kikoman

Just the type of response one would expect from those that realize it is the truth, The price of the rice is being manipulated not by the international rice market but the millers and exporters in Thailand.

If there is such a surplus of rice do as the Indian government does it subsidizes it grains to the tune of $14 billion dollars in 2011-2012, they have given free rice and other grains to 20 million of their poorest citizens and supplies low cost rice to another 65 million citizen that fall below the poverty level at 74 to 86% below procurement levels.

Thailand could do that also the government purchase the rice and give it to the poorest in the country and offer low price rice to all citizens of Thailand, much the same as fuel rich Venezuela sell gas in the country for pennies a gallon.

If anyone should take advantage of low prices it should be the citizens of Thailand not the millers or the exporters!

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His lucky day it was not my child......

You care more about the child's health and happiness than only going to Police like this mother when she did not get the money.

I alway find it amusing that there are those that would believe the story of this liar, who insisted a sleeping child fell on his taser, and there are alway those that seek to defend the defenceless actions of such a liar, but it is a common statement coming from Farangs (Thai's and money)!

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I agree with only one point you made if you repeat a falsehood often enough you would come to believe it.

Rice has been piling up since the 9 december 2013, when the government could no longer sell it, after the Ammart instigated run on the banks, on protesters doing every thing possible to prolong the farmers suffering.

But the EC is the only agency under the constitution that has the final ok on any loans to pay farmers had refused to do so thinking they had the upper hand and Yingluck would step down and no one in the new government would question their actions, Well it did not work out that way!.

When things look the darkest for Yingluck something always happens to make thing right again, Now greed of the Millers and Exporters will come to her rescue and the farmer will be brought back to the conclusion, that "if" Yingluck and the PTP did anything wrong it was done by trying to improve the condition of Thailand's rice farmers.

The cause for right will prevail!

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Don't forget to add Poo and the drunk to the arrest warrants while you're at it. They did order the crackdown that claimed lives also. After all, as PM Poo said, there shouldn't be a double standard.

You make a habit to misrepresent every thing!

It is common knowledge that Yingluck ordered no violence to dislodge the protesters, and the CNN video documents the riot police were unarmed, (No firearms) when they came under grenade and live fire attacks they hide behind their riot shield and the six to eight offices armed with shot gun fired on the protesters in response to the protesters use of deadly force.

The protesters ambushed and fired on the security forces, the security force fired back in self defence, in the Democrats case they ordered the army to clear out the protesters, knowing lives would be lost in the process!

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A person like Issara Somchai is high up the food chain. He's an ex minister and a high ranking member of the Dems. I'm not saying he's clean but people at that level are insulated and would never personally take part in something like this. People like him would order someone killed but would make sure he's miles away when the murder takes place. I personally find the story a little amazing. Why would someone as high up as Issara get his hands dirty and personally take part in the torture and murder of a low level red shirt?

The story was that he interrogated the man rescued from the river , just as the buddha interrogated the police

prior to their beating he was kept a number of days and tortured!

Before being taken to the river and dumped in while bound arms and legs was not expected to live long once here hit the water, people tend to get careless when they believe the man would not live to tell his story in this case he did, He pointed his finger as the boss man.

Mr pure as driven snow, seems to have a mafia type side to him!

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I still don't understand how his PDRC necklace stayed in such a pristine condition after the beating and dunking in the river, and why the hospital wouldn't have cut it off when they cut the rest of his clothes off. Also, why would the PDRC have even put it on him?

I hope the people that did this are caught and dealt with, and I wouldn't put it past the PDRC to have done it, but the whole story of an ex red shirt guard "relaxing" in Lumpini park where a major "yellow" shirt protest had been going on for weeks just doesn't sound right.

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As reported by the police two days ago on a source we are not allowed to quote from, dead victims have been found, decorated with flags, logo cloth or whistles used by the PDRC protesters,

The body of Boontiang Karntu was found with a Thai ribbon on his right wrist and it a PDRC tee shirt, his mother said he did not belong to the PDRC but was a UDD guard.

Seems like this is not an isolated incident, so much for this peace loving protest, those that did these cowardly deeds need to be held accountable, murder is not an acceptable activity by PDRC supporters!

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Sounds like you are spreading rumors there kk?? Against TV rules that is you know

Are you accusing me of lying, since when is spreading rumors, even If I can not quote from the source, that happens to be on the frontpage of the source two days ago, I did get the dead mans name wrong it is Boontiang Kam-in, but the fair use rule allowed by the TV as long as there is not direct quotes, it there for anyone to read.

What will you try next burning books, you all will do to what ever you have to try and keep the PDRC as a peaceful protesters, it is far from it, sometimes what you wrongly perceive as a rumour happen to be the truth, there is a picture of the man rescued from the river and the title is about his beating put the spotlight on the PDRC!

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There are some very real problems of injustice in the country, Funny to call it injustice, when I would call it corruption, for every rich person that buys their sons deferment from military service an injustice is caused to a young Thai that must take that persons place in the service. I consider what the nation address as injustice to be a arm of the inbred corruption that needs to be weeded out of the system in any reform, the protesters are only looking at political corruption and turning their backs on other forms of corruption in the country, but it is good that the media begins to address the real problems in the country, a major step in the right direction.

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One must keep in mind what the topic on the thread is that prices are dropping for rice in Thailand, and it is not because of a decrease in the international price, and the forces of supply and demand, it is internal monopoly on rice middleman that is taking advantage of the Thai Rice farmers.

When it cost more to produce the rice then you can sell it for it is time to look into other crops to grow or to leave farming completely and sell you crop land to developers!

Thailand has lost its ranking on rice exporting that it will never gain again by paying lower prices to the farmer!

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The reason why prices are dropping:-

Thailand has a rice mountain created by the government buying rice at a price that exceeded any achievable price on the international markets. Agricultural products are sold as price takers not price setters.

Before this scheme Thailand had a reputation as a reliable supplier of quality rice that had product for sale in all years. International markets were will to pay premium prices because G2G buyers were interested in food security for their own countries. This scheme had lead to a loss of confidence in Thailand as a supplier and therefor buyers willingness to pay a premium price.

The virtual withdrawal of Thai rice from international markets under this scheme has also encouraged other suppliers to increase their production as the withdraw of a major supplier ensured that the market would support a higher price than would have been possible otherwise.

Adding to the problems is the knowledge in the market that Thailand has a stock pile that it needs to dispose of ASAP. this strengthens that position of buyers in the market for Thai rice and will tend to depress the international and internal price of rice below what it would otherwise be.

If the real goal of this scheme had been to increase the income of rice farmers then there were so many better alternatives - OK they may not have had the same vote buying and skimming opportunities for government and supporters.

Metta

The only area of a little fact I find in your post, about the large sales of rice available from the Thai market, due to the inability of the care taken government to sell rice since December 9, 2013.

The opposition to rice sales by the anti government protesters and the EC refusal to sign off on loan to paid the rice farmers. Also PDRC yesterday protested in front of the Chinese Embassy in an effort to force them to back out of rice sales!

On Oryza.com carried a story about Thai rice exporters spreading rumors of low prices for rice, trying to buy the rice at a low price to sell later on in the year for a hefty profit, And the Thai government warning the Thai rice Exports could be reported to the internation agency , about spreading rumors to manipulate rice pieces.

There is a large amount of rice available for immediate sale , again the figures quoted at 15000 baht per ton is not Factual as no one in the Village received more that 12000 ($372.32) per ton, with the majority of local farmer paid 11,000 baht ($341.30) per ton of rice well below the international market price.

The over supply of rice is caused by the Care taker governments inability to sell rice due to the EC lack of action and PDRC protester, with the monopoly of the rice millers and buyer manipulating rice payments to their advantage.

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One must keep in mind what the topic on the thread is that prices are dropping for rice in Thailand, and it is not because of a decrease in the international price, and the forces of supply and demand, it is internal monopoly on rice middleman that is taking advantage of the Thai Rice farmers.

When it cost more to produce the rice then you can sell it for it is time to look into other crops to grow or to leave farming completely and sell you crop land to developers!

Thailand has lost its ranking on rice exporting that it will never gain again by paying lower prices to the farmer!

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"When it cost more to produce the rice then you can sell it for it is time to look into other crops to grow or to leave farming completely and sell you crop land to developers!"

Well what do you know, a rational statement! Now explain why you support a government that wasted B800+ billion on subsidies and corruption rather than adopt this philosophy.

Kikoman-- easier said than done--re sell--leave farming ???

<deleted>, come on think about it, the family farmer in Issan Him and his Misses and gran and helpers/neighbours. THIS is all they know, generations on the same bit of land.

So you suggest they sell and what ??? open up a 7-11 in the village,??? bleeding crazy remark. leave farming completely ???? you have to be joking.

How on earth will these families live??? and who is going to buy their little bit of land in and amongst other bits of land 400 meters off road. ???

Kikoman this is not a European with a corner plot to spare.

Kikoman, you are also not the sharpest knife in the kitchen to make statements like this, clearly not living amongst rural family farmers.

I happen to be a resident for a decade in a rice farming village outside of Nakhon Sawan, we had twenty one local extended family's growing rice, Three families have quit rice farming and gone into other occupations one will drive a van he brought by selling his land to drive in Chiang Mai, the other went to Bangkok to open a store and sell clothes, did not sell their land, the other has moved to Nakhon Sawan to sell food, there are others waiting to see what happens in the rice market.

My FIL left rice farming a decade ago and make a lot better living as maintenance man of an enclose housing community in Bangkok.

My, must have hit on your insecurity, you have dwelled on that comment in your last couple of post!

Most of your post are hilarious, as I read them to the family, and have a good laugh!

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One needs only look at the PM of Thailand under attack in this male dominated country, as being a puppet for her male brother and not capable of making decision at all, the male directed attacks on her competence as an political office holder has moved Thailand back into the stone age of gender equality!

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Another mystery attack in an empty area with no one hurt and very little damage, but a lot of propaganda value!

As happens so often!

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Clearly she is the best premier the nation has ever had.

Just slightly edging out Thaksin for first place.

Way to go babe.

What an angel.

Keep it up.

Clearly a post that needs professional help. Agreeing is one thing letting your daft out another.

The P.M. is continuing to do her duty. LIKE what ??? refusing to appear on charges, resting in safe areas. If her popularity was so overpowering she should without fear be able to tour freely around. PROBLEM the PTP in governing have made more enemies than friends.

Clearly a case of the pot calling another pot black, realizing you are not the sharpest knife in the Kitchen !!

Yingluck is cut from a different mold than many of the other PMs in Thai history, maybe it is the fact she is a women with different perspective of what is necessary for the country, I have no doubt if the court is impartial in its rulings, that she will be the PM that welcomes the new government into office!

All the yellow supporters that quote a different section of the Thai constitution, lose sight of the fact the the constitution is representative of the Thai democracy and has "no provisions for an un-elected government to take over leadership" of the country,as article 91 clearly states the results of an election, is the law of the land!

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She is a woman, and knows what is necessary for the country----You said this ?? ha ha and you said that I am not the sharpest knife in the kitchen, That's a bit real when you can speak about someone that has ruined the country, because of her lack of general knowledge and experience.---follow the money Kikoman.

You seem to lack the capability to digest what in fact has been posted!

Take off your male only binders and consider your bias attitude towards women in the position of power in a male dominated society, Woman have a proven track record in the international community as able politicians with as much right as a male to occupy a position of power, your 1915 assessment of the capabilities of women is outdated by over a hundred years.

Wake up there is a whole new world out there.

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The case of Abhisit took years to litigate but he was ordered to reinstate the person he wrongly demoted. What is so different here with Yingluck case!

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Good for Yingluck in standing up to the insurrectionist Suthep and his neo-fascist PDRC. The future of democracy in Siam depends on this kind of tenacity.

The alternative is a future of coups, military rule and further oppression of the mass of Siamese people by the elites - taking us back to the pre-1932 situation.

I agree it has not been an easy road for the PM to travel, but she has traveled it well. Thai history will remember her kindly in her valiant stand against the fascist forces of evil trying to crave their own dictatorship out of the Land of Smiles!

Any solution that does not consider all of the wishes of the Thai population, an election, will only cause more decades of turmoil for the country!

Make no mistake.

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Clearly she is the best premier the nation has ever had.

Just slightly edging out Thaksin for first place.

Way to go babe.

What an angel.

Keep it up.

Clearly a post that needs professional help. Agreeing is one thing letting your daft out another.

The P.M. is continuing to do her duty. LIKE what ??? refusing to appear on charges, resting in safe areas. If her popularity was so overpowering she should without fear be able to tour freely around. PROBLEM the PTP in governing have made more enemies than friends.

Clearly a case of the pot calling another pot black, realizing you are not the sharpest knife in the Kitchen !!

Yingluck is cut from a different mold than many of the other PMs in Thai history, maybe it is the fact she is a women with different perspective of what is necessary for the country, I have no doubt if the court is impartial in its rulings, that she will be the PM that welcomes the new government into office!

All the yellow supporters that quote a different section of the Thai constitution, lose sight of the fact the the constitution is representative of the Thai democracy and has "no provisions for an un-elected government to take over leadership" of the country,as article 91 clearly states the results of an election, is the law of the land!

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Thailand has only become what the people have allowed it to become

Only the will of the people can see a better Thailand

Lets just hope that after all this government has done that the Thai people will not want to attend the circus any more and it time to return to work

It is not what the government has done, it is what idiots like this deported Indian has done. As a non citizen he chose to break the law and he now faces the consequences for his actions.

Very deserving, while the care taker government is only doing their job of enforcing the laws of the land.

Not allowing him to live in the country and not observe the law as it applies to all Farangs.

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One must keep in mind what the topic on the thread is that prices are dropping for rice in Thailand, and it is not because of a decrease in the international price, and the forces of supply and demand, it is internal monopoly on rice middleman that is taking advantage of the Thai Rice farmers.

When it cost more to produce the rice then you can sell it for it is time to look into other crops to grow or to leave farming completely and sell you crop land to developers!

Thailand has lost its ranking on rice exporting that it will never gain again by paying lower prices to the farmer!

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Are you aware of the world price for buying rice?

Maybe to many farmers growing rice

Certain parts of India, China, the Horn of Africa and many other African nations, and many South Asian countries all suffer from food shortages.

But you're suggesting people produce less of the staple of all those areas in order to make it more financially viable.

Perhaps there's an alternative way forward.

95% of the worlds rice is consumed in country. Exported rice comes from 4 or 5 countries and is a tiny volume versus the total.

Starving countries are not importing hom Mali at 15000 per tonne

The rice farmers around Nakhon Sawan are not being paid 15,000 baht per ton,The average is 11,000 baht per ton selling to the government rice scheme. so the price you are stating is not factual!

The lower priced edible rice can be sold in the Third world countries, it is less then truthful to say there is to much rice being produced in the world.

Their is no excuse to cut back rice farming production when there is so much hunger in the world!

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The world over it is the farmers who take the risk and get shafted by the bulk selling middle people.

Not under Abhisit's rice mortgage scheme it wasn't!!!!!

Nonsense. If anything it was more prone to millers robbing the ordinary farmers.

Under the previous insurance scheme of of Abhisit , farmers sold to millers and were reimbursed for the difference if the rice was bought below 11,000 baht. With the PTP rice mortgage scheme, farmers will sell rice directly to the government for 15,000 baht.

By all means complain and mock this joke of a policy that is literally ruining the economy, but don`t let your yellow specks convince you the Dem version was corruption free or ideal. The only reason it was slightly more sustainable was because it didnt pay them as much.

Still find this forum amazing in the way so many guys mock a corrupt and inefficient government and crave an equally corrupt and inefficient one to return in its place. The fact they are both useless is beyond their comprehension.

Our families in Central Thailand received 11,000 Baht per ton of rice for last Octobers harvest which is around $340.per ton, a few in the village sold rice at 12,000 baht per ton. Farmers say that the 15000 baht per ton is paid for Jasmine rice which seems to low considering Jasmine high price on the international market.

I have not run across one farmer in our area that has been paid more than 12000 baht per ton for his rice!

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Well, they certainly have the resources. More Generals in the Thai military than the USA. Budget always seem to increase dramatically following a coup. Excellent equipment such as the GT200. Only a few renegades murdering children from time to time..

What renegades murdering childeren ? you mean like the red shirts did at Trat and later at their meeting cheer about this wonderful news ?

Anyway, the army should also be investigated for corruption and just like politicians they should go in jail. You wont hear me protest as any corrupt official goes to jail.

The current government wanted to include 25.000 cases of corruption in the amnesty.. what does that tell you

That is why we need reforms first and not from this government they love corruption like the rice scam and their actions show.

Change the laws and really punish corrupt officials. Start at the top and work your way down. This would be for the best of Thailand. But the reds oppose it as it would strike their leaders as they are corrupt. (yellow could be corrupt too but not now as they are not in power its always those in power). As the reds think they will stay in power they will halt any anti corruption law. Of course their real leader is a master in corruption and it was so obvious that they really had to convict him.

Do you ever understand what you post about, What does your post have to do with the Air Force generals comments, you should make an attempt to stay on the topic of the thread!

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Deputy Governor must have been a Democrat I guess.

She forget she is in Thailand which means if you look wrong at someone they could pop you off.

Now I wonder if her school's licence will be removed or if they find some pieces in the closet such as paying money under the table to get admitted to her school. This is surely not the end of the story and I am sure she is in for the money for her school.

Interesting reasoning which seem to bring us further and further away from the violent reaction of some on an Amply Rich lady having a whistle blown at her.

Some more Interested reasoning that another rich lady's spoiled brat , that the lady she was following, intimidating and blowing the whistle at knew who she belonged to!

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I don't want to see her hurt but I believe 2 months in jail would be an appropriate sentence for her violence and harassment

Why? She isn't the one bombing people.

More to the point why isn't thaksin's ex in gaol? i thought she'd got three years for corruption or something like that.

What does anything about anyones ex wife have to do with being, followed, intimidated and harassed in a public place?

This person needs to be brought up on charges, she has no right to blow whistles at anyone, as no one has a right to intimidate her mother for her stupid actions!. Yet she saw fit to violate another person, as someone thought the same in intimidating her mom! Both were wrong!

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