ratcatcher Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Mavideol said: I said it once, I said it twice and will say it the 3rd time.... Thailand was warned, they are coming for you, it started with travel agencies, mafia, students, etc., and now the tanks, same way it started in the south china sea... colonization process I think it's common knowledge that the Chinese came for Thailand a long time ago. Most of the major businesses in the Kingdom are Sino-Thai controlled all the way from C.P. down. The power in the country is held mainly in Bangkok and probably Chiang Mai. After all, Uncle Thaksin was of Chinese ancestry bless him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scottiejohn Posted January 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) A point that seems to be missing from all the previous posts re the tanks (and also the new subs) is that these weapon systems are NOT in service with ANY other country (including China). The Tanks are purely designed for export and are not in service anywhere else. The submarines they are buying are a redesign of a Chinese made export design, only sold to Pakistan, that they have now claimed to have "modified" (no one has published what these so called mods are) for the Royal Thai Navy (RTN). The RTN have not even confirmed if they have Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) or if the Combat/AIO system is compatible with anything else in the RTN. The biggest problems for any small, or large, military are reliability, commonality and support. Thailand buys new and unproven weapon systems from a plethora of countries rather that relying on a few reliable countries/suppliers. Training, interoperability with each service, never mind inter service/allies, support and logistics must be both a nightmare and horrendously expensive in all sorts of wastage. I have not even started on the requirement (if any) or the suitability (if any) of either system for this country! Edited January 19, 2019 by scottiejohn 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 8 hours ago, holy cow cm said: Waste of money unless they use them with the UN. Possibly will be used AFTER the General Election. I wonder how many will suffer "brake failures"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Leopard Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 hours ago, zydeco said: They will not be in service 40 months from when they arrive. Or 40 hours ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfLight Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Defense ministry defends new lot of Chinese Tanks Of course they do... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 The Chinese tank is a copy of a 30 year old Russian tank, that is superseded by three updated Russian models. It doesn't rate in the top 10 of world tanks. I suppose it will protect from bows and arrows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy 4680 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 As I recall, the gun barrels were prone to exploding if fired, so yes better stick to parades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 No wonder the ancient hodgepodge of polluting busses ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 9 hours ago, grumpy 4680 said: As I recall, the gun barrels were prone to exploding if fired, so yes better stick to parades. No worries, the co-axial machine gun (alongside the main gun) is entirely adequate for machine gunning people in the street, and the one on the pintle mount in front of the turret hatches is great for posing, and can be used against anyone on rooftops... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 18 hours ago, Chris Lawrence said: The Chinese tank is a copy of a 30 year old Russian tank, that is superseded by three updated Russian models. It doesn't rate in the top 10 of world tanks. I suppose it will protect from bows and arrows? as long as it can run and be on the military parades, nothing else is required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/19/2019 at 2:54 PM, Snow Leopard said: More like bribe. Precisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chama Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Waste of money? Hell no! These tanks are expected to be mission essential in putting down any election protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/20/2019 at 7:19 AM, JAG said: No worries, the co-axial machine gun (alongside the main gun) is entirely adequate for machine gunning people in the street, and the one on the pintle mount in front of the turret hatches is great for posing, and can be used against anyone on rooftops... From an Australian pal of mine who is not from the military, but has spent time in other 'intersting countries': 'I saw an army train (in Chumphon) heading north. The gear it was transporting obviously had no use apart from on their own people...' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) no problem! i just watched this video and all the controls inside the tanks are in English! so nothing to worry about. they will not be able to get them started. Edited January 21, 2019 by NCC1701A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solinvictus Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 6:16 PM, DrTuner said: Chinese tanks are a good idea, once China announces Thailand is now it's property they can just carry on as usual. Bit of an overstatement, I'd say. Just my view... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solinvictus Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 On 1/19/2019 at 11:01 AM, robblok said: The point is that tanks are not good crowd control tools, but you seem to think that the people buying them thinks they are. That might be so but they are not. Someone mentioned this saying they were good for crowd control, i just disputed that. I did not dispute that the people who bought them might think otherwise, though IMHO its all about skimming money and not crowd control in their head. Just look at their purchases in the past including the bomb detectors. They seem to buy all kind of stuff that usually does not match what they already have creating maintenance problems and such. So i think not much thought is ever put into the usability of what they buy, just about the commission they receive. I agree. Also, where else would they buy tanks from? The U.S.? Never, as that would make China unhappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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