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  1. There are not any major concerns even if she persists as the tabien baan has nothing to do with ownership. However, with the tabien baan and her id card she could, in her name of course, sign agreements for e.g. telephone and internet, which could lead to inconveniences for you.

    I regret I do not have the answer to your question.

    Thanks for that and, yes, i do know that it doesn't have any major implications about true ownership and sale.

    However, any prospective purchaser will probably want a 'clean' tabien baan, so before I ever get to this stage, I'd like to get her totally out. I think it would raise some questions in the mind of a buyer if they were presented with a nice chanote, but a tabien baan with a stranger on it!

  2. I seem to recall this being discussed earlier, but the search function doesn't come up with anything, so it may b a repeat question..........

    I have a house on 30 yr lease, and my girlfriend is on a blue tabien baan. We've broken up and I now want to get her off my address and onto her new one / parents house book. However she won't play ball and go to the amphur to do it.

    She isn't the freeholder, so there's no ownership issue for her. How can I get her removed if she won't cooperate?

    Must be lots of precedences for this, but can't find any on TV.

    Thanks for the help.

  3. Today, after another whole day sat in the land office, the Chanote is finally transferred into my g/f's sister's name. So, step one is complete. Now she needs to take it to the Amphur to get a number for the house, but before she does that, apparently she needs to take a photo of the house (and the toilet?? blink.gif), and take them to the hospital, so they can give her some kind of approval first!

    This part has me scratching my head as well! There must be a drawer somewhere in the hospital full of photo's of everybody's toilets! :lol:

    Things progress, but in a weird way.

    G/f is not best pleased with the land office, to say the least. She feels this has put the kybosh on our intention to apply for a visit visa for her to come to the UK this summer. We shall see.

    Ha, ha - the old toilet proof! No, it's not a wind-up - the amphur needs proof that a house is in existence, so they choose to prove by asking for ----- a picture of the bog! Don't even ask me why. This is where we live, mate! Amazingly, in a new-build, they'll only give you a house number once the build has reached a certain stage. One of those stages is the completion of a bog / septic tank.

    As for the hospital, I haven't the foggiest why they need to be involved. Is the hospital her employer?

    LO everywhere can be awkward, but the next stage involves a lawyer, so they'll be more accomodating when dealing with one of their own who knows the law.

    Not sure how these events will affect her visa application, though. Presumably, you were hoping do show the Embassy that she had land of her own?

    Now, don't forget to get that contract drawn up for sister to undertake to transfer title to g/f within a certain period. That, in itself, may be useful to put in with your visa application.

  4. In the uk the system is the same. The company can renew, or the broker can renew if he has been powered by the insurer to do so, sorry, don't know the name for that in english.

    In the uk it would even make less sense than here to wait till saturday 11 am to renew a policy expiring 5 hours later.

    Eh???:drunk:

  5. Thanks for the advice there, I'll get that sorted asap

    I definitely think I'll be going in that particular land office with a lawyer in tow when it comes to the usufruct and the transfer of the title to my g/f (who already has what we in England call 'the raging hump' with the aforementioned L.O.G or Land Office Grouch)

    L.O.G has claimed to 'only want to help protect Thai people'...against what exactly? Presumably, evil foreigners who want to buy land and give it to people who otherwise would have none! huh.gif

    Again, just suggesting a more subtle approach. A bit less 'in your face' for those that don't like 'losing it'....................

    I'd suggest keeping clear of the LO. Use the lawyer, get the usufruct prepared and signed, and just let him go and register it on his own. That gives less opportunity for stone-walling by the officials, as they've only one person to deal with - a Thai, and a Thai lawyer at that.

    He won't want to waste him time on a fruitless visit to the LO, so he'll have done his groundwork and phone calls before hand, and will include any 'extras for the LO staff' in his fee. It's very quick to register, and he may even return with the chanote already noted with your name as usufructuary.

    It's probably no big deal if you're there for the transfer or not. Your occupancy is fully secured now (with the usufruct) anyway, so I'd be letting the girls sort it between themselves, and just sit outside in the car with the air-con on!

  6. Spoke to the mrs today, it was the land office official who suggested putting the Chanote in her sister's name! So we shouldn't have any problems with that.

    Seems strange to me, they still know where the money's coming from but, as sister-in-law doesn't have a boyfriend or a husband, this seems to be something that the land office are ok with!

    I do think the 'loss of face' issue has reared it's head in all this. Once she's said 'mai dai' she won't go back on it. but has come up with this 'workaround' blink.gif

    Okay, that's fine as a workaround. Consider a bit of belt and braces here. It'll only cost a few baht, but could save everything.

    1) Employ a lawyer to get a simple contract drawn up whereby the sister undertakes to transfer title to your mrs within, say, 12 months. By getting this written down, if she plays hard-ball for any reason (as yet unknown. if you get my drift) you have some legal redress.

    2) Get your sister to make a will, willing said land to your wife. If she dies in the meantime, it's 'lost' within the whole extended family, and could be a bugger to resolve.

    Just a point on any future usufruct. Get it either from your sister before transfer, or from your girlfriend before she becomes your wife. Getting the usufruct may be a problem you've already come up against, but where 'we' can't bang the table and say "the law is the law - do it", a lawyer can. Even a mai dai land official is usually flexible in the face of a lawyer.

  7. Thanks, that's the second option. If this trip to the embassy doesn't bear fruit, the house will be put into her sister's name then transferred again once I arrive.

    I didn't realise there was less tax on an 'inter-family' transfer! Cool :)

    I would get the Mil to do it, but she's too far away...not a bad thing in the long-term I believe :)

    You say something that I'm not sure about. Don't assume that it's also a low tax for a transfer between sisters. They could view that differently than a mother - daughter transaction. The latter is viewed as passing it between generations, and I'd bet the former would be viewed as a 'business' transaction, charged at the usual tax rates.

    My M-I-L lives 2 days drive away. Still too bloody close for me!! But, by insisting on driving over 2 days, rather than bust a gut in 1 day, it does shave 4 days off a 2-week holiday! Ha, ha.

  8. thank you for your reply. I was not sure as well.. but they sait they are going to make it us compound for expats so that sounds interest me.. but again, seem it's quite distanced and not sure about the title-deed issue.

    "Compound for expats" : That'll take about 15 years to fill up, then. In the meantime, you'll be on your lonesome.

    Nice place for a holiday, but wouldn't live there. Pakchong, for me, falls in the "desperate" category of towns in this country. And, as one other poster suggests, you'll have a hard, hard job to try and sell something there.

  9. I think my situation was similar when we bought our first place over here back in 2003.

    Now, all the following assumes the premise that you're pretty well sure to lose property if you put it in your Thai partner's name and things don't work out. So, using that logic, what's the harm in putting it in another Thai persons name? Read on.........

    1) I was in UK and wife came to buy a place we'd had our eyes on.

    2) She came across the problem of buying something, where i had to sign the usual disclaimer.

    3) option was to send the stuff to me in UK, get it witnessed etc down in London, send it back to thailand. Far too long in terms of time!

    4) So, I suggested that the property be bought in Mother-in-Laws name. Therefore, father-in-law could very easily sign the different disclaimer they want when a married Thai wife wants to purchase land without the name of the Thai husband involved.

    5) Upshot was that freehold was easily and quickly bought in M-I-L's name. I got the usufruct from M-I-L. Then, when next we both returned to thailand, the property was transferred between mother and daughter, with very small tax payable due to it being a 'family' transaction.

    6) End result is wife has title, and I have usufruct.

    Give that 'work-around' some thought. May work in your circumstances.

  10. Have I recently just been unlucky, or is this station having real problems with supplies?

    The last 4 consecutive visits, over a couple of weeks or so, have seen me either turned down for Gasohol 91 or for ordinary 91. One visit in early afternoon, they had nothing at all.

    Today, went to fill the motorbike with 91. None left again. Amazingly, the attendant said Gasohol 91, "ok, no pompem". So, the staff will allow you to fill with Gasohol 91 when 91 is out, even though you shouldn't put that in motorbikes.

    The new PTT on CFWest is a great place now, so Lemon Green are going to suffer unless deliveries are sorted out.

  11. Wife heard on the news today that Thailand is (yet again) talking about blocking download torrents.

    Seem to recall some people having isolated problems with downloads around the country before Christmas.

    Anyone else heard of this news today, got some more news, or even having download problems?

  12. Just been waiting in the car for a friend, near Chao Khun, in Nai Harn.

    Wife and I sat waiting, and saw this 'monk' at the 3-way junction thumbing lifts from cars and bikes. Only ever tried to flag down bikes driven by falangs, so maybe was the same for car drivers if he could see the driver clearly.

    Wife said that, while he'd cut his hair pretty short, it was way too long for a monk. Maybe that's the "Adam's Apple" clue in this - hairstyle!

  13. only reason prices are so bad is people don't look around

    http://www.baanthail...+villas/1001916

    i went to see it, well worth the price. sea view from balcony. Seems like its built on western standard.. good materials and everything straight/done to perfection.

    Also a few months ago i found about 1 rai for 1mil baht IN phuket town

    looks like it was built by a 5 year old out of lego!

    Cheeky git!! My 5 yr old was building stuff like that when he was 3! :lol::lol:

  14. At Surin beach there is only one small area in the middle where the public has access to the beach. Places like the Catch Beach club hold weddings on the beach and order people away if they come too close. The beach is public land!!!! The Government needs to come out and state clearly if the beaches are public land or have all rights been given to the resort owners who built there???

    Thank you - that's my weekend wander sorted out! I'll be there, and will just simply ignore the feckers if they try to stop me walking on the beach.

    It's the only way, my TV friends. Get out and enjoy the beach in numbers - they can't stop it then.

  15. I like the HH/Cha am area

    and I have currently been looking at houses here and checking the web sites for 2 years

    Looking at stuff in Phuket for 2 years, and still no decision??? You're one of these people who continually put off and put off, and sit back. All this time land prices rise, material prices rise, exchange rates move - - all having an impact on your investment and perceived costs / pricing.

    For property, the main three things to look for have always been "L:ocation, location, and location". Despite Phuket's shortcomings, of which there are many, this island continues to offer much more than most parts of Thailand, and prices are commensurate with that popularity. When I start to see huge package tourists flocking to stay in a place like Ban Groot for 2 weeks, then I'll start to believe in both the demise of Phuket and fairies.

    Look, petercallen, face it that you're never going to buy here, and go and join the Hua Hin / Cha-Am forum.

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