webfact Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Pheu Thai threatens to expose government’s bid to lure its MPs to defect The Pheu Thai party has threatened to expose the government’s various attempts, including financial offers and intimidation, to lure its MPs to defect to the Palang Pracharat Party. Pheu Thai party’s chief strategist Khunying Sudarat Keyuraphan said today that the party has been compiling evidence, including audio clips to be used against the government, of people in the government trying to lure Pheu Thai MPs. Although these dirty tricks are nothing new, she said that these attempts have been going on unabated because the government is politically unstable due to its wafer-thin majority in the House of Representatives. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/pheu-thai-threatens-to-expose-governments-bid-to-lure-its-mps-to-defect/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2019-09-24 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, webfact said: including financial offers The snouts are biting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Not saying it´s right, but what is the difference between this and when Taksin and all other parties were fishing for votes in the small villages with the promise of measly 500-1000 baht per person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikmar Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 56 minutes ago, Matzzon said: Not saying it´s right, but what is the difference between this and when Taksin and all other parties were fishing for votes in the small villages with the promise of measly 500-1000 baht per person? That's a good question, but the Junta came in and promised to wipe out corruption, nepotism etc. Which they havent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Matzzon said: Not saying it´s right, but what is the difference between this and when Taksin and all other parties were fishing for votes in the small villages with the promise of measly 500-1000 baht per person? Only that the military are going straight to already elected representatives. There was also nothing stopping people tak8ng the money, if this existed and still voting for others. I'm sure the attempted vote buying occurred on both sides but one side has to come up with any excuse why the can't win a majority in any election. The democrat8c party were clearly shown how bad they perform in the voters opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Matzzon said: Not saying it´s right, but what is the difference between this and when Taksin and all other parties were fishing for votes in the small villages with the promise of measly 500-1000 baht per person? Your'e exactly right! No different at all to when PM Prayut went fishing for votes in small villages with his bag full of Thai Niyom money and promises that everyone in the village would have free wifi. And he wasn't even an election candidate or PM nominee at that stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominbkk Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Put your money where you mouth is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Matzzon said: Not saying it´s right, but what is the difference between this and when Taksin and all other parties were fishing for votes in the small villages with the promise of measly 500-1000 baht per person? Quite a lot, actually. The Government in this case are offering cash to try to persuade MPs to defect. Not exactly the type of vote buying that goes on during elections, and not just by parties associated with Thaksin. From what I've heard the biggest payers last time were a party with the initials PP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 47 minutes ago, Cadbury said: Your'e exactly right! No different at all to when PM Prayut went fishing for votes in small villages with his bag full of Thai Niyom money and promises that everyone in the village would have free wifi. And he wasn't even an election candidate or PM nominee at that stage. Correct there is no difference at all between them.. sad but true. And now the PTP is losing MP's they start to moan. They would have done the same tricks but they are not in power. Just all petty differences. I might prefer the PTP in power but its not as if they can say they are a clean party all the <deleted> i see with the junta i have seen the PTP do (in general). But like one poster said the junta is more hypocrite as they said they would not do the same old stuff and were against nepotism and corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Love to hear what intimidation style they were using. Just let it rip and see ole Fathead and sidekick Bob Fathead get mad. It will all be tossed to other scapegoats anyway as they are ultimately untouchable. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, nikmar said: That's a good question, but the Junta came in and promised to wipe out corruption, nepotism etc. Which they havent! And so did Yingluck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, robblok said: Correct there is no difference at all between them.. sad but true. And now the PTP is losing MP's they start to moan. They would have done the same tricks but they are not in power. Just all petty differences. I might prefer the PTP in power but its not as if they can say they are a clean party all the <deleted> i see with the junta i have seen the PTP do (in general). But like one poster said the junta is more hypocrite as they said they would not do the same old stuff and were against nepotism and corruption. Yingluck, IIRC, said she was against nepotism (ironic for that's what she was removed by a court for!) and corruption. She was photographed with a big big sign and some cronies about anti corruption. She repeatedly said there was no corruption in her government, the rice scam etc etc. They are indeed all tarred by the same brush to quote a well known figure of speech, Lying and hypocrisy are traits they all share; just like a belief they're entitled and above any and all laws. And sadly, that seems to be traits of many politicians the world over these days. Corruption is getting worse! PTP are now moaning because they've not got access to pots of tax payers money to splash out to smooth their own agendas anymore. Rival factions but same same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Cadbury said: Your'e exactly right! No different at all to when PM Prayut went fishing for votes in small villages with his bag full of Thai Niyom money and promises that everyone in the village would have free wifi. And he wasn't even an election candidate or PM nominee at that stage. Or when the PTP's scientific genius, the one who called environmental protesters garbage, threatened Phuket and other southern areas that they wouldn't get any government money spent on their areas because they didn't vote PTP that was different was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Yingluck, IIRC, said she was against nepotism (ironic for that's what she was removed by a court for!) and corruption. She was photographed with a big big sign and some cronies about anti corruption. She repeatedly said there was no corruption in her government, the rice scam etc etc. They are indeed all tarred by the same brush to quote a well known figure of speech, Lying and hypocrisy are traits they all share; just like a belief they're entitled and above any and all laws. And sadly, that seems to be traits of many politicians the world over these days. Corruption is getting worse! PTP are now moaning because they've not got access to pots of tax payers money to splash out to smooth their own agendas anymore. Rival factions but same same. Yes its sickening all the tricks arrogance and all its just spread to all parties. Always blaming others to be dirty while they themselves are too. When I speak with Bangkok Thais about this they often say they don't care that much anymore because they are all the same when in power. No wonder there are no uprisings here they know the alternative is just as bad why risk it just to bring an other group of corrupt people in power. I really hope that future forward get bigger and stays clean. Then maybe some change will come. But we can't expect change from parties like the PTP or the junta and its allies. That is just the same old thing forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikmar Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: And so did Yingluck! correct. But who mentioned Yingluck. and anyway, she was voted in, Prayut forced his way in with his sweet talk along with a couple of well dodgy songs and has, to date, proven himself no better. Condoning a heroin transporting colleague, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Or when the PTP's scientific genius, the one who called environmental protesters garbage, threatened Phuket and other southern areas that they wouldn't get any government money spent on their areas because they didn't vote PTP that was different was it? Its just that the PTP is just as bad with the arrogance, the petty things to avoid debate. Like the time they send all the opposition home to hold a secret vote. Stuff like that just to get their way. Now you see the junta doing similar bad stuff and worse. And now all of a sudden not in power the PTP pretends not to be crooked and corrupt and attacks the junta on things they would do too. Its just a sham all over how those not in power pretend to be against all the abuse (like how the junta pretended to be against corruption and nepotism) and then in power they just do the same. Good governance is not something that happens in Thailand.. its just a way to get at the money when your in power. I do make an exception for future forward as they SEEM to be clean so far. Plus i really like to stay positive and they are the only thing positive i seen in Thai politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, nikmar said: correct. But who mentioned Yingluck. and anyway, she was voted in, Prayut forced his way in with his sweet talk along with a couple of well dodgy songs and has, to date, proven himself no better. Condoning a heroin transporting colleague, for example. Yea but YL had Charlem, i mean that guy made sure his son got off for murder. I would not know who is worse the heroin transporting one or Charlem. That is what i mean with they all do the same.. keeping crooks in their government if they are useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikmar Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, robblok said: Yea but YL had Charlem, i mean that guy made sure his son got off for murder. I would not know who is worse the heroin transporting one or Charlem. That is what i mean with they all do the same.. keeping crooks in their government if they are useful. youre previous post about "good governance in thailand" hit the nail on the head. all as bad as each other while pretending to have some sort of moral ground. Im not pertaining to be a PTP supporter, but Chalerm did have some comic value. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 34 minutes ago, madmitch said: Quite a lot, actually. The Government in this case are offering cash to try to persuade MPs to defect. Not exactly the type of vote buying that goes on during elections, and not just by parties associated with Thaksin. From what I've heard the biggest payers last time were a party with the initials PP! No, not quite a lot. The bottom line is it´s politics and people do everything they can to be and stay the biggest. In this country the jewel happens to be money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 From what i read from another news source they are targeting MP's with legal problems funny that's not mentioned here. I mean how is possible a government could make someone's legal problems go away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, nikmar said: youre previous post about "good governance in thailand" hit the nail on the head. all as bad as each other while pretending to have some sort of moral ground. Im not pertaining to be a PTP supporter, but Chalerm did have some comic value. ???? What your saying is basically exactly what I am thinking. The ones not in power pretend to have some moral ground, those in power ignore those not in power and do what they want. Then the roles reverse and they do the same again but now with an other party claiming moral high ground and an other in power ignoring everything. Just sickening too bad there is not much alternative. That is why the people are not outraged they see that the alternative is the same just an other face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Hang on to the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazbodner Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I wish they spent as much energy as they do in thrashing each other in parliament to coming up with ideas how they would save Thailand's prosperity when China pulls its capital out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhounan Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Do it! Just do it without talk before, these types of complaints have already done too many deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo 2 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I loved Thailand under Thaksin leadership. Looking up at around the world I don't know one country that's doing well under military rules. -Weak People Revenge -Strong People Forgive -Intelligent People Ignore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 8 hours ago, webfact said: Pheu Thai party’s chief strategist Khunying Sudarat Keyuraphan said today that the party has been compiling evidence, including audio clips to be used against the government, of people in the government trying to lure Pheu Thai MPs. So make them public and start to shame a few people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 pretty rich coming from the ptp considering they have done the same thing themselves in previous elections, very hypocritical but we all know what they are really like, its the same with all the parties in Thailand, its all about money and how much they can make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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