Luckydog Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Have any of you had a Pet made sick by eating Pet Food here in LOS?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Conners Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Nope, never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfe Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 who would know if the food was the reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November Rain Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Exactly. I had 3 dogs die of old age/liver cancer between HK & Thailand (I moved after the first 2 died, so the 3rd died here), but that could have genuinely been old age, could have been living under an electricity pylon in HK, could have been coincidence, could have been pet food, could have been the water - how would I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nienke Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 I do not feed my guest dogs any low grade food, unless provided by the owners. I do see the misery that low grade pet food gives to dogs, though On going ear infection, conjunctivitis, skin probems, urinary tract problems etc. My own dogs and some guest dogs eat raw. The others eat Hill's Science Diet. I know of three times a petfood, sold in Thailand, gave problems: Diamond was reacalled 1 or 2 years ago, due to contamination Pedigree and Alpo gave liver failure and kidney failure resp. Or just the other way around. Can't remember. Here another update on the petfood recall: PET FOOD RECALL UPDATE: WHAT EVERY PET PARENT SHOULD KNOW As the pet food recall widened last week to include certain products containing rice protein concentrate, the ASPCA has issued new recommendations for pet parents looking for advice on what to feed their pets. “As new products are recalled, there is obviously great confusion in the public space about what is and is not safe to feed your pet,” says the ASPCA’s Dr. Louise Murray, Director of Medicine, Bergh Memorial Animal Hospital. “We’ve prepared some guidelines that we hope will be helpful to pet parents and veterinarians alike.” ASPCA experts suggest the following: - Based on information made public by the FDA last week, the ASPCA recommends that you should not feed your pet any foods containing wheat gluten or rice protein concentrate. - Given that the source of contamination has thus far been identified as coming from outside the U.S., you may wish to check with your pet food manufacturer as to the country of origin of any protein concentrate used in its products. - If you suspect at any time that your pet has ingested food that may be contaminated, call your veterinarian immediately. - Stay alert for early signs of a problem that may be recall-related, such as excessive thirst, decreased appetite or vomiting. - If you think your pet is critically ill and you cannot reach your regular veterinarian, please call the ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center at (888) 426-4435. Please check the ASPCA Pet Food Recall Resource Center regularly for additional information, including updates about foods that were added to the list of recalled products yesterday. `````````````````````````````````````````````````````` RECENT UPDATES 4/27/07: - The Blue Buffalo Company recalls all BLUE and Spa Select products - Sierra Pet Products recalls Harmony Farms canned dog and cat foods and dog biscuits. - Diamond Pet Foods recalls some canned dog and cat food. 4/26/07: - Chenango Valley Pet Foods recalls food made by Doctors Foster & Smith, Lick Your Chops, and SmartPak. 4/25/07: - SmartPak recalls LiveSmart Weight Management Chicken and Brown Rice Dog Food 4/20/07: - ASPCA Press Release: ASPCA Issues New Recommendations On What To Feed Your Pet As Pet Food Recall Widens And Pet Parents Panic - Royal Canin recalls dry pet food containing rice protein concentrate 4/19/07: - The Blue Buffalo Company has recalled Spa Select Kitten Dry Food - FDA Press Release: T.W. Enterprises Issues Nationwide Recall of Dog Chews Due to Salmonella Contamination RECALLED DOG FOOD & TREATS A.B. Dog Chew Added: April 19, 2007 (note: due to Salmonella contamination) Alpo (Purina) Added: March 30, 2007 American Bullie A.B. Bull Pizzle Added: April 5, 2007 (note: due to Salmonella contamination) Americas Choice, Preferred Pets Authority Award Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Berkley & Jensen (note: due to Salmonella contamination) Best Choice Big Bet Big Red Bloom BLUE (The Blue Buffalo Company) Added: April 27, 2007 NEW Cadillac Champion Added: April 5, 2007 Companion Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Companion's Best Added: April 5, 2007 Demoulas Market Basket Diamond Pet Foods Added: April 27, 2006 NEW Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance Added: April 17, 2007 Dollar General Added: April 6, 2007 Drs. Foster & Smith Adult Lite Dry Added: April 26, 2007 NEW Eukanuba Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Food Lion Giant Companion Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Gravy Train Added: April 6, 2007 Grreat Choice Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Hannaford Happy Tails Added: April 6, 2007 Harmony Farms (Sierra Pet Products) Added: April 27, 2007 NEW Hill Country Fare Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Hy-Vee Iams Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Jerky Treats Added: April 6, 2007 Lassie Added: April 5, 2007 Laura Lynn Loving Meals Meijers Main Choice Mighty Dog Pouch Mixables Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Natural Balance Added: April 17, 2007 Natural Life Last Updated: April 17, 2007 Nurture Added: April 5, 2007 Nutriplan Nutro Max Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Nutro Natural Choice Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Nutro Ultra Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Nutro Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Ol'Roy Canada Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Ol'Roy Biscuits (Sunshine Mills) Added: April 5, 2007 Ol'Roy (Del Monte) Added: April 6, 2007 Paws Perfect Pals Added: April 5, 2007 Pet Essentials Pet Life Added: April 5, 2007 Pet Pride - Good n Meaty Last Updated: April 17, 2007 Presidents Choice Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Price Chopper Priority Canada Priority US Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Publix Roche Brothers Royal Canin Added: April 20, 2007 Save-A-Lot Choice Morsels Schnucks Shep Dog Sierra Pet Products (Harmony Farms) Added: April 27, 2007 NEW SmartPak LiveSmart Weight Management Added: April 25, 2007 NEW Springsfield Prize Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Sprout Stater Brothers (Menu Foods) Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Stater Brothers (Sunshine Mills) Added: April 5, 2007 Stop & Shop Companion Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Tops Companion Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Wegmans Bruiser Weis Total Pet Western Family US White Rose Winn Dixie Your Pet RECALLED CAT FOOD & TREATS Americas Choice, Preferred Pets Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Authority Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Best Choice Last Updated: April 17, 2007 The Buffalo Blue Company (Spa Select) Updated: April 27, 2007 NEW Companion Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Compliments Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Demoulas Market Basket Diamond Pet Foods Added: April 27, 2006 NEW Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance Added: April 17, 2007 Drs. Foster & Smith Adult Lite Dry Added: April 26, 2007 NEW Eukanuba Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Fine Feline Cat Food Lion Foodtown Giant Companion Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Hannaford Harmony Farms (Sierra Pet Products) Added: April 27, 2007 NEW Hill Country Fare Last Updated: April 17, 2007 Hill's Prescription Diet™ m/d™ Feline Added: March 30, 2007 Hy-Vee Iams Last Updated: April 5, 2007 J.E. Mondou Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Laura Lynn Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Lick Your Chops Added: April 26, 2007 NEW Li'l Red Loving Meals Medi-Cal Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Meijer's Main Choice Natural Balance Added: April 17, 2007 Nutriplan Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Nutro Max Gourmet Classics Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Nutro Natural Choice Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Nutro Products Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Paws Pet Pride Last Updated: April 17, 2007 Pounce Meaty Morsels Added: April 6, 2007 Presidents Choice Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Price Chopper Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Priority US Publix Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Royal Canin Added: April 20, 2007 Save-A-Lot Special Blend Schnucks Science Diet Feline Savory Cuts Cans Last Updated: April 12, 2007 Sierra Pet Products (Harmony Farms) Added: April 27, 2007 NEW Sophistacat Last Updated: April 17, 2007 Spa Select (The Buffalo Blue Company) Updated: April 27, 2007 NEW Special Kitty Canada Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Special Kitty US Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Springfield Prize Sprout Stop & Shop Companion Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Tops Companion Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Wegmans Last Updated: April 5, 2007 Weis Total Pet Western Family US White Rose Winn Dixie Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Your Pet Last Updated: April 10, 2007 Nienke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nienke Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 who would know if the food was the reason... Who would take the chance that pet food could be the reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinom Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 (edited) A friends two young labradors died of liver failure which was attributed to a bad batch of wellknown branded dog food. Following my friends loss there were a string of other reported cases. (Pattaya area) nothing was ever done about it as far as I know, as they were only dogs sounds like the same maybe happening again by the looks of the long recall list given above (Nienke) Personally I'd no longer take the chance ! Edited April 28, 2007 by sinom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nienke Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 (edited) A friends two young labradors died of liver failure which was attributed to a bad batch of wellknown branded dog food. Following my friends loss there were a string of other reported cases. (Pattaya area) nothing was ever done about it as far as I know, as they were only dogs sounds like the same maybe happening again by the looks of the long recall list given above (Nienke) Personally I'd no longer take the chance ! Really sorry and scry to hear that, Sinom Below diets in order of best to worst, as stated at an Oprah Winfry (winphry????) show, recently: They were listed as: 1. Fresh Raw meat 2. Fresh cooked meat 3. Ultra Premium canned food--mostly meat and veg no grain 4. Premium canned 5. Super Premium grain free dry food 6. Super Premium dry food with grain 7. Inferior dry food Nienke Edited April 28, 2007 by Nienke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man River Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 A friends two young labradors died of liver failure which was attributed to a bad batch of wellknown branded dog food. Following my friends loss there were a string of other reported cases. (Pattaya area) nothing was ever done about it as far as I know, as they were only dogs sounds like the same maybe happening again by the looks of the long recall list given above (Nienke) Personally I'd no longer take the chance ! Really sorry and scry to hear that, Sinom Below diets in order of best to worst, as stated at an Oprah Winfry (winphry????) show, recently: They were listed as: 1. Fresh Raw meat 2. Fresh cooked meat 3. Ultra Premium canned food--mostly meat and veg no grain 4. Premium canned 5. Super Premium grain free dry food 6. Super Premium dry food with grain 7. Inferior dry food Nienke As always, thanks Nienke. I think, based on previous postings, we can add to the fresh cooked meat no cooked bones, correct? Out of curiousity, what would be the premium grain free canned and grain free dry pet foods in Thailand (or at least some of them)? Right now, our golden gets Eukanuba which is her favorite. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffy Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 does anyone have any good receipes for homemade dog food? Is it really nessassary to buy over priced US brands that may or may not be safe for them to eat? I would think a mixture of rice, veggies and chicken or other meat should be as healthy or more so than store bought dry food and probably cheaper as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nienke Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 As always, thanks Nienke. I think, based on previous postings, we can add to the fresh cooked meat no cooked bones, correct? Out of curiousity, what would be the premium grain free canned and grain free dry pet foods in Thailand (or at least some of them)? Right now, our golden gets Eukanuba which is her favorite. Thanks. Hi there, Absolutely correct! Sorry about the confusion. NEVER EVER give cooked bones. Also pork bones become brittle and can do lots of harm. Long time ago I used to cook the marrow buffalo or cow bones lightly before giving it to my dogs, but they always vomitted pieces out. Now I give it raw and no problem since. As for premium grade grain free pet foods, I really don't know. I hardly ever go to the pet shops here. Don't feel good when I go, especially when I see those animals in their cages. The petfood I give to the guest dogs I buy directly from Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nienke Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 does anyone have any good receipes for homemade dog food?Is it really nessassary to buy over priced US brands that may or may not be safe for them to eat? I would think a mixture of rice, veggies and chicken or other meat should be as healthy or more so than store bought dry food and probably cheaper as well. As for the raw feeding there's an article about it on my website (see profile). As for the cooked meals, don't know about cats. Have to look that up. I do know that they need much more animal protein than dogs. Dogs can eat rice, veggies, fruits mixed with meat. I would give not too much rice and preferable brown rice (say about 20%) and the rest is 50-50 meat and veggie-fruit-mix. As you can't give the cooked bones, you should add bonemeal or sometimes very finely crushed eggshells. As for recipes, you can search the net. However, be always aware for the variety in the meals. Always the same recipe with the same ingredients can also give problems. You can vary in the animal protein by giving for example 2 days chicken, a day beef, a day pork, a fish day (preferable oily seafish such as makerel or sardines) and again 2 days chicken, etc.. (you can also give lamb, duck, ostrich, salmon, crocodile, kangaroo or whatever. However, that's way above my budget Although I do know people who give these ingredients to their dogs on these days that they eat it themselves ) Also vary in the veggies and fruits you give. Green leafy veggies are quite good, but also cucumber, tomato, brocoli, cauliflower, and al that you can find on the local market or in the supermarket. I would avoid onion and per week not more than one clove of garlic per medium size or large dog (1 for a small dog or pup). When you give pumpkin , give also the pits. All sorts of fruits are good to give. if you plan to cook, cook only briefly in order to break the cellwalls in the plant. if you cook too long, than there is a high chance the vitamins and minerals will be gone and/or the chemical composition can change and so become unavailable for the animal. Cooking does destroy the digestive enzyms in the ingredients. I think that you can follow more or less the guidelines as written in the article on my website, only you add some rice and the meat you cook. As for the vegies and fruit, I still prefer to give those raw and thus put them through the blender. You can make a whole load of meals in one time and then put them as mealtime protions in you freezer. However, it is not advisable to defrost it in a microwave or the like. Well, that's for now. Wish you good luck, and maybe others can add a lot more valuable info to this. Nienke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nienke Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 More updates on the petfood recall: "http://www.itchmo.com/read/blue-buffalo-recalls-all-canned-dog-and-cat-food-as-well-as-treats_20070427'>http://www.itchmo.com/read/blue-buffalo-recalls-all-canned-dog-and-cat-food-as-well-as-treats_20070427 BREAKING NEWS: Blue Buffalo Recalls All Canned Dog and Cat Food, As Well As Treats Blue Buffalo just announced another expansion of the recall covering: * All Blue brand can dog foods * All Spa Select brand can cat foods * All Blue Health Bar treats. The release indicates that rice protein was added without their knowledge to these products. Blue Buffalo attributes this to ณtamperingฒ by their contract manufacturer American Nutrition, who was connected to several other recalls on Thursday. Blue Buffalo Recalls Can and Biscuit Products Due To Tampering By American Nutrition Inc. Contact:Consumer Inquiries: 1-800-919-2833 Media Inquiries: David Petrie 1-203-762-9751 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASEWilton, Connecticut, April 26, 2007. We at the Blue Buffalo Company have just learned that American Nutrition Inc. (ANI), the manufacturer of all our cans and biscuits, has been adding rice protein concentrate to our can formulas without our knowledge and without our approval. This is product tampering, and it apparently has been going on for some time. The can formulas that we developed, and trusted them to produce, never contained any rice protein concentrate. It appears that only an FDA investigation of ANIนs rice protein concentrate supplies forced them to reveal this product tampering to us. While this activity by ANI is in itself unlawful, the situation is further clouded by the fact that ANI has been receiving rice protein concentrate from Wilber-Ellis, some of which the FDA has determined to be contaminated with melamine. So while no BLUE or Spa Select canned product has tested positive for the presence of melamine, and there has been no reported illness due to any of our canned products, we simply cannot be sure of what ANI has been including in our formulas. For this reason, we have decided to remove all of our canned and biscuit products from retail distribution. While this may seem to many to be a major over-reaction, as other ANI customers will probably only recall the products that tested positive for melamine, we see this as a matter of integrity. We founded Blue Buffalo on the principle of providing dogs and cats with the highest quality and most nutritious food, and we will not sell any product that doesnนt meet this standard. And under these circumstances, we cannot say that any products manufactured by ANI measure up. The obvious question is ณhow could Blue Buffalo not know that ANI was putting rice protein concentrate into our canned food?ฒ The answer is we trusted them. In business and in life, we all trust our partners to deal with us honestly. When we buy produce from our local grocery store, we are trusting growers, shippers and a series of handlers to have delivered a product that is safe and nutritious for our family. If any one of these parties betrays our trust, contaminated products can make their way to our dinner table. And while we test for known toxins and contaminants, we donนt test for protein sources, like rice protein concentrate, especially when we did not formulate our products to contain them. In the end, this all comes down to an issue of integrity, and ANI has not been honest with us and with the pet parents who buy our products. We will not put any product made by ANI on the shelf, and are temporarily withdrawing an important part of our business in order to be true to our pet parents. We have already started the process of identifying a can and biscuit manufacturer with whom we can build a partnership based on trust. Once we have accomplished this, BLUE and Spa Select cans and BLUE Health Bars will be reintroduced with the high quality and superior nutrition that our brand stands for and that dogs and cats deserve. We have informed our retail partners and the FDA about this action and will be cooperating with them to complete this recall quickly. The specific product involved includes all ณBLUEฒ brand can dog foods, all ณSpa Selectฒ brand can cat foods and all ณBLUE Health Barฒ treats. Consumers who have unused or partially used packages of any of these products should return them to their place of purchase for a complete refund. All ณBLUEฒ dry natural food for dogs and ณSpa Selectฒ dry natural foods for cats are not affected by this recall and are safe for consumption. Should consumers have a specific question, they can call the Company at 1-800-919-2833, Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. EDT, to receive more information. HYPERLINK "http://www.itchmo com/go/tagged/safety/" Recall Update: Friday Friday, April 27th, 2007 Yesterday, we saw several recalls that should have been announced more than a week ago. The FDA continued to be in the dark, and pets and people are left to fend for ourselves. We write this update with a heavy heart. Itchmo suggested avoiding rice protein what we didnนt know was that many ingredient lists were misleading. The ingredient labels did not list rice protein. In fact, ingredient lists can no longer be trusted leaving the consumer with little chance at avoiding high-risk ingredients. (NEW) ChemNutra says Menu Foods got wheat gluten from more than one source. Also, FDA says tainted food may have been imported by Wilbur-Ellis as early as 2006. Is the FDA testing food from last year? How long has this really been going on? (Edited) Recalls Within the Last 24 Hours: * Blue Buffalo recalls all canned dog and cat food, plus treats. * Natural Balance recalls more foods. * Chicken Soup For the Pet Loverนs Soul recalled. * Diamond pet food recalled. (See link above) * Costcoนs Kirkland brand canned food recalled. * Lick Your Chops brand recalled. (See link above) NEW RECALL: Mulligan Stew and Canine Caviar Dog Food Recalled Friday, April 27th, 2007 Itchmo has learned that the list of foods recalled by American Nutrition has expanded to include the following 4 dog food items: * Mulligan Stew Chicken 13.2oz * Mulligan Stew Turkey 13.2oz * Canine Caviar Gourmet Beaver 13.2oz * Canine Caviar Gourmet Turkey 13.2oz In fact, American Nutrition has set up a separate Web site to track the expanding recall. NOTE: As of 10:50 am, American Nutrition and Breederนs Choice has both confirmed that Breederนs Choice products are not affected by the recall.(more ) ------------ --------- --------- ---- NEW RECALL: Harmony Farms Recalls Cans and Biscuits Friday, April 27th, 2007 Harmony Farms food is made by American Nutrition. They are recalling cans and biscuits due to ณtamperingฒ by American Nutrition. The recall covers the following products: * All Harmony Farms canned dog foods * All Harmony Farms canned cat foods * All Harmony Farms Health Bar biscuits Full release after the jump. Visitors going to Harmony Farmนs Web site is unlikely to see this information since 1) itนs in a pop up window (likely blocked) and 2) the window is too small to see the full list of recalls and 3) itนs buried in the text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckydog Posted April 29, 2007 Author Share Posted April 29, 2007 When one asks a Doggie question you can be sure of really helpful replies like these. Many thanks all. Good health to you and your animal friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man River Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 When one asks a Doggie question you can be sure of really helpful replies like these.Many thanks all. Good health to you and your animal friends. Luckydog, thanks for the thread. While the recall lists out of the US are very helpful, when we buy pet food in Thailand there are no watchdogs (pun intended) to help us on tainted foods. I mentioned to our local pet store here in Bangkok (Neinke, no animals in cages here) about the pet food recalls and got the agreement nod translated to mean "why should I care"? The only way any of us can tell if there is a problem with pet food in Thailand is to communicate with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfe Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 latest update on the food scandal BREAKING NEWS: A HORROR STORY EMERGES CHINA HAS POISONED PROCESSED HUMAN AND PET FOOD EXPORTS TO US FOR YEARS by Robert Jay Russell, Ph.D., President, Coton de Tulear Club of America [email protected] www.CotonClub.com April 29th, 2007. We've all feared this, but today the /International Hearld Tribune,/ in a story that appeared on the Itchmo pet blog, revealed a worse case scenario: you, me, our pets have been poisoned with melamine and cyanuric acid and formaldehyde since China began exporting processed grain gluten/protein products. I have traced that to about 2002 when China first bragged of its first wheat gluten shipment to South Korea. Under the Bush-Cheney regime, imports of these poisoned grains have skyrocketed while FDA and USDA inspections have practically ceased. Toxicological screens on these imports have never been performed. In short, according to Chinese sources themselves, WE__HAVE_ _ALL_ _BEEN_ _POISONED. And before our overseas readers ask: this IS a global disaster, following the path of Chinese grain exports. I cannot possibly emphasize enough that kidney and liver disease - including cancers, which have killed and sickened an increasing number of citizens and pets, is probably due in large part to this mass and prolonged poisoning for profit. If you or your child or your pet has experienced allergic reactions and perhaps neurological symptoms, you should now suspect that your reactions may be due to prolonged exposure to these toxins. As I have pointed out in previous e-ZINE articles, it's not just melamine that can kill you when melamine powder is mixed into a food supply. BREAKING NEWS: Melamine Spiking in Food "Widespread" For Years http://www.itchmo.com/ April 29th, 2007 We will just let the story speak for itself. Highlights are below. NOTE: The article went missing on the IHT site. We're looking for a new link now. Until then, please read our comments. No more denials, no more hemming and hawing by the FDA. Time to take massive cautionary action is now. It's not just animal feed anymore. It's not just pet food. It's a crisis. It's been going on for years. It's being done in "wheat, corn, soybean or other proteins". All ingredients and foods imported from abroad needs to be tested now. Period. Any food that used suspect ingredients should be recalled. ASAP. Highlights below from the IHT article (emphasis ours): Here at the Shandong Mingshui Great Chemical Group factory, huge boiler vats are turning coal into melamine, which is used to create plastics and fertilizer. But the leftover melamine scrap, small acorn-sized chunks of white rock, is then being sold to local entrepreneurs, who say they secretly mix a powdered form of the scrap into animal feed to artificially enhance the protein level. "It just saves money," says a manager at an animal feed factory here. "Melamine scrap is added to animal feed to boost the protein level." The practice is widespread in China. For years animal feed sellers have been able to cheat buyers, by blending the powder into feed with little regulatory supervision, according to interviews with melamine scrap traders and agricultural workers here. "Many companies buy melamine scrap to make animal feed, such as fish feed," says Ji Denghui, general manager of the Fujian Sanming Dinghui Chemical Company. "I don't know if there's a regulation on it. Probably not. No law or regulation says `don't do it,' so everyone's doing it. The laws in China are like that, aren't they? If there's no accident, there won't be any regulation." Most local feed companies do not admit that they use melamine. But last Friday here in Zhangqiu, a fast-growing industrial city southeast of Beijing, a pair of animal feed producers explained in great detail, how they purchase low-grade wheat, corn, soybean or other proteins and then mix in small portions of nitrogen-rich melamine, whose chemical properties give a bag of animal feed an inflated protein level under standard tests. "If you add it in small quantities, it won't hurt the animals," said one animal feed entrepreneur whose name is being withheld to protect him from prosecution. The man - who works in a small animal feed operation that consists of a handful of storage and mixing areas - said *he has mixed melamine into animal feed for years. ITCHMO CONCLUDES: We've always suspected that this problem went back further than Menu Foods and this article confirms our suspicions. Again, we may never know the degree of deaths and illnesses in pets as many have long died and evidence has been lost. *Dr. Russell suggests:* Stop eating all grain products period. That includes bread and most processed foods. Start cooking non-processed foods for your family and pets. Demand that all Chinese food imports be stopped immediately, and not resumed until thorough toxicological screens can be performed on EVERY shipment. Contact your Senator and your Representatives and demand impeachment proceedings begin against the Bush-Cheney regime. And as soon as possible, get complete CBC (kidney and liver panels) and urinalyses on you, your children and your pets. Remember: you HAVE been poisoned. How badly, you need to find out. I suspect that the dramatic increase in Chinese market share for processed and whole grains has lead to an increased amount of melamine spiking since the Summer of 2006. It's just a hunch, but it's a very educated hunch. Hence, if I am correct, symptoms of poisoning disease should be increasing since that time. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --- ©2007 Dr. R.. J. Russell & the CTCA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nienke Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Thanks, Elfe, for posting. I posted a similar thing (or maybe it was the same, don't remember) a few days ago on the general forum. But it was deleted because it hasn't anything to do with Thailand??? Don't agree, as this is a global thing and don't believe Thailand is saved from this scam. We think we have freedom. But what's freedom if we can't buy food for ourselves and our animals that's safe? And, on top of that, what's freedom when we will loose our fundamental right over our own health and health care (see former thread I've posted)? The world is 'slowly' becoming aware about what's really going on, due some enormous blunders. At least the Bush government is good for something ... Nienke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfe Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 yes nienke... i'm extremely worried as i can imagine thai petfood factories used also imports from china? or even use the same ingredients in their own production... also i have to add, if i feed my dogs for some days only on kibble, i can see that their urine is few and dark. if i feed additionally meat etc only 3 times per week i noticed that some of my dogs lose hair and look pale on gums and earskin. only a few of my many dogs show this but still... had an incident a few days ago, one of my dogs, 3,5 years old, never sick and always fit and well, vomitted all night and morning and got dehydrated quickly. i gave fluid subkutaneous and injected vitamin k1. he got better slowly and is ok again now. this was after feedin him only dry kibble for 3 days... also i had similar illnesses in my dogs over the past years which i never knew the cause and was a bit of a mystery to me... makes me think a lot. when i feed them only meat or the cooked rice dish with meats and veggies, also soaked the cooked rice again in the soup of the cooked fish or meats, their urine is plenty and clear. lots of work compared to feeding dry kibble but definately worth it and could be life-saving!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nienke Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 yes nienke... i'm extremely worried as i can imagine thai petfood factories used also imports from china? or even use the same ingredients in their own production...also i have to add, if i feed my dogs for some days only on kibble, i can see that their urine is few and dark. if i feed additionally meat etc only 3 times per week i noticed that some of my dogs lose hair and look pale on gums and earskin. only a few of my many dogs show this but still... had an incident a few days ago, one of my dogs, 3,5 years old, never sick and always fit and well, vomitted all night and morning and got dehydrated quickly. i gave fluid subkutaneous and injected vitamin k1. he got better slowly and is ok again now. this was after feedin him only dry kibble for 3 days... also i had similar illnesses in my dogs over the past years which i never knew the cause and was a bit of a mystery to me... makes me think a lot. when i feed them only meat or the cooked rice dish with meats and veggies, also soaked the cooked rice again in the soup of the cooked fish or meats, their urine is plenty and clear. lots of work compared to feeding dry kibble but definately worth it and could be life-saving!!! Sorry, to hear/read about the illness in your dog. Hope it was a one time thing and did not do any unknown damage. This amkes me think thoug, this petfood scare. Already someone (Luckydog?) was asking for experiences in feedign raw or cooked. Will start a thread in this, Nienke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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