Canadian held in Chiang Mai Brit’s rape case

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

She sufferd from post coital regret!

That's a possibility, of course. And if she was in a blackout drunk, she may not even remember consenting.

Blackout drunk and pass-out drunk are similar, but different. In a blackout, you never lose consciousness, but you don't remember what you did. In a pass-out drunk, you actually lose consciousness. Both have happened to me.

That's why I took the oath over 37 years ago, and sat through so many meetings where others shared their humiliating experiences. Go to enough, and you'll hear hundreds of people talking about stupid things they did that they don't even remember. Back in the day, our friends told on us. Nowadays, we have CCTV everywhere and that interwebs thing.

17 minutes ago, impulse said:

That's a possibility, of course. And if she was in a blackout drunk, she may not even remember consenting.

Blackout drunk and pass-out drunk are similar, but different. In a blackout, you never lose consciousness, but you don't remember what you did. In a pass-out drunk, you actually lose consciousness. Both have happened to me.

That's why I took the oath over 37 years ago, and sat through so many meetings where others shared their humiliating experiences. Go to enough, and you'll hear hundreds of people talking about stupid things they did that they don't even remember. Back in the day, our friends told on us. Nowadays, we have CCTV everywhere and that interwebs thing.

Black out drunk is amazing, its a goal I try to hit every weekend.

Is doable If I drink through Friday night into Sunday morning.

Judging by many peoples replies you seem to think what he did was OK and she was at fault.

Maybe many rapists or potential rapists replying ?

Edited 11 hours ago11 hr by mlkik

6 minutes ago, mlkik said:

Judging by many peoples replies you seem to think what he did was OK and she was at fault.

Maybe many rapists or potential rapists replying ?

There have been a lot of cases reported where women consented, but later claimed that they didn't. That was a common theme during the Me-Too movement, and the Believe All Women movement. Which have both petered out. I wonder why?

If she didn't consent, the guy should be strung up by his 'nads. But let's get the rest of the story first.

7 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Wife beater T-shirt?

Check.

Alcohol not cannabis involved?

Check.

Obviously this means we need to crackdown on medical cannabis. 😄

Has anyone suggested cracking down on medical cannabis?

3 hours ago, Harsh Jones said:

Exactly. Especially when you are surrounded by beautiful Thai women who will give you the best gf experience there is to offer.

But he wanted to "get laid" so he tried to bang his drunk friend instead. Because he wanted to tell his friends when he got home about it. Now he's in a world of trouble.

Well, I remember a prostitute who was paid with counterfeit money after the act; on that basis, she believed she had been raped.

7 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

I kind of fail to se a fairness side for a rapist.

Is he a rapist? I think you are referring to an alleged rapist.

At the risk of " being fair to both parties " let's print his name so whole world can say no smoke without fire"

7 hours ago, gargamon said:

The report literally says he was a friend of the accused.

No it doesn't. It says she met a group of friends and the guy was with them.

"...had met socially with a group of friends, including the suspect..."

That's what she reported and that suggests nothing other than the accused being one of the friends.

5 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Safer to go to a prostitute. They can't accuse you of rape.

I think that might be ever so slightly inaccurate.

4 hours ago, riverhigh said:

"Officers gathered evidence and arranged for her to undergo a medical examination at a hospital before applying to the court for an arrest warrant."

While a medical examination does not directly prove sexual assault has taken place, because medical findings alone cannot establish a legal lack of consent, the fact that she underwent an examination and the police are conducting an investigation leads me to believe there is more to this story. British lady is claiming sexual assault not rape, major difference. No details of what she means by sexual assault and what lead up to that event. Was she leading him on and then decided to turn on the breaks and the train going full speed, so to speak, came off the tracks. Were there drugs or alcohol involved that rendered both "youths" incapable of making rational decisions. Not enough information to conclude what took place.

A 38-year old youth!?

4 hours ago, riverhigh said:

... we need more information to know what exactly happened.

No, "we" do not need more information, You want more information. "We" are not involved in the investigation.

I don't think a sexual assault complainant's name is ever published unless she waives her right to allow publication.

6 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

There's all the usual rush to judgement. Maybe wait for the facts?

Sexual assault has a wide spetrum. It can mean everything from groping, to inability to consent (like unconscious), to rape with simultaneous aggravated violent assault with injury. If the woman was too intoxicated to give consent then it falls into that inability to consent - which is sexual assault and a criminal offense in most places.

However, 'regret sex' happens too sometimes, though rarely, usually involving drugs or alcohol that lowered inhibitions and can sometimes lead to a rape charge once sober. That's why the article says the police will treat both sides fairly in an investigation. They need to figure out exactly what happaned. But the person who laid the charge should always be given the benefit of the doubt during the investigation and treated as a victim unless proved otherwise.

He is charged with rape.

6 hours ago, riverhigh said:

"Officers gathered evidence and arranged for her to undergo a medical examination at a hospital before applying to the court for an arrest warrant."

While a medical examination does not directly prove sexual assault has taken place, because medical findings alone cannot establish a legal lack of consent, the fact that she underwent an examination and the police are conducting an investigation leads me to believe there is more to this story. British lady is claiming sexual assault not rape, major difference. No details of what she means by sexual assault and what lead up to that event. Was she leading him on and then decided to turn on the breaks and the train going full speed, so to speak, came off the tracks. Were there drugs or alcohol involved that rendered both "youths" incapable of making rational decisions. Not enough information to conclude what took place.

Sexual assault is often used on social media because on numerous sites the R word is banned, along with many other words and phrases.

Not a native of Canada.

7 hours ago, mlkik said:

Judging by many peoples replies you seem to think what he did was OK and she was at fault.

Maybe many rapists or potential rapists replying ?

Reads like she was drunk and agreed to the lad(s) to run a train on her.

woke up with buyer remorse.

1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

Reads like she was drunk and agreed to the lad(s) to run a train on her.

woke up with buyer remorse.

What a disgusting thing to say.

2 minutes ago, mlkik said:

What a disgusting thing to say.

Not nearly as disgusting as accusing someone of rape because she got the sads after sobering up.

Edited 3 hours ago3 hr by Ralf001

1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

Not nearly as disgusting as accusing someone of rape because she got the sads after sobering up.

Wow ! Judge and Jury .

5 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

Is he a rapist? I think you are referring to an alleged rapist.

1 minute ago, mlkik said:

Wow ! Judge and Jury .

@mlkik

And yet you gave me a down vote when I posted that he is an alleged rapist, not a rapist.

So are YOU the only judge and jury?

The facts are that a sexual assault has been reported, a suspect has been arrested and after evidence has been collected, the suspect will either be charged or released.

Currently he is neither a rapist, nor is the young lady a liar, because the investigation and any resulting court case have yet to take place.

Edited 3 hours ago3 hr by wensiensheng

15 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

I kind of fail to se a fairness side for a rapist.

I think they mean that they have to prove him guilty using evidence and testimony in a court of law. If they don't dot every i and cross every t he could get off on a technicality, such as flaws in chain of custody. Would you want that?

2 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Reads like she was drunk and agreed to the lad(s) to run a train on her.

woke up with buyer remorse.

And your comment reads like an insensitive ignorant misogynist. I feel sorry for any women in your life.

5 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

Is he a rapist? I think you are referring to an alleged rapist.

8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

You have already considered him guilty, which is why you see no need for fairness.

Some of us believe in due process of the presumption of innocence. That's what fairness means. Rather unfortunate that you assume that the man is guilty despite their beng no evidence given that he was.

Two above, let´s see what the rape kit says. Hopefully they have one.

2 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Reads like she was drunk and agreed to the lad(s) to run a train on her.

woke up with buyer remorse.

Where does it read like that? Raffe! Have to quit your porn looking.

1 minute ago, Gottfrid said:

Two above, let´s see what the rape kit says. Hopefully they have one.

You must not have very much experience with the opposite sex.

People agree to things when drunk that they might not agree to when sober. And that is the crux of it. And if both the male and female are equally drunk, it is far more nuanced than you are making it out to be. The male could easily have the same regret and wishes he pushed her away. But he didn't because he was drunk.

But again, that goes back to my first point.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Harsh Jones

6 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

let´s see what the rape kit says. Hopefully they have one.

I don't think you can call it a 'rape kit'.

My understanding is it just confirms the woman has recently had penatrative sex. There is probably DNA too - but again that doesn't prove rape. If there is injury that's a different story entirely.