They order parts, wait for them to arrive then fix everything, just as they did with my HR-V.

It is just nonsense.

Maybe the new more reasonable EOW is no more?