March 19, 20188 yr Communist party denied registration by EC By The Nation Photo from Sukom Srinual Facebook Election Commission (EC) has rejected new party pre-registration for the Communist Party of Thailand, citing that it was unconstitutional and undemocratic, EC deputy secretary-general Sawaeng Boonmee said on Monday. Representatives of the Communist Party of Thailand on Monday submitted a document requesting to form a new party under that name. The request was signed by Pathom Tanthiti. Hours after the submission, Sawaeng told Kom Chad Luek online that although his officials had accepted the submission letter, he had ordered that pre-registration of the party not be approved. “It violates the laws and constitution since it is undemocratic,” Sawaeng said. Internal Security Operations Command (Isoc) chief Maj-General Peerawat Saengthong said the EC had the authority to approve whether a name was appropriate to be registered or not. “But so far, it [Communist Party of Thailand] is just a name. There is neither a sign of any threat against national security or constitutional monarchy, nor a cause of division,” he said. However, Peerawat urged the public not to link the party with the powerful Thai Communist Party that launched a guerrilla war against the government in 1965. But if anything risked security concerns, Isoc has the duty to look into it, he said. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30341250 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-03-19
March 19, 20188 yr Popular Post 4 minutes ago, webfact said: Election Commission (EC) has rejected new party pre-registration for the Communist Party of Thailand, citing that it was unconstitutional and undemocratic, EC deputy secretary-general Sawaeng Boonmee said on Monday. So what is staging a coup and forcing a constitution on people, then?
March 19, 20188 yr Popular Post 3 minutes ago, baboon said: So what is staging a coup and forcing a constitution on people, then? It's the pot calling the kettle black, easy... By the way, I wasn't aware Prathet Thai got a Communist Party, as of yet.
March 19, 20188 yr Popular Post So a communist party can not be a choice in a democratic order. The one that is undemocratic here is the Election Commission.
March 19, 20188 yr I don't see why you can't have a communist party. If communism has taught us anything, it's that it's just, if not more, corrupt than capitalism. And that after all is what politics is about here.
March 19, 20188 yr Popular Post 4 hours ago, webfact said: “It violates the laws and constitution since it is undemocratic,” Sawaeng said Hmmm, there's been 4 years of that already (and counting)
March 20, 20188 yr Popular Post 16 hours ago, webfact said: citing that it was unconstitutional and undemocratic And this comes from a 'constitutional' and 'democratic' junta?
March 20, 20188 yr In most democratic countries in Europe the communist parties are allowed to participate in elections, but maybe Thailand's Thainess democracy knows more about them?
March 20, 20188 yr Popular Post 16 hours ago, Ralf61 said: It's the pot calling the kettle black, easy... By the way, I wasn't aware Prathet Thai got a Communist Party, as of yet. "Both Thida and Weng then joined the illegal Communist Party of Thailand and fled to its camps in the jungle,[4] hiding there for more than six years.[2][5] In May 1992, she took part in the protests against the military-installed Prime Minister Suchinda Kraprayoon, which are now known as the Black May.[3]" wikipedia. They tried once upon a time.
March 20, 20188 yr Popular Post 17 hours ago, webfact said: “It violates the laws and constitution since it is undemocratic,” Sawaeng said. They're trying to register a party and take part in an election. How is that undemocratic?
March 20, 20188 yr 17 hours ago, webfact said: “It violates the laws and constitution since it is undemocratic,” Sawaeng said. so we are to take away from this that either this guy is either lacking in intelligence or has a very low excuse IQ
March 20, 20188 yr Apparently they just submitted the name "Communist Party" to the commission (no party manifesto), and the name was deemed undemocratic and hence illegal. It's just another paradox to shake your head over.
March 20, 20188 yr 13 hours ago, rkidlad said: I don't see why you can't have a communist party. Maybe refresh on some Thai history? I can't more directly answer your question without violating the ToS here and a Thai law or thirty.
March 20, 20188 yr Popular Post 49 minutes ago, ratcatcher said: "Both Thida and Weng then joined the illegal Communist Party of Thailand and fled to its camps in the jungle,[4] hiding there for more than six years.[2][5] In May 1992, she took part in the protests against the military-installed Prime Minister Suchinda Kraprayoon, which are now known as the Black May.[3]" wikipedia. They tried once upon a time. They tried once upon a time. So true. Then they grew up and tried once more and failed once more. Maybe they should have changed the color of their shirts.
March 20, 20188 yr 1 hour ago, mtls2005 said: Maybe refresh on some Thai history? I can't more directly answer your question without violating the ToS here and a Thai law or thirty. I didn't ask a question.
March 20, 20188 yr 14 hours ago, rkidlad said: I don't see why you can't have a communist party. OK, I inferred that you were asking a question.
March 20, 20188 yr 1 minute ago, mtls2005 said: OK, I inferred that you were asking a question. It was a tongue-in-cheek comment about having a communist party. Was nothing to do with being communist or capitalist - the onus was on corruption and how the people in power can't preach morality to those wishing to enter the political field.
March 20, 20188 yr 22 hours ago, webfact said: Hours after the submission, Sawaeng told Kom Chad Luek online that although his officials had accepted the submission letter, he had ordered that pre-registration of the party not be approved. “It violates the laws and constitution since it is undemocratic,” Sawaeng said. Perfectly understandable that the Communist Party of Thailand registration was rejected. The CPT would represent competition to new pro-military parties by having shared totalitarian concepts of governance - who shares the same disdain towards a people's constitution and their laws while embracing absolute power as the current military government. With the CPT running for election it might be confusing for the Thai electorate who favor continuation of the current Thai Style Democracy.
March 20, 20188 yr 22 hours ago, webfact said: “It violates the laws and constitution since it is undemocratic,” Sawaeng said. What sort of government does he think is currently running the country - and his agency? For that matter, what sort of government does he suppose runs the junta's favoured submarine provider?
March 21, 20188 yr On 19/03/2018 at 3:12 PM, baboon said: So what is staging a coup and forcing a constitution on people, then? Yes, not registering or permitting them to participate, that is undemocratic.
March 22, 20188 yr Quite ballsy of the Commies to have attempted registration in current circumstances given their names will have been noted by the regime's goons.The ludicrous hypocrisy of the EC's reasoning has already been noted, namely that the party was "unconstitutional and undemocratic". I'm not entirely clear however who these communists are or what they represent.Many of the 70's generation have long lost the faith (or died) and many transferred loyalty to other parties.This latest bunch are presumably young/middle aged and I wonder what was/is their agenda. Reality is - whoever they are - that they are irrelevant.China doesn't need a toe hold of this sort anymore, and in any case has abandoned Marxist ideology/revolution long ago.Thai discontent with the unelected elites has rooted itself elsewhere. The sensible course would have been to let these Citizen Smith types register, and then watch them drift into oblivion. But that would have required sophistication and intelligence on the part of the authorities, and we know from the evidence of the last few years these characteristics are entirely lacking - just a profound apparently unlimited stupidity.
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