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4 minutes ago, Guderian said:
Any idea if this would affect airline passengers using the Middle Eastern airlines and transiting to Europe via Muscat, Doha or Dubai?
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UAE issues travel bans to Iran, Thailand over coronavirus fears.
The ministry said in a statement: "In light of the UAE's efforts to monitor and contain the spread of the new coronavirus, COVID-19, and in the interest of general public safety and health, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation has issued a travel ban, calling on all UAE citizens to not travel to Iran and Thailand at present and up until further notice.
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2 minutes ago, Sheryl said:
No Immigration requirement for insurance on any of those alternative approaches at this time.
"at this time' - this is the point. You cannot rely on this. Everything here is changing quickly. You always should be prepared that you cannot stay here anymore. Don't invest here, don't buy any real estate, don't make any private plans here for long term.
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14 minutes ago, SteveK said:
Well that's another billion plus potential tourists who are going to see this on the news and possibly think about not visiting Thailand. Then next month the TAT will release a drive to capture the Indonesian tourist market. Or the Mexican tourist market. Soon there won't be any countries left.
There are so many Indians and Chinese more to come here. The number of tourists from these countries will increase enormous the next 10-15 years. What we see now is just the beginning. Europeans will loose their importance for the Thai tourism market.
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9 minutes ago, Beggar said:Everything gets lost. 6 years ago I was on Boracay the last time. A bad experience. 25 years ago it was a great place for young people with a great easy atmosphere. I stayed there many months and enjoyed every single day. But the last time I was happy when I left.
There is over tourism and commercialization in many places. The world is changing. A lot more people nowadays can afford to travel. Many of them are from lower classes, so there sometimes is a certain lack of education. The environment gets more and more polluted. Many places get internationalized and are looking similar all over the word. Travel to any big city in the world and you will see the same brands and shopping malls.
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10 minutes ago, simtemple said:
The Chinese know that the Thai are habitual thieves and liars. The good news is that they are happy to let everyone know. Great news also for the Philippines Ministries of Immigration and Tourism.
out of the frying pan and into the fire
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It gets more and more stupid on this planet....
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13 minutes ago, Arndt777 said:
I agree! Me and my (German) wife will go the same way. We both have unlimited and worldwide health insurance already. On the one hand the additional health insurance with Pacific Cross is wasted money, but on the other hand it is the admission ticket to a retirement in Thailand...
You should first study your insurance carefully. My German insurance (AXA) don't allow me to have another insurance simultaneously.
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7 minutes ago, lampangguy said:
Okay, I am on an extension of stay, not an extension of visa...but in any case my visa expired in 2016, way way way before October 30 2019....I have not left the country since I came in on that visa in 2016. By the wording on that sign, insurance not required. It seems straightforward...maybe I am missing something.
If you have a visa cat "O-A" you will need an insurance the next time when you will apply for an extension of stay.
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5 minutes ago, JimHuaHin said:
I have no objections to having health insurance in Thailand; but the new requirements seem to make life much more difficult for many of us living peacefully in Thailand.
Yes, it is getting difficult to retire in Thailand. On one side I understand the Thai government because some naive farang come here with insufficient financial preparation. But the new regulation for the health insurance is not well planed. Many farang have already a good insurance but they cannot comply with the new regulations. The easiest way would be if we could make a fix bank deposit to ensure our expenses.
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14 minutes ago, Maestro said:
Yes, this is the fundamental question. Then we know how a particular immigration official (rank and name needed) at a particular immigration office (location needed) interpreted the applicability of the health insurance requirement to extensions of stay at that particular point in time (date and time required, moon phase optional)
This, regrettably, is how complicated and unpredictable the implementation of immigration policies has become.
Perhaps you are right, but what shall we do? We have to live with this and try to make the best out of it. Lamentation does not help us to answer our questions. Only talking with the officers in our immigration offices can help us to know about their rules and interpretations. -
2 minutes ago, jackdd said:
It says เพื่อใช้ชีวิตในบั้นปลาย which means "retirement" in Thai immigration lingo.
Somebody with a "O-A" visa with marriage extension should ask his immigration officer. Then we will know....
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40 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:
Lampangguy says his visa expired in 2016. And it did.
He has been on an extension of stay since then, not an extension of visa.
When you are on an extension of stay you get a re-entry permit to re-enter the country because you no longer have a valid visa.
Nobody in the history of the universe has ever extended a Thai Visa, its impossible. A visa is an entry document that has an expriy date, a Visa generates a "permission to stay" in Thailand, you can extend this permission to stay long after the original visa has expired.
You extend a stay, not a visa.
The visa expires if you don't enter the country before the "enter before" date and if it is a single-entry-visa it expires also when you leave the country. It also expires when you exceed your granted length of stay.
The extension extends the length of stay. The visa is still valid. The extension of stay only extends your right to stay in the country. The extension of stay is not a visa and it also don't allow you to enter the country. If you have a "single-entry-visa" you need a re-entry-permit. Your extension of stay is responsible for the allowed length of stay and the re-entry-permit for the re-entry. The original visa is the base for all following permissions. Without a valid visa you will not get any of them.
This is how I understand a visa.
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8 minutes ago, lampangguy said:
That does seem clear to me...my visa expired in 2016, so not after October 30, 2019...and i have been on extensions of that visa that expired in 2016 ever since. So, insurance not required.
Why are you confusing others?
If your stay was extended then you still have a valid visa. Nothing is expired. If your visa is cat "O-A" then you need an insurance.
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1 minute ago, jacko45k said:
One is simply required to have a Non-Imm Visa permission, it could be a 'B', I know of people whose Extension is based on an original Non-Imm-B. The Extension stamp says 'retirement' on it. I feel your statement above is incorrect.
Everything is possible here :).
I suggest that one of the guys with a "marriage extension" go and ask at his immigration and then report to us.-
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5 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:
I think you would find there are many like myself who came here on an O-A years ago, retire extensions then met a girl got married then switched to marriage extensions. The recent income letter and seasoning changes would have many original O-As switching to marriage extensions.
Then you should ask your immigration officer.
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1 minute ago, Peterw42 said:
Rubbish, I came here on an original OA visa and switched to a marriage extension, 3-4 friends have done the same.
You extend a stay, not a visa.
The visa grants you the stay and the extension extents the stay which the visa grants you.
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1 minute ago, jacko45k said:
But there is no restriction to a person on an O-A permission applying for an Extension based on marriage to a Thai, and whether it needs insurance is very relevant.
A extension of stay is based on the original visa. It is not based on marriage or retirement.
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Normally a visa for marriage is of category "O" and not "O-A". Visa and extension of stay for category "O" don't need insurance.
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2 minutes ago, jacko45k said:
You are claiming an Extension of Permission to Stay based on marriage to a Thai national will require insurance (if the original Permission came from an O-A Visa)... point us to a police order stating that. The requirements for a marriage extension have not changed for many years.
When I went last week to our Jomtien immigration the only criterion for the officer was whether the visa is "O-A" or not. (marriage or retirement is not important). -
1 minute ago, jacko45k said:
Surely only Extensions of Stay based on retirement!
no, based on a visa category "O-A"
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The word "retirement" is not important in relation to the insurance problem.
If the visa is category "O-A" then a insurance is necessary.
That means all new visa "O-A" and all new extensions of stay of existing visas "O-A" needs an health insurance. If you have an existing extension of stay of a category "O-A" visa then you will need an insurance the next time when you will apply for a new extension of stay. -
9 minutes ago, Roy Baht said:
My visa
This visa has the category "O". ==> no insurance necessary
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After reading all I went to our Jomtien Immigration today and asked whether I will need an health insurance or not.
The answer was:
Non-Immigrant Visa, Category "O-A" needs insuranceNon-Immigrant Visa, Category "O" don't need insurance
Hope that helps...
Attached my visa (no need for insurance)
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List of Countries Imposing CV Quarantines or Bans on Travelers from Thailand
in Thailand Travel Forum
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Iraq bans travelers from these 7 countries because of coronavirus fears
From CNN’s Mostafa Salem in Abu Dhabi and Aqeel Najim in Baghdad
The Iraqi government extended a travel ban as fears of a coronavirus outbreak rise, the government said in a statement today.
Travelers from five other new countries were included in the ban, which already included Iran and China. The new countries are:
The government said in a statement: "The committee decided to extend the suspension of the direct or indirect entry of foreign arrivals from China and Iran until further notice, and [also] stop the direct or indirect entry of foreign arrivals from Thailand, South Korea, Japan, Italy and Singapore."