EV Drivers Brawl Over Charging Queue at Pattaya Station

I was crushed when Black Canyon stopped serving Tom Kha Gai. Pretty much the reason i moved out of Thailand

If they would just go solar, this might reduce aggression.

Time to put a few panels on the roof, and then trickle charge their vehicles.

Seems like those EV drivers built up way too much static electricity while waiting in line, one little spark and suddenly the charging station wasn’t the only thing conducting energy.

Pattaya might need to install grounding wires… for the drivers, not the cars.

Hahahahaha, ******* douche bag sewing machine drivers!

2 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Hahahahaha, ******* douche bag sewing machine drivers!

This behavior is hardly surprising, in fact its only to be expected, given the self righteous attitude displayed by many of these noddy car drivers, Bearing in mind that most of these sewing machine pilots are also screaming lefties, its actually surprising that we don't see a lot more examples of this selfish, me, me,me, behaviour descending into violence, it's what "tolerant" lefties do, its how they always react when they don't get their own way.

We can expect to see a lot more of this and It wouldn't surprise me if we don't eventually start seeing bouncers at the charging stations and also on the doors of Amazon coffee , as apparently this is where the noddy car drivers waste away the hours it takes to get charged up , probably need bouncers on the entrance to the public toilets too, as the semi- continent geriatrics will be heading there, as a result from drinking too much coffee

Netcitizens were concerned the effect this might have on the image of .....zzzzz.....I just fell asleep.

17 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

its actually surprising that we don't see a lot more examples of this selfish, me, me,me, behaviour descending into violence

I suspect very few have actual an actual set of balls!

38 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

This behavior is hardly surprising, in fact its only to be expected, given the self righteous attitude displayed by many of these noddy car drivers, Bearing in mind that most of these sewing machine pilots are also screaming lefties, its actually surprising that we don't see a lot more examples of this selfish, me, me,me, behaviour descending into violence, it's what "tolerant" lefties do, its how they always react when they don't get their own way.

We can expect to see a lot more of this and It wouldn't surprise me if we don't eventually start seeing bouncers at the charging stations and also on the doors of Amazon coffee , as apparently this is where the noddy car drivers waste away the hours it takes to get charged up , probably need bouncers on the entrance to the public toilets too, as the semi- continent geriatrics will be heading there, as a result from drinking too much coffee

Obsessed with "lefties". I am worried about you, really. Have you not got anything else to do?

The article does not explain why, making it very hard to care.

10 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

and had pre-booked a charging slot at the station.

Another joy to keep the drivers of EV occupied , How on earth is that even a thing , Thais are terrible time keepers what happens as the day progresses and they get later and later do the others all have to wait ? Does the charging machine have to stand idol if somchai gets a flat battery on the way ? Cant see that catching on

6 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Another joy to keep the drivers of EV occupied , How on earth is that even a thing , Thais are terrible time keepers what happens as the day progresses and they get later and later do the others all have to wait ? Does the charging machine have to stand idol if somchai gets a flat battery on the way ? Cant see that catching on

Your ignorance of everything EV is clear. You might want to stop posting in this thread because every time you do you make a fool of yourself.

Only certain EV stations allow bookings. And it is only held for 5 minutes. If you are 6 minutes late your booking has been released and it's free for someone else to use.

34 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

The article does not explain why, making it very hard to care.

Did you miss this part ... "One driver claimed he was parked correctly, while the other insisted he had been waiting longer and accused the first of improperly using a charging head in a space reserved for waiting vehicles." ...

Seemed fairly obvious to me.

climate change causes queue at charging stations, scientists say

32 minutes ago, mordothailand said:

climate change causes queue at charging stations, scientists say

Handbags.... handbags at 20 paces will be the new normal!

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Did you miss this part ... "One driver claimed he was parked correctly, while the other insisted he had been waiting longer and accused the first of improperly using a charging head in a space reserved for waiting vehicles." ...

Seemed fairly obvious to me.

What about the line control was not working? There is nothing here worth fighting over.

1 minute ago, cjinchiangrai said:

What about the line control was not working? There is nothing here worth fighting over.

Physical fight, yea, that's a bit much. Sh!t happens when 2 Alphas collide.

I don't get the waiting thing, as I won't, and just hit the next CS down the road. Why you don't take it down below 20%, Really is no need to, as even with our small battery and that's 3+ hours on the road.

1 hour ago, mordothailand said:

climate change causes queue at charging stations, scientists say

Drive the 'chosen one', and there's not Q

3 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

This behavior is hardly surprising, in fact its only to be expected, given the self righteous attitude displayed by many of these noddy car drivers, Bearing in mind that most of these sewing machine pilots are also screaming lefties, its actually surprising that we don't see a lot more examples of this selfish, me, me,me, behaviour descending into violence, it's what "tolerant" lefties do, its how they always react when they don't get their own way.

We can expect to see a lot more of this and It wouldn't surprise me if we don't eventually start seeing bouncers at the charging stations and also on the doors of Amazon coffee , as apparently this is where the noddy car drivers waste away the hours it takes to get charged up , probably need bouncers on the entrance to the public toilets too, as the semi- continent geriatrics will be heading there, as a result from drinking too much coffee

Wow... That’s an impressive meltdown for someone who's just been overtaken by a Nissan Leaf!!!

You’ve turned a bloke with a latte into the final boss of civilisation - bouncers on plug sockets, pensioners rioting in the loos, the whole apocalypse powered by oat milk.

Meanwhile, the rest of us are just wondering how someone waiting quietly for a battery to fill has managed to drain yours completely.

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Did you miss this part ... "One driver claimed he was parked correctly, while the other insisted he had been waiting longer and accused the first of improperly using a charging head in a space reserved for waiting vehicles." ...

Seemed fairly obvious to me.

We’ve had an EV for well over a year now - it’s astonishingly fast and does around 500 km on a full charge - so we’ve barely needed to use public chargers (due to over night charging from home and saved hours and hours by now on not needing gas station fill ups).

I think we’ve used public chargers about 5x: 2x at hotels, 1x at a shopping centre, 2x at motorway service stations - those were quick 50% top-ups, about 20 minutes, while grabbing a bite.

We’ve never had to book a charger. My understanding, though, is that booking simply reserves the unit - it won’t activate until you scan the QR code on the charger via the app within a set time window and no one else can use it within that time window either.

So I’m wondering if this situation was actually down to someone parking in the wrong bay - using a charger intended for the adjacent space - meaning the cable wouldn’t reach the car that had legitimately booked it.

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

We’ve had an EV for well over a year now - it’s astonishingly fast and does around 500 km on a full charge - so we’ve barely needed to use public chargers (due to over night charging from home and saved hours and hours by now on not needing gas station fill ups).

I think we’ve used public chargers about 5x: 2x at hotels, 1x at a shopping centre, 2x at motorway service stations - those were quick 50% top-ups, about 20 minutes, while grabbing a bite.

We’ve never had to book a charger. My understanding, though, is that booking simply reserves the unit - it won’t activate until you scan the QR code on the charger via the app within a set time window and no one else can use it within that time window either.

So I’m wondering if this situation was actually down to someone parking in the wrong bay - using a charger intended for the adjacent space - meaning the cable wouldn’t reach the car that had legitimately booked it.

Nah, if was booked, there'd be no question who would use next. I'm thinking the guy that plugged in, was parked on the side spot, as usually 3 at PTT, 2 in front of cables, one next to, which can actually access a slow charging cable at some stations.

Along if parked close enough, the fast charging cable will reach, some anyway.

When the person charging unplugged, he simply plugged in, before the other guy had a chance to pull in to charge. The other apparently waiting longer didn't like not being noticed he was waiting longer. Although, how are you suppose to know, he was waiting, if not obvious, which may or not been , and was he actually in his car waiting.

Probably funny as all hell to watch. Munchies, toilet & entertainment.

I just hope the vendors don't use this as an excuse, to go, reserve only, as I won't. It's against my religion, to pay, to spend money.

12 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

EV Drivers Brawl

Another negative with EV's.

You'd never see these conflicts, brawls at petrol stations

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

Nah, if was booked, there'd be no question who would use next. I'm thinking the guy that plugged in, was parked on the side spot, as usually 3 at PTT, 2 in front of cables, one next to, which can actually access a slow charging cable at some stations.

Along if parked close enough, the fast charging cable will reach, some anyway.

When the person charging unplugged, he simply plugged in, before the other guy had a chance to pull in to charge. The other apparently waiting longer didn't like not being noticed he was waiting longer. Although, how are you suppose to know, he was waiting, if not obvious, which may or not been , and was he actually in his car waiting.

Probably funny as all hell to watch. Munchies, toilet & entertainment.

I just hope the vendors don't use this as an excuse, to go, reserve only, as I won't. It's against my religion, to pay, to spend money.

Yep - that make sense - one of them queue jumped without realising it - both stood their ground.

Or, one of them was just an ahole and new he was 'queue jumping' and didn't care, enraging the other.

I've seen this in a 7-11... Someone jumps the queue - a guy behind points it out and the response is "so what ??!!!!".... More likely a face saving response....

22 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Another negative with EV's.

You'd never see these conflicts, brawls at petrol stations

Hope that was a joke ... 😄

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Another negative with EV's.

You'd never see these conflicts, brawls at petrol stations

I appreciate how you constantly stay loyal to your deluded imagination and then play Schrödinger's douche with retroactive wit when your sarcasm flops.....

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

We’ve had an EV for well over a year now - it’s astonishingly fast and does around 500 km on a full charge - so we’ve barely needed to use public chargers (due to over night charging from home and saved hours and hours by now on not needing gas station fill ups).

I think we’ve used public chargers about 5x: 2x at hotels, 1x at a shopping centre, 2x at motorway service stations - those were quick 50% top-ups, about 20 minutes, while grabbing a bite.

We’ve never had to book a charger. My understanding, though, is that booking simply reserves the unit - it won’t activate until you scan the QR code on the charger via the app within a set time window and no one else can use it within that time window either.

So I’m wondering if this situation was actually down to someone parking in the wrong bay - using a charger intended for the adjacent space - meaning the cable wouldn’t reach the car that had legitimately booked it.

Interesting post, except for the overstated comment .....

" .... and saved hours and hours by now on not needing gas station fill ups)."

I'm looking at an EV as a second car (Cherry V23 I think), but my diesel SUV gets just over 1000 km on one fill, and filling up takes minutes and I can sit in the car while it's done, so time saving on diesel fill ups is not a reason to move to an EV.

But I agree, for shorter trips, and with home charging plus solar, there's a significant cost savings and no need for a brawl at a charging station, but for longer trips and our work on farms, a diesel 4×4 is still the best tool.

But thinking back, I've seen some drama at gas stations when people cut in lines, so the OP is not really an EV only issue.

13 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

If they would just go solar, this might reduce aggression.

Time to put a few panels on the roof, and then trickle charge their vehicles.

Not an option for residents of condos and apartments.

45 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

Interesting post, except for the overstated comment .....

" .... and saved hours and hours by now on not needing gas station fill ups)."

Yeah - over egged that one...

At 6-10 mins per 'full-up' on average - filling up every 10 days...

Somewhere between 6 and 10 hours of 'not filling up' - since we had the EV - hardly life changing time savings - nevertheless, its just an added convenience we've noticed.

Its notice more on the AM school run etc... usually, oh shhh... we forgot to fill up yesterday - and then have to add time to a journey we're already cutting fine.

45 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

I'm looking at an EV as a second car (Cherry V23 I think), but my diesel SUV gets just over 1000 km on one fill, and filling up takes minutes and I can sit in the car while it's done, so time saving on diesel fill ups is not a reason to move to an EV.

But I agree, for shorter trips, and with home charging plus solar, there's a significant cost savings and no need for a brawl at a charging station, but for longer trips and our work on farms, a diesel 4×4 is still the best tool.

Cost savings are notable - but nothing life changing again - about 8000 baht in fuel before... about 2000 baht extra on our electricity bill with home charging (roughly eyeballing it).

45 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

But thinking back, I've seen some drama at gas stations when people cut in lines, so the OP is not really an EV only issue.

Agreed - the Op is not an EV issue - is a "d!<k-head issue" and that same issues occur when two nob-wombles overlap into each others sphere.

I don't care about EV's - I don't think they're better for the environment - ours is heavier, is less 'steady' on high-speed expressway corners less, but is impressively quick otherwise.

It suits us, it suits the mileage we do - its a good car and competes very well with the standards of the ICE's in the same SUV bracket - I'd buy another EV instead of an ICE regardless of the occasional twit at a charging station.

BUT... one key issue: On the rare occasions I have charged away from home - we do so, so rarely, that the App needs updating, the payment information needs updating, the company has changed, a brand new app is required, its a different charging company etc... and its a total faff - we are left fumbling about for 10mins trying to register just so we can use the damn thing - and thats not a good pay off at all....

1 hour ago, Kinnock said:

Interesting post, except for the overstated comment .....

" .... and saved hours and hours by now on not needing gas station fill ups)."

I'm looking at an EV as a second car (Cherry V23 I think), but my diesel SUV gets just over 1000 km on one fill, and filling up takes minutes and I can sit in the car while it's done, so time saving on diesel fill ups is not a reason to move to an EV.

But I agree, for shorter trips, and with home charging plus solar, there's a significant cost savings and no need for a brawl at a charging station, but for longer trips and our work on farms, a diesel 4×4 is still the best tool.

But thinking back, I've seen some drama at gas stations when people cut in lines, so the OP is not really an EV only issue.

1 hour ago, Kinnock said:

Interesting post, except for the overstated comment .....

" .... and saved hours and hours by now on not needing gas station fill ups)."

I'm looking at an EV as a second car (Cherry V23 I think), but my diesel SUV gets just over 1000 km on one fill, and filling up takes minutes and I can sit in the car while it's done, so time saving on diesel fill ups is not a reason to move to an EV.

But I agree, for shorter trips, and with home charging plus solar, there's a significant cost savings and no need for a brawl at a charging station, but for longer trips and our work on farms, a diesel 4×4 is still the best tool.

But thinking back, I've seen some drama at gas stations when people cut in lines, so the OP is not really an EV only issue.

1 hour ago, Kinnock said:

Interesting post, except for the overstated comment .....

" .... and saved hours and hours by now on not needing gas station fill ups)."

I'm looking at an EV as a second car (Cherry V23 I think), but my diesel SUV gets just over 1000 km on one fill, and filling up takes minutes and I can sit in the car while it's done, so time saving on diesel fill ups is not a reason to move to an EV.

But I agree, for shorter trips, and with home charging plus solar, there's a significant cost savings and no need for a brawl at a charging station, but for longer trips and our work on farms, a diesel 4×4 is still the best tool.

But thinking back, I've seen some drama at gas stations when people cut in lines, so the OP is not really an EV only issue.

I am interested to know what Thai SUV can get 1000km on 1 tank of diesel ?

1 hour ago, dddave said:

Not an option for residents of condos and apartments.

If I were KING OF THE WORLD, then this WOULD be an option for condo dwellers.

All roof space should be divided between condo owners, equally.

And, roof space must be reserved for solar.

Simple as pie.

56 minutes ago, Isan Farang said:

I am interested to know what Thai SUV can get 1000km on 1 tank of diesel ?

Nissan Terra. When filled up the range shows just over 1000 km, and in practice I think that's about right. I've done 800 km and it was not showing the yellow fuel warning light, which is supposed to be 150 km left in the tank.