rupert the bear Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 in light of the fact that the uk govt will have a shot available for all citizens shortly and also a lot of non citizens id like to know the following,will UK embassy staff have this innoculation?will the thai staff?will we UK citizens and also tax payers? if the above can have it why cant we?i hold a UK passport and pay tax so i that i have that right if the staff do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 What inoculation are you talking about ? The UK have only just started phase 3 of their coronavirus vaccine trial, doubt anything will be available to anybody "shortly". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eff1n2ret Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 Why stop at the covid jab? If you think you're entitled to that, why not ask for a flue jab as well, and while you're about it, ointment for your piles? 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 5 hours ago, rupert the bear said: in light of the fact that the uk govt will have a shot available for all citizens shortly There's no evidence of this that I'm aware of. Do you have a source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 What happened to that Russian WuFlu vaccine ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 minute ago, johng said: What happened to that Russian WuFlu vaccine ? They are administering it (in Russia), without benefit of Phase III trials. Most countries prefer to wait until a vaccine is proven safe and effective. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howerde Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Sheryl said: They are administering it (in Russia), without benefit of Phase III trials. Most countries prefer to wait until a vaccine is proven safe and effective. Doesn't that mean years for proof? other vaccines have taken 8 years of trials before being distributed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottinger Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Temper your expectations: https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/06/11/clinical-trial-success-rates-phase-and-therapeutic-area-14845 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, johng said: What happened to that Russian WuFlu vaccine ? Doing great, better than bleach. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post donnacha Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Sheryl said: They are administering it (in Russia), without benefit of Phase III trials. I heard that, instead of Phase III trials, Russia is giving India a generous discount on 100m shots. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 So does anyone know of any news good or bad about the Russian vaccine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 57 minutes ago, howerde said: Doesn't that mean years for proof? other vaccines have taken 8 years of trials before being distributed Can be faster if they enroll enough people. A number of vaccine candidates are already well into Phase IIi and expected to have results by the end of the year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, howerde said: Doesn't that mean years for proof? other vaccines have taken 8 years of trials before being distributed There's no requirement for phase 3 trials to last any specific length of time. It's more a question of getting enough people enrolled. You want to have enough people that any rare, "one-in-ten thousand" side effect is brought to light. In the past it used to take much longer to get approval for each of the various regulatory phases and also to set up and administer clinical trials. In the UK for instance in the past it would sometimes take up to six months just to get your application for a clinical trial to be reviewed by the regulatory body. Recruiting volunteers and setting up the trials could take equally long, especially when they was no particularly pressing need, with diseases that had been around for, in some cases, millennia and for which there were recognized treatments. Partly due to much of the research into HIV-AIDS, there are ready-made networks of trial volunteers and organisers on a scale that never existed in the past. Also, due to the current critical situation with CoVid-19, regulatory authorities are moving much quicker, as are the researchers themselves. Edited October 5, 2020 by GroveHillWanderer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupert the bear Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 astraneneca/oxford uni has the innoculation at phase 3.its in mass production,a full article is available in UK press ,look at the guardian for instance or on the other hand express.the gov has set out a plan already to give it to OAP homes then hospital staff then over 75s.so the infrastuctures there.they estimate to innoculate the total pop in 3 mnths!so that is why i posted what i did,some of the replies are informative and intelligent some far from it.some funny re russia but we are a bit off topic there!its an important question that needs to be asked and unfortunately many of us have had experience with the wiles of the UK embassy.the inconsistancies of the thai govt.we all wish to get back to work ,relationships etc and have our old lives back asap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PingRoundTheWorld Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 10/4/2020 at 11:35 AM, Don Mega said: What inoculation are you talking about ? The UK have only just started phase 3 of their coronavirus vaccine trial, doubt anything will be available to anybody "shortly". AstraZeneca started phase 3 beginning of September. So did Moderna, Pfizer, and a few others. Without unforeseen delays (political included) they're all likely to have enough safety data to apply for approval within 1-2 months from now. Mass inoculations may already start before the end of the year, at least in countries where the issue isn't politicized. The European Medicines Agency already started a rolling review (meaning they'll review data as they receive it, accelerating the approval process) of AstraZeneca's vaccine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 19 hours ago, howerde said: Doesn't that mean years for proof? other vaccines have taken 8 years of trials before being distributed Exactly. The first company to put one out will be minting it, but I won't be having it till proven safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 10/4/2020 at 5:31 PM, rupert the bear said: in light of the fact that the uk govt will have a shot available for all citizens shortly If one comes out any time this year you can have it if you can get it, but many of us will be waiting to see if it's safe before we have it- probably in late 2021 or 2022. Chances are there will be a vaccine- the profits will be enormous, but unsafe vaccines have been used before, far as I remember. Google "unsafe vaccine" to find out more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) As the topic was posted in the Q&A – ask the Consular Team section, I expect he was hoping for a reply from the Consular Team Edited October 5, 2020 by chickenslegs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch5163 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) On 10/5/2020 at 11:10 AM, chickenslegs said: As the topic was posted in the Q&A – ask the Consular Team section, I expect he was hoping for a reply from the Consular Team What you mean your not happy with the Sudo Consular Experts answers.......lol Edited October 11, 2020 by stretch5163 spelling error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 This topic is closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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