webfact Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Education Ministry to form DSI-style unit to fight graft The Education Ministry will set up its own version of the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) tasked with investigating corruption allegations against education officials. In his opening address to provincial education officials as well as legal affairs officials on Tuesday, Education Minister Thirakiart Charoensetthasilp said that the ministry planned to form a special team of legal experts, similar to the DSI, to address corruption problem in the ministry. In the initial stage, the team, to be made up of eight staff members – all legal experts – will be directly answerable to the minister and will be tasked with probing all the complaints of alleged corruption lodged against education officials or against any units of the Education Ministry, said the education minister. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/education-ministry-to-form-dsi-style-unit-to-fight-graft/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-11-29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Samui Bodoh Posted November 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2018 "...In the initial stage, the team, to be made up of eight staff members – all legal experts – will be directly answerable to the minister and will be tasked with probing all the complaints of alleged corruption lodged against education officials or against any units of the Education Ministry, said the education minister..." Eight people? Sorry, it is a step in the right direction, but given the levels of graft and corruption we read about (daily) in the newspapers, eight people won't accomplish much. Tackling government corruption is a generational battle, but step one is ACTUALLY firing and prosecuting the thieves; the current policy of merely 'transferring' criminals to 'inactive' posts is no deterrent at all. Find a good case, refer the thieves to the police, splash their photo across every newspaper, every web site and every billboard across the country, then you might start on the problem. If there is no price to be paid for stealing, people are going to steal. Sadly, I don't think the education system taught the decision-makers properly... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 The DSI have hardly shown themselves to be master fighters of graft over the years have they? I mean just look at some of their past leadership figures for all you need to know. It is all well and good making up some grandiose plans about how to weed out the probably 1000's of rotten apples in the system. I am no expert in this field obviously, yet even I can see when the punishments almost never fit the crime for either corruption or generally criminal behaviour by teachers or ministry workers, then it simply fuels more of the same appalling behaviours. I predict business as usual with a few extra fancy sounding soundbites in the mix before a big reshuffle post election. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonhia Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Look more closely at the person in charge and then work down the ladder, not forgetting some agents too. However, not all are bad. Many agents spring to mind, that tend to usually cheat thier employees, with one in particular with the letter 'S' that mainly operate in north east Thailand. Education should not be compromised! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 The DSI have hardly shown themselves to be master fighters of graft over the years have they? I mean just look at some of their past leadership figures for all you need to know. It is all well and good making up some grandiose plans about how to weed out the probably 1000's of rotten apples in the system. I am no expert in this field obviously, yet even I can see when the punishments almost never fit the crime for either corruption or generally criminal behaviour by teachers or ministry workers, then it simply fuels more of the same appalling behaviours. I predict business as usual with a few extra fancy sounding soundbites in the mix before a big reshuffle post election. I think NONE of the corruption agencies work good. Sometimes you see them work hard and bring down some corrupt officials. Those are either targeted because of their political leaning or because they got in the media spotlight. That does not mean that these guy are innocent or that i think they don't need punishment. I fully agree with that. I just think that those cases and others need to go faster and more needs to be examined.Suthep case with police stations is years in the making. The case against Thaksins son is real old too. It just shows how bad the agencies preform.This is probably on purpose for some cases but other cases are just handled slow and badly.So they all need to clean up their act.The amount of people in this new organisation is far too low.Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossy Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Graft! . . . in education? 'Well, at least it's only the 'primary school' level of corruption', the minister will probably tell the world, with the stand-up comic's smug grin on his chops and once he's got his DSI council-appointing committee sorted. Meanwhile, carry on grafting chaps . . . you know hard work is good for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 41 minutes ago, robblok said: I think NONE of the corruption agencies work good. Sometimes you see them work hard and bring down some corrupt officials. Those are either targeted because of their political leaning or because they got in the media spotlight. That does not mean that these guy are innocent or that i think they don't need punishment. I fully agree with that. I just think that those cases and others need to go faster and more needs to be examined. Suthep case with police stations is years in the making. The case against Thaksins son is real old too. It just shows how bad the agencies preform. This is probably on purpose for some cases but other cases are just handled slow and badly. So they all need to clean up their act. The amount of people in this new organisation is far too low. Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Ans should comprise at least 50% not from the Ed. ministry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 A special team to give what's going on the green light and have them pay for the priveledge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Eight? Gonna need 800! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PatOngo Posted November 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2018 5 hours ago, webfact said: Education Ministry to form DSI-style unit to fight graft Almost as ludicrous as getting the cops to fight graft. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted November 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2018 6 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: "...In the initial stage, the team, to be made up of eight staff members – all legal experts – will be directly answerable to the minister and will be tasked with probing all the complaints of alleged corruption lodged against education officials or against any units of the Education Ministry, said the education minister..." Eight people? Sorry, it is a step in the right direction, but given the levels of graft and corruption we read about (daily) in the newspapers, eight people won't accomplish much. Tackling government corruption is a generational battle, but step one is ACTUALLY firing and prosecuting the thieves; the current policy of merely 'transferring' criminals to 'inactive' posts is no deterrent at all. Find a good case, refer the thieves to the police, splash their photo across every newspaper, every web site and every billboard across the country, then you might start on the problem. If there is no price to be paid for stealing, people are going to steal. Sadly, I don't think the education system taught the decision-makers properly... Recently the director of my son's school did a runner. The police and authorities were after her for stealing school funds. Mrs. BB, a former teacher herself, told me yesterday that the director has been fined and will be transferred to a new position at a different school! In the UK she'd have been likely jailed and her career over. Until real punishment rather than slaps on the wrist, are given, this corruption won't stop. Good luck to the team of eight, they're gonna be busy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Fox guarding the chicken coop? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 8 hours ago, Baerboxer said: Recently the director of my son's school did a runner. The police and authorities were after her for stealing school funds. Mrs. BB, a former teacher herself, told me yesterday that the director has been fined and will be transferred to a new position at a different school! In the UK she'd have been likely jailed and her career over. Until real punishment rather than slaps on the wrist, are given, this corruption won't stop. Good luck to the team of eight, they're gonna be busy. "Until real punishment rather than slaps on the wrist, are given, this corruption won't stop." Trueu, true, true, but sadely it seems doubtful anything will change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfLight Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Right. That'll work. Everyone knows who the corrupt people are, this is just a fig leaf in an attempt to get someone else to do something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfLight Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 hours ago, scorecard said: "Until real punishment rather than slaps on the wrist, are given, this corruption won't stop." Trueu, true, true, but sadely it seems doubtful anything will change. It won't. Not any time soon anyway. Too many layers of gold on that idol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Jail the corrupt. Start with mandatory sentences-later they can be adjusted. Do the same for the cops and everyone. The only major obstacle is the corruption in the legal system ????♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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