Charlie Hebdo re-runs Prophet Mohammad cartoons to mark attack trial

[Thorgal]

37 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Typical apologist response- the words meant a different thing then and written down long after- so was the Quran and the rest of the Hadiths, you cannot pick and choose what to accept as genuine and what not to accept based on when it was written down. There is no proof the the main Hadith and most respected is any less reliable than any other.

Leaving scripture aside Mohammad clearly did engage in warfare with the Meccans, agreed to a peace treaty then deviously broke it to attack Mecca again. He had Jews executed after promising them amnesty, robbed caravans and had people killed on a whim, sounds like terror to me. BTW Voltaire never said that quote, a biographer did long after he was dead

 

Charlie Hebdo case will be decided at the French civil court in Paris.

 

None of the lawyers of the accused will refrain to Bukhari or any biographer of Volaire.

 

Voltaire also quoted once : “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” I agree fully with him if any ancient religious war text are used to prove a motive of a recent murder case.

[Yinn]

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Another Conspiracy Loon.

 

please post a link about Muslim and Buddhist problem in Ranong. 

I live here 27 years, no problem. You have real experience? Or not? 

 

 

The problem in Deep South (Ranong not Deep South) is not about Buddhism and Muslim. Is about land owner is who. Separation.

 

Some Christian will like to say is religion problem, there false narrative. 

 

Some Scotland want separation from England. Is religion problem? Or not?

same Deep South Thailand. 

 

Ranong, no problem. I have many Muslim freind. In Ranong they very good behavior. Sure. Up to them. 

 

 

[holy cow cm]

Going to be reciprocation for sure. Wonder how creative they will be this time for killing and destruction. 

 

 

[Trek800]

6 hours ago, Yinn said:

Christian and Muslim loons. 

Fighting and killing millions each other hundreds years already. 

The Bible is fiction. The Quran is fiction. 

 

Can believe 100 year ago. But science proof it now. 

Amazing people in 2020 believe this. 

And fight. And kill about it. Everyday. 

 

Up to them if believe that. But kill the other team? For what. 

 

Ranong have lot muslim. Some Christian (not much). No problem here. Why France want problem. For what.

 

Stupid people. (The loons)

 

What Santa think about kill everybody? 

What Santa has to do with those fighting Muslims or Christians? ????

[Opl]

8 hours ago, jspill said:

All of the mainsteam media including Charlie Hebdo still support mass migration of Muslims and others into the West. Charlie Hebdo isn't on our side here, what they do just makes sure migrants hate us and see all white people as 'racist' when they get here, leading to more violence and unrest, which the elites are perfectly happy about.

today's IFOP poll:

59% of French people support the publication of Muhammad cartoons

Where is the problem? 

 

- 18% of Muslims surveyed and living in France do not condemn the 2015 attacks,

- 26% of young French Muslims do not condemn jihadists.

- according to 29% of Muslims surveyed"Islam is incompatible with the values of French society", according to 29% of Muslims surveyed

- 25% of French Muslims surveyed would have participated in "insults and provocations issued during ceremonies in honor of the victims". 59% of Muslims would participate in the minute of silence in tribute to the victims of the Charlie Hebdo attack, against 80% of the French as a whole.

 

- 40% of Muslims put their religious convictions ahead of the “values of the Republic”. Among young Muslims under 25, the percentage is 74%.

   (For all French people, this figure is 17%).

- 61% of Muslims surveyed agree with the statement "Islam is the only true religion", and 29% of them approve the sentence "Islam is incompatible with the values of French society".

 

source in French Le Figaro 

 

Edited September 2, 2020 by Opl

[thaibeachlovers]

23 hours ago, Yinn said:

Christian and Muslim loons. 

Fighting and killing millions each other hundreds years already. 

The Bible is fiction. The Quran is fiction. 

 

Can believe 100 year ago. But science proof it now. 

Amazing people in 2020 believe this. 

And fight. And kill about it. Everyday. 

 

Up to them if believe that. But kill the other team? For what. 

 

Ranong have lot muslim. Some Christian (not much). No problem here. Why France want problem. For what.

 

Stupid people. (The loons)

 

What Santa think about kill everybody? 

Are you not Thai? What have you to say about Buddhism? It's no better nor worse than Christianity or Islam.

[jspill]

14 hours ago, Opl said:

today's IFOP poll:

59% of French people support the publication of Muhammad cartoons

Where is the problem? 

 

- 18% of Muslims surveyed and living in France do not condemn the 2015 attacks,

- 26% of young French Muslims do not condemn jihadists.

- according to 29% of Muslims surveyed"Islam is incompatible with the values of French society", according to 29% of Muslims surveyed

- 25% of French Muslims surveyed would have participated in "insults and provocations issued during ceremonies in honor of the victims". 59% of Muslims would participate in the minute of silence in tribute to the victims of the Charlie Hebdo attack, against 80% of the French as a whole.

 

- 40% of Muslims put their religious convictions ahead of the “values of the Republic”. Among young Muslims under 25, the percentage is 74%.

   (For all French people, this figure is 17%).

- 61% of Muslims surveyed agree with the statement "Islam is the only true religion", and 29% of them approve the sentence "Islam is incompatible with the values of French society".

 

source in French Le Figaro 

 

The problem is the mass migration continues, at current trends France will be Muslim / non-white majority by the middle of the century. Demographers predict the same for the UK and many western countries. The people have no freedom of speech to criticize that, there are harsh penalties to resisting the diversity agenda. Charlie Hebdo are fine with that, they no doubt also mock 'racist' working class people in cartoon form too. So who cares if they do a cartoon that makes Muslims angry, that isn't a win for the French people, they don't have freedom of speech against the migration and they are the ones that end up having to feel the effects.

[Opl]

1 hour ago, jspill said:

The problem is the mass migration continues, at current trends France will be Muslim / non-white majority by the middle of the century. Demographers predict the same for the UK and many western countries. The people have no freedom of speech to criticize that, there are harsh penalties to resisting the diversity agenda. Charlie Hebdo are fine with that, they no doubt also mock 'racist' working class people in cartoon form too. So who cares if they do a cartoon that makes Muslims angry, that isn't a win for the French people, they don't have freedom of speech against the migration and they are the ones that end up having to feel the effects.

it's not the color of your skin that defines your identity, but your core values do. Both Notre-Dame, and the french separation of Church and State are part of French cultural identity, no blasphemy law as well, among others. You don't have to be a White-skin Christian to identify as French. 

But it's obvious that a significant part of the french population, or of people living in France, because they have no other better choice, just bear french ID, do not share our values and prove it through acts as well as  opinions.

The fact is: "Charlie" reminds us the kind of threat they represent ( where it comes from, it's impact on our societies)  and warns us not to back down.

Mass irregular immigration is an other topic.  

   

Edited September 3, 2020 by Opl

[jspill]

1 hour ago, Opl said:

it's not the color of your skin that defines your identity, but your core values do. Both Notre-Dame, and the french separation of Church and State are part of French cultural identity, no blasphemy law as well, among others. You don't have to be a White-skin Christian to identify as French. 

But it's obvious that a significant part of the french population, or of people living in France, because they have no other better choice, just bear french ID, do not share our values and prove it through acts as well as  opinions.

The fact is: "Charlie" reminds us the kind of threat they represent ( where it comes from, it's impact on our societies)  and warns us not to back down.

Mass irregular immigration is an other topic.  

   

Values and culture are downstream from race, and race isn't just skin color. European countries are they way they are because of the people that built them, how they think and act, their Faustian spirit, and European civilisation won't be maintained when people from the third world become the majority. For the most part only ethnic Europeans have European values. 

 

It's incredibly naive to think we can just teach tens of millions of people from the third world our values and they'll all end up being just as European as us. Your position is civic nationalism, that countries are purely about ideas and migrants from different ethnic groups will assimilate seamlessly as long as they take on those ideas. That line of thought has been shown to be a failure for decades, civil unrest has just gotten worse and worse over time and the attempt to transform the country into the one they came from. 

[Oxx]

4 hours ago, jspill said:

Values and culture are downstream from race

 

Is that right? Surely in the case of Islam Islamic culture and values come first, ahead of race.  That culture and those values have gone on to poison (sorry, not the best word, but I couldn't think of anything else) the minds of 1.8 billion people living today, relatively few of whom are middle Eastern Arabs.

 

 

[jspill]

1 hour ago, Oxx said:

Is that right? Surely in the case of Islam Islamic culture and values come first, ahead of race.  That culture and those values have gone on to poison (sorry, not the best word, but I couldn't think of anything else) the minds of 1.8 billion people living today, relatively few of whom are middle Eastern Arabs.

Anyone can convert to it regardless of race, like Christianity, yes, but I think countries are the way they are because of the race and genetics of the majority of their population. There are white European countries with lots of Muslims like Albania & Bosnia, and Asian countries like Malaysia. Reasonably developed places.

 

Most of the Muslims the West takes in though are from the Middle East & North Africa and the problem with those I think stems more from their genetics than religion, basically their lower IQ, higher impulsivity, time preference, aggression, and they'd commit higher rates of violent crime and sexual assault regardless even if they were atheists.

 

Islam is also a problem but conservatives tend to overly focus on that because they're terrified of being called racist or a Nazi because the media and academia have made discussing race such a huge taboo