Anca Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I travelled to AoNang (Krabi) many times every year, first time in December 2011, after first time I believed AoNang was my paradise on Earth! I loved the area and I was stupid enough to believe this place was safe... Because I never read Thai news (before now) and when we stayed in AoNang me and my family enjoyed time with local friends, visit local temples, practice yoga and meditate, not at least helping homeless animals with medical treatment if they needed, sterilised cats and dogs for reducing the number of homeless animals in future. We never party in nightclubs or stayed out in late evenings/nights... (I agree, it sounds little bit boring to spend time like this in Thailand but I loved it and I need much restitution/recovery because sickness) ...what I try to say is when not read/listen to news, never stays out late night, don’t know or watch all the crazy things that happen around you it’s more easy to “loose your mind” and forget you stay in a corrupt country with almost no justice for victims! I will NOT say ‘if I knew all the things I know about AoNang- Krabi now, I wouldn’t let my 19 year old daughter go to <name of bar removed> Bar alone with 3 friends’...because probably I think the same way many people do after 14 long holidays in exactly same area and nothing bad happen to you or some people you know... “this only happen to other people, not me or my family!” I know my self... learning the hard way because I’m almost blind and believe(d) most people I meet is harmless. But what happened to my daughter is not about being blind, stupid, drunk, how she was dressed etc. It’s only about extremely bad luck because all she did was ask the bartender how to find the toilet... he followed her downstairs, he open a door, he pushed her to a bed behind the door, he pull her pants off and he raped her! When rapist is ‘finish’ he stop holding her fast and she run upstairs, continue run outside, down the road and she phoned me... crying and screaming in panic, only words I understand is “moooooom, come to the road outside BlueHotel!!!» Around 50 minutes earlier I looked into her happy eyes and I told her to enjoy time with her friends and now she shaking, screaming and she can’t breathe normally... Police take us to Krabi hospital, she get medical treatment and dna tests from sperm, we stayed 4-5 hours in hospital before we take taxi back to hotel in AoNang. My husband and my 27 year old daughter begging us to come home to Norway same evening... after I called and told what happened they both start searching internet and they read other rape-stories and my husband wanne book flight and begging please take this flight home! In same time many many police officers come to the hotel we stayed in and I started think maybe the police care about us for real... we go with them to Krabi Police station for report perpetrator. Police told us to sign report texted in Thai, I feel not okay to do because the translator many times use google for translation Thai-English and I asked police officer if my local friend (she waiting outside) please can read report before we sign... she answer me “can not madam, secret documents” I feel not safe if we sign... in same way I feel not shoure police not start being angry if we not sign, so we both signed. Crazy to do?!? -yes, I know... Police arrests the rapist same day and next day the police told us we can feel 100% safe because rapist will not be bailed out... and they told us police closed <name of bar removed> Bar because more safe for us! Bullshit, after police closed Bar the staff start coming to hotel we stayed in and threatened us. The staff from Bar and friends of staff threaten and followed us for 2 days, we feel very unsafe and some other people told us the owner at Bar + owner at hotel we stayed in was mafia tougher and that they pay money to police for continue to criminal things in AoNang- Krabi... 100% panics in our minds so we changed hotel this night, my husband booked flight and we escaped from Thailand 5 am 14th February. The police told us the rapist not bailed out but HE BAILED OUT AFTER 1 DAY in jail, how can the police lie about this??? Why do the police pretending they care and almost all they say is lies?!? I’m shoure police believe the tourist-victims not will find out and they believe no other tourist will get the true story about how they practice corruption and lies in cases like this! After I come back to Norway I read so many stories about rape in Thailand and many times the police punish the victims... police and other in ministry means the victim is to drunk and should understand that when females is drunk they ask for get raped... if females wearing shorts in Bar they ask for get raped, if females is alone outside hotel/home after midnight they ask for get raped etc. This make me so ANGRY!!! Please help me find a way for make them understand it’s NOT the victims that do something wrong! Help me fight for more justice in future... if only way for victims to feel justice is to let the world know the truth about how police protect the rapist and blame the victims, share all stories you read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I've removed the name of the bar and images of the alleged perpetrator. Thailand has draconian libel and defamation laws so we don't permit name-and-shame threads. This rule is protect Thaivisa (of course) and our members. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Crossy said: we don't permit name-and-shame threads. This rule is protect Thaivisa (of course) and our members. The libel and defamation laws, are indeed draconian, however naming and shaming is sometimes the only way to protect TVF members !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said: The libel and defamation laws, are indeed draconian, however naming and shaming is sometimes the only way to protect TVF members !! I agree, and rape is a horrific crime, but getting Thaivisa closed down or blocked isn't in our member's interests either. Rock and a hard place I'm afraid If anyone can find this story in credible local or international media (any language) please let us know, we can often publish on a "they published first" basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Crossy said: I agree, but getting Thaivisa closed down or blocked isn't in our member's interests either. Rock and a hard place I'm afraid Yup... Sure is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said: The libel and defamation laws, are indeed draconian, however naming and shaming is sometimes the only way to protect TVF members !! The email never changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcula Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Most probably this case is being brushed under the carpet like many others before and after it. The perp has probably done this to other victims too. If OP wants to see justice, this case needs attention in social media. It won't happen unless the matter is pursued by/through high-profile sources with adequate "uproar" in Thailand and victims home country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Report it to the Norwegian embassy in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Took a quick Google search for the story in the Thai language press but nothing turned up yet. Reminds me of the story of the Dutch girl who was raped there in 2012. Have been several other tourist rapes and attempted rapes over the years there too. The most recent being an attempted rape of a Chinese tourist on 15th February of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Police will most likely only move their ass if it's big on social media And well... it's Thailand, people who know the right people and have enough money can even get away with murder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anca Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 Thanks for support and yours understanding! We will publish in newspapers this weekend, I already post 1 video at YouTube and at my Facebook... if you guys will help me publishing please share from my Facebook: Anca Håkestad or IHANA I Helped AoNang Animals The Norwegian embassy know about this but the only thing they help with is send me a list with lawyers in Thailand and in this list they also write that the embassy take no responsibility for any of this lawyers... feel safe to put money on a local lawyer in a corrupt place like this?!? No way! the only winner would be the lawyer because he/she can handle to make police or us pay more and more... I will not gamble my money into that. The embassy also contacted Krabi Police for get updates in case and ask for copies from the paper we signed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anca Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 Whaaaat... 15 February this year? Please send me link so I can read! my daughter and I escaped from AoNang 15. February... i dont understand how how I can post comment under each comment you people post? I’m NEW in this... only used Facebook and messenger until last days..haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 25 minutes ago, Anca said: i dont understand how how I can post comment under each comment you people post? I’m NEW in this... only used Facebook and messenger until last days..haha! Click on "Quote" under the post to which you want to reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anca Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, jackdd said: Click on "Quote" under the post to which you want to reply Thanks :))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Hi, Sorry to hear what happened. Here are the links:http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30340406https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1027884-chinese-tourist-knocked-off-her-motorbike-in-attempted-rape-say-facebook-posters/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Sorry to hear of your Daughters plite. Sadly The Thai police don’t really think Abuse of women is a serious offence.Thai men are brought up to think women are second class. Even male children talk to their mothers like they are dirt . The farther usually never reprimands them. Hope your daughter can move on with her life. If I was in your position I do not know how I would react. But I would probly make my life’s mission to see the guy have a bad accident. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChidlomDweller Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) To get around the defamation laws, you could email your story to Andrew Drummond where he might put it (with name of bar and perpetrator) on his website. He's based in the UK. Edited March 20, 2018 by ChidlomDweller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Posts quoting a non-approved source have been removed. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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