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Very few Israelis, save historians, or the outside world concerned over Middle East issues, know that Palestinians didn’t start the fire. The violence was started by the Jewish “defence” militia, HaShoMer, in 1909.

Even following subsequent Jewish paramilitary terrorists, at least some Palestinians did their best to resolve the conflict by nonviolent means.

The Fifth Noncooperation Congress (Mutamar al-La-taawun) of five to six hundred Palestinians, was held in Nablus in 1922 and the Sixth in 1923 in Jaffa. 

Both Congresses adopted the principle of noncooperation, but limited its applications to three forms: social boycotts of government receptions, political boycotts of government boards, and a consumers’ boycott of British and Jewish products. 

A ‘Buy Palestinian’ initiative was adopted. Attendees discussed nonpayment of taxes, but rejected such measures because landowners held sway.

An Arab National Committee formed and resolved that a general strike should be sustained until Palestinian demands had been met. Similar committees organized in towns and villages in what would be the last attempt to mobilize all Arab political tendencies into an interlocking program of noncooperation, now that protest activities had been forbidden. 

"The [Arab Higher] Committee intimated that, while they were not responsible for it, the agitation in favour of ‘civil disobedience’ must be regarded as a spontaneous expression of national feeling, and they added that they could not use their influence ... to call off the strike unless Jewish immigration was suspended. 

In the 1960s, the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) used “from the river to the sea” to call for what they saw as a "decolonized" state encompassing the entirety of Mandatory Palestine. By 1969, after several revisions, the PLO used the phrase to call for a one-state solution, that would mean "one democratic secular state that would supersede the ethno-religious state of Israel".

“The settler produces the stimulus for anger while monopolising all legitimate means of acting upon it. Strikes and assemblies are banned: legal redress is blocked through military courts; peaceful marches are banned with military force; and then, when resistance turns violent after every civil avenue has been sealed, that violence is invoked as proof that repression was necessary all along.” — Frantz Fanon, The Wretched of the Earth, psychiatrist, philosopher, anti-imperialist, anti-colonial.

Qur'an commands: Turn to the principle of unity—the unity of God and the unity of mankind. We interpret this to mean that we can meet with Marxists on the common ground of standing up to the forces of international arrogance; we can meet nationalists, even secular nationalists, on the common ground of Arab causes, which are also Islamic causes. Islam recognizes the Other.... So Islam does not negate the Other; it invites the Other to dialogue. (1995)

The Olive Harvest Coalition, which formed in 2002, assists with the Palestinian harvest of olives, which is often threatened by the actions of Jewish settlers. The activity has become a tradition among the radical and human rights groups, which join together each year for this harvest, both veteran groups, such as Gush Shalom (Peace Bloc) and newly established ones since the Al-Aqsa Intifada, such as Machsom (Checkpoint) Watch 

Palestinians are not all Hamas. That’s what Israel wants you to believe. Like people everywhere, the great percentage of Palestinians just want peace and sustenance for their families.

 

11 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

The violence was started by the Jewish “defence” militia, HaShoMer, in 1909.

Wrong, it started with Battle of Yarmouk in 636 CE. Who decides how far in history we have to look to decide who was guilty. So let's be honest; this cycle of violence was started by the murderous, rapist ragheads of Ocober 7, 2023.

Are the 'Jews' and that piece of land not mentioned in the "Koran".

Let's start from when Muslims accepted who were living there.

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I await the riducle

People forget the origin story so quickly. For those Israel supporters and for those who support the Palestinian genocide, bear in mind the contents shown below come from in Israeli news source.

For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Thus, amid this bid to impair Abbas, Hamas was upgraded from a mere terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, and one that was allowed to receive infusions of cash from abroad.

Hamas was also included in discussions about increasing the number of work permits Israel granted to Gazan laborers, which kept money flowing into Gaza, meaning food for families and the ability to purchase basic products.

Be very careful is that what you support and help to create can often times come back and bite you in the butt.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

Why do so many people (disproportionally leftists) support the genocide of Jews?

Is that not what Palestine wants?

2 hours ago, Peter Crow said:

Wrong, it started with Battle of Yarmouk in 636 CE. Who decides how far in history we have to look to decide who was guilty. So let's be honest; this cycle of violence was started by the murderous, rapist ragheads of Ocober 7, 2023.

I don't disagree. But I also don't entirely agree. I think we have to look at the causes of Oct 7. It was not a spontaneous event. Oct 7 was due to 70 years of Israeli subjugation and repression.

The Battle of Yarmuk in 636 was fought between newly-minted Muslims and Ottomans. I can find no evidence of any Jews being involved. https://www.worldhistory.org/article/1563/battle-of-yarmouk/

The modern cycle of violence began when substantial Jewish immigration began into Palestine. Before that, before 1909, Jews got along with their neighbours. And then, some immigrants got the bright idea that they needed to protect what they had--it's mine, I tell you, mine, mine, mine!--when the reality was, before this, everybody was sharing. Like it or not (and I don't), it was Jews who started the violence that they have never let up on till right this second.

The point of my post is not the sectarian violence. It's the point that some Palestinians tried nonviolence, noncooperation, BDS.

The percentage, of course, was small--how many ordinary people get involved in politics. But it was not as small as the groups of peace activists and draft refusers who are so reviled by brainwashed proles.

5 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I don't disagree. But I also don't entirely agree. I think we have to look at the causes of Oct 7. It was not a spontaneous event. Oct 7 was due to 70 years of Israeli subjugation and repression.

The Battle of Yarmuk in 636 was fought between newly-minted Muslims and Ottomans. I can find no evidence of any Jews being involved. https://www.worldhistory.org/article/1563/battle-of-yarmouk/

The modern cycle of violence began when substantial Jewish immigration began into Palestine. Before that, before 1909, Jews got along with their neighbours. And then, some immigrants got the bright idea that they needed to protect what they had--it's mine, I tell you, mine, mine, mine!--when the reality was, before this, everybody was sharing. Like it or not (and I don't), it was Jews who started the violence that they have never let up on till right this second.

Why do you support the genocide of Jews?

Why do you keep using such provocative language? Nobody is promoting genocide of Jews. Having killed over 73,000 men, women and children I'd say the Jews were attempting genocide of the Palestinians. And that's not to mention the assassination of reporters, aid workers, doctors etc. (all of these, of course, in your opinion were Senior Leaders of Hamas.)

2 hours ago, lungbing said:

Why do you keep using such provocative language? Nobody is promoting genocide of Jews. Having killed over 73,000 men, women and children I'd say the Jews were attempting genocide of the Palestinians. And that's not to mention the assassination of reporters, aid workers, doctors etc. (all of these, of course, in your opinion were Senior Leaders of Hamas.)

Not true. The Palestinians are absolutely attempting to commit genocide on the Jews. That people (mostly leftists) support them in their effort is disgusting.

19 hours ago, lungbing said:

Why do you keep using such provocative language? Nobody is promoting genocide of Jews. Having killed over 73,000 men, women and children I'd say the Jews were attempting genocide of the Palestinians. And that's not to mention the assassination of reporters, aid workers, doctors etc. (all of these, of course, in your opinion were Senior Leaders of Hamas.)

Do you even understand the meaning of the word "genocide" if you did you would realise how ridiculous you statement actually is The killing of "73,000" as claimed by Hamas and those who bizarrely choose to believe them, has got to be the most pathetic attempt at genocide I have ever heard of.

A few decent serial killers could have managed a much better body count than that in the time they have had available to them

Israel is openly committing war crimes for decades, all with the full support of America. That is the problem. Because when the International Criminal Court wanted to bring to trial the soldiers who murdered an Al Jazeera journalist, guess who put a veto ? America (under Biden). So Trump or Biden or who ever else...nothing will change apparently.

31 minutes ago, SingAPorn said:

Israel is openly committing war crimes for decades, all with the full support of America. That is the problem. Because when the International Criminal Court wanted to bring to trial the soldiers who murdered an Al Jazeera journalist, guess who put a veto ? America (under Biden). So Trump or Biden or who ever else...nothing will change apparently.

Do you support Palestine's genocide of the Jews?

Is there an echo in here?

The OP seems to do his homework very thoroughly, he just forgot to mention that the Koran says: "La ilaha illallah, Muhammadur rasulullah" is the core Islamic declaration of faith, known as the Shahada. It translates to "There is no deity but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah". This phrase represents the fundamental belief in the absolute oneness of God and the prophethood of Muhammad.

Meaning, no other faith is allowed to exist, only the Muslim faith, and the others are ''fuffars'' non believers and if they don't convert to Islam, they should be all killed, now you go and make peace with these people.

On 8/14/2026 at 1:54 PM, Peter Crow said:

Wrong, it started with Battle of Yarmouk in 636 CE. Who decides how far in history we have to look to decide who was guilty. So let's be honest; this cycle of violence was started by the murderous, rapist ragheads of Ocober 7, 2023.

Wrong as Oct 7 was a false flag. Research properly & you will find the truth. They even employed the Hannibal Directive!

3 hours ago, Bagwain said:

Wrong as Oct 7 was a false flag. Research properly & you will find the truth. They even employed the Hannibal Directive!

Yes, right, just as the Holocaust. Let's hope Mossad will include social media criminals in its "to do list".

6 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

Yes, right, just as the Holocaust. Let's hope Mossad will include social media criminals in its "to do list".

So, Mossad is going after Social Media Criminals who post misinformation online?

But only if they're not Jews. 😄

Israel spending millions on online ad campaigns to deny Gaza famine: Report

Israel spent $50M on deal with Google, X, other ad platforms to deny famine in Gaza, says new report

Palastine lost a lot support after the attacks on Israel on October 7th. Clear evidence of the Hamas domination of Palastine that Israel and ordinary people fear of the Muslim threat to world peace.

1 hour ago, jippytum said:

Palastine lost a lot support after the attacks on Israel on October 7th. Clear evidence of the Hamas domination of Palastine that Israel and ordinary people fear of the Muslim threat to world peace.

Most Palestinians support Hamas and the eradication of the Jews.

When you want to start a propaganda initiative the best place to start is to create a fictitious narrative and then keep on reinforcing it. Yes the Palestinians have some terrorists amongst them, as do the Israelis. Many settlers, Ultra Zionists and IDF members are committing terror.

In general an objective mind can make argument quite easily that Israel is the new terrorist nation in the Middle East, and that they are the threat.

52 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

When you want to start a propaganda initiative the best place to start is to create a fictitious narrative and then keep on reinforcing it. Yes the Palestinians have some terrorists amongst them, as do the Israelis. Many settlers, Ultra Zionists and IDF members are committing terror.

By some, you mean a majority Palestinians support Hamas, the eradication of Israel.

52 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

In general an objective mind can make argument quite easily that Israel is the new terrorist nation in the Middle East, and that they are the threat.

Please make that argument, and while you're at it, explain how the IDF is committing atrocities similar those committed by Palestine on October 7

7 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

By some, you mean a majority Palestinians support Hamas, the eradication of Israel.

Please make that argument, and while you're at it, explain how the IDF is committing atrocities similar those committed by Palestine on October 7

Love to know what planet or tablets you are on?

We all criticize israels actions. Myself too. But if Israel opens large all it's borders and floods the world with all those fine people from Palestine, from Hamas, from Hezbollah etc...what do you think will happen to your country ? See what happened in the Ceuta that was just a small reminder on the need to closely guard all borders, mainly in Europe that is slowly going to the dogs and will implose if the current governance in Brussels continues in it's absurd policies. So Yes Israel is bad bad bad...but do you want to see all those goons from Hamas and Hezbollah flooding your neighbourhood if the Gaza borders are thrown open ???...a tricky one...even for me. So what do we do ? Let each country handle it's issues like in Gaza or in Ukaine and let's only trade with them and rather be more engaged to save our own countries before trying to meddle in the wars of others be it in Gaza or in Ukraine ??

Edited August 17Aug 17 by Sigmund

On 8/15/2026 at 11:32 AM, Yellowtail said:

Do you support Palestine's genocide of the Jews?

So if somebody does not agree how Israel is slaughtering Palestinians, it has to mean that he approuves the crimes from the criminal terror groups all over Gaza ? That's a strange way to see things...I do not approuve ot the death penalty by a legitimate court of law... but that does not mean that I approuve the hideous acts of criminals. FYI more and more israelis do not approuve on whats going on by their government in Gaza.

2 hours ago, Sigmund said:

We all criticize israels actions. Myself too. But if Israel opens large all it's borders and floods the world with all those fine people from Palestine, from Hamas, from Hezbollah etc...what do you think will happen to your country ? See what happened in the Ceuta that was just a small reminder on the need to closely guard all borders, mainly in Europe that is slowly going to the dogs and will implose if the current governance in Brussels continues in it's absurd policies. So Yes Israel is bad bad bad...but do you want to see all those goons from Hamas and Hezbollah flooding your neighbourhood if the Gaza borders are thrown open ???...a tricky one...even for me. So what do we do ? Let each country handle it's issues like in Gaza or in Ukaine and let's only trade with them and rather be more engaged to save our own countries before trying to meddle in the wars of others be it in Gaza or in Ukraine ??

Siggy, the danger may be, as you state, if Israel displaces all Palestinians, including, presumably some militant, from Palestine. Israel's borders are already open, only to the Jews of the world.

We have a responsibility as human beings to "meddle" in the affairs of any country committing war crimes and other injustices.

1 hour ago, SingAPorn said:

So if somebody does not agree how Israel is slaughtering Palestinians, it has to mean that he approuves the crimes from the criminal terror groups all over Gaza ? That's a strange way to see things...I do not approuve ot the death penalty by a legitimate court of law... but that does not mean that I approuve the hideous acts of criminals. FYI more and more israelis do not approuve on whats going on by their government in Gaza.

No, but if someone believes Israel is committing genocide, and that the Palestinians are not, then yes.

The majority of Palestinians support Hamas and or the eradication of Israel and the Jews. Do you disagree?

Just now, unblocktheplanet said:

We have a responsibility as human beings to "meddle" in the affairs of any country committing war crimes and other injustices.

So why aren't you over there?

4 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Siggy, the danger may be, as you state, if Israel displaces all Palestinians, including, presumably some militant, from Palestine. Israel's borders are already open, only to the Jews of the world.

We have a responsibility as human beings to "meddle" in the affairs of any country committing war crimes and other injustices.

But only countries "committing war crimes and other injustices" that are run by Jews, yes?

Why do the Africans, Chinese and Iranians all get a pass lefty?

On 8/14/2026 at 11:57 AM, spidermike007 said:

Be very careful is that what you support and help to create can often times come back and bite you in the butt.

But Bibi loves Hamas. He even let Oct 7 happen because he knew the green light it would give him to turn 90% of Gaza to nothing but dust and blood, that there would be retaliatory missiles from the north, giving them psychopathic reasons for Israeli expansionism on another border. Allowing 1000 Jews to be butchered in their homes was a very small price to pay for the weasel. 🙂