One, maybe two agricultural agriculture chemicals to be banned

By The Nation

 

 

Deputy Agriculture and Cooperatives Minister Mananya Thaiset has announced that at least one or two of the three controversial agricultural chemicals – paraquat, glyphosate, and chlorpyrifos – will be banned in Thailand by the end of this year.

 

Noting that the Bhumjai Thai Party has given her freedom to make a decision on the matter and that anyone lobbying for the continued use of the chemicals would find it hard to do so, Mananya told reporters on Wednesday that she had set up a committee made up of officials from the Agriculture, Public Health and Industry ministries to study the impacts of the use of these three herbicides for weed and grass control. The committee is expected to report its findings within 15 days.

 

“By the end of this year, one or two chemicals will be prohibited for use,” she said adding, that no other chemical would be approved to replace them. She also confirmed that the decision would be taken after a thorough study of their impacts.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30375187

 

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Out of how many that are forbidden everywhere else? AS  far as I remember the report said over 30 currently banned pesticides and chemicals are still in use in Thailand while they are banned in other parts of the world. 

The story on 10th August was:

Deputy Agriculture Minister promises to ban 3 agricultural chemicals this year

The story today 22nd August is:

Deputy Agriculture Minister promises one, maybe two agricultural chemicals to be banned this year. 

So in the space of 12 days she has come down from 3 to 2 and possibly one.

The agricultural chemical company envelopes must be a bit slow in coming in.

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/deputy-agriculture-minister-promises-to-ban-3-herbicides-this-year/

Edited August 22, 20196 yr by Cadbury

58 minutes ago, webfact said:

One, maybe two agricultural agriculture chemicals to be banned

to be or not be???? 

It's a sad state of affairs that these insecticides are banned in some parts of the world for safety reasons, but the chemical companies are still allowed to produce them and profit from them by selling to countries with more lax safety regulations.

I grow my own veggies

Big corps big bungs welcome to the land of smiles

And the number of cancer patients is rising and rising and rising. It's just disgusting.

Why not give Agent Orange a crack, it has a proven track record for killing weeds!

In the extremely unlikely event that this actually happens, who is going to enforce it?.

26 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

Why not give Agent Orange a crack, it has a proven track record for killing weeds!

You're partly correct.   As I understand it, Agent Orange was a generic name for Glyphosphate (Roundup) but it contained impurities which caused genetic defects in people coming in contact with it - for some generations.

More recently, farmers and other uses of Glyphosphate have been developing cancers due to contact with Roundup/Glyphosphate.

Given that the average farmer in Thailand would not have had much training in the use of agricultural chemicals, let alone correct disposal of containers, contamination of water or even correct protective clothing, the risk is much greater than in most Western countries.

People should get their facts correct and don't talking about things they do not know or understand.Agent Orange was used before glyphosate (Roundup Brand  Name.Owner Monsanto) was discovered.

Agent Orange was 245T supplied  on tender by Dow Chemicals and because the US Govt would only except the lowest bid the product was not throughly cleaned and contained high levels of dioxon which was the

the cause of a lot of the problems that occurred.Agent Orange was blanket sprayed as an off label use (illegal use) by the US GOV. Roundup is target sprayed and cannot be applied by air only ground rigs and handsprays. People are intitled to put their opinions forward but outright bulls!!T as astatement of fact is another thing.

I stand corrected!   Yes, it was 245T as you say.  Normally this was relatively safe for people to use but the impurities caused the problems.

However, Glyphosphate has been causing problems of its own.

18 hours ago, webfact said:

Deputy Agriculture and Cooperatives Minister Mananya Thaiset has announced that at least one or two of the three controversial agricultural chemicals – paraquat, glyphosate, and chlorpyrifos – will be banned in Thailand by the end of this year.

So we've gone from 3 will be banned to: at least one or two !!!

By the end of the year it will be none !

18 hours ago, sup3r1or said:

Out of how many that are forbidden everywhere else? AS  far as I remember the report said over 30 currently banned pesticides and chemicals are still in use in Thailand while they are banned in other parts of the world. 

Look at EU. You can sue the company in the US for millions, in EU the stuff is considered safe. Talking about glyphosphate. 

Some EU countries have tried to ban it. But Brussels says they can't.

 

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

So we've gone from 3 will be banned to: at least one or two !!!

By the end of the year it will be none !

That's because they have set up a panel to take bribes sorry submissions from interested parties for consideration and if the brown envelopes are full enough the submission will gain a favourable outcome for the interested parties!

Edited August 23, 20196 yr by FarFlungFalang

brown envelopes to be expected for the winner that can still poison us for greed

5 hours ago, Paul Henry said:

People should get their facts correct and don't talking about things they do not know or understand.Agent Orange was used before glyphosate (Roundup Brand  Name.Owner Monsanto) was discovered.

Agent Orange was 245T supplied  on tender by Dow Chemicals and because the US Govt would only except the lowest bid the product was not throughly cleaned and contained high levels of dioxon which was the

the cause of a lot of the problems that occurred.Agent Orange was blanket sprayed as an off label use (illegal use) by the US GOV. Roundup is target sprayed and cannot be applied by air only ground rigs and handsprays. People are intitled to put their opinions forward but outright bulls!!T as astatement of fact is another thing.

Haha...have to agree...the classic one further up was calling weed killers pesticides. 

On 8/22/2019 at 3:36 PM, Cadbury said:

The story on 10th August was:

Deputy Agriculture Minister promises to ban 3 agricultural chemicals this year

The story today 22nd August is:

Deputy Agriculture Minister promises one, maybe two agricultural chemicals to be banned this year. 

So in the space of 12 days she has come down from 3 to 2 and possibly one.

The agricultural chemical company envelopes must be a bit slow in coming in.

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/deputy-agriculture-minister-promises-to-ban-3-herbicides-this-year/

Just wait for the Nakhon Nowhere recognized Academics and Doctors to say their deep study yet again shows these chemicals are in fact - healthy. Chem barons put nice chunk on the table and all is going to stay the same.

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/cbbql0/thailands_agriculture_and_cooperatives_minister/

On 8/22/2019 at 2:54 PM, webfact said:

paraquat, glyphosate, and chlorpyrifos

All three produced in China. 

• Fifty-three countries, including China, Vietnam and Laos have banned paraquat, while 17 countries limit the use of all three chemicals. https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/cbbql0/thailands_agriculture_and_cooperatives_minister/
• Paraquat has been banned in the European Union since 2007. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraquat

List of countries that banned or limited use of Glyphosate includes Sri Lanka, Switzerland and Austria.   https://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/toxic-tort-law/monsanto-roundup-lawsuit/where-is-glyphosate-banned/

Summary of evidence for stopping or regulating the use of the three chemicals detailed in Thailand's Pathway to Regulation of Three Dangerous Chemicals by BioThai, published 2018-04-18. https://www.biothai.org/node/1431

If Thailand does proceed with any pesticide ban, it will be against Paraquat.

 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, Paul Henry said:

People should get their facts correct and don't talking about things they do not know or understand.Agent Orange was used before glyphosate (Roundup Brand  Name.Owner Monsanto) was discovered.

Agent Orange was 245T supplied  on tender by Dow Chemicals and because the US Govt would only except the lowest bid the product was not throughly cleaned and contained high levels of dioxon which was the

the cause of a lot of the problems that occurred.Agent Orange was blanket sprayed as an off label use (illegal use) by the US GOV. Roundup is target sprayed and cannot be applied by air only ground rigs and handsprays. People are intitled to put their opinions forward but outright bulls!!T as astatement of fact is another thing.

Monsanto has been sued in the USA for causing cancer

Neither of the weedkillers are banned in the states. The EU banned paraquat but only France banned Glyphosate. Most of the comments here come from people who have no idea what they are talking about but want any excuse to bash Thailand. Used properly both these chemicals are safe and badly needed if Thai farmers are to prosper.