Just Wondering

[mads]

Hi all

I have a site that I almost visit daily, its not banned in Thailand and doesnt have sex on it.

One thing that made me wondered was when i wanted to go to a page on the site it got stuck

for awhile and I see in the bottom right corner of my browser (firefox) "read.w3.mict.go.th"

this seems kinda odd, are they redirecting all traffic through some servers at the ict ?

Any one knows ?

Cheers

[britmaveric]

Yes - all is monitored or reported.

[DrFisher]

If you saw .w3.mict.go.th that means it is blocked and reported but nothing to worry about.

[mads]

If you saw .w3.mict.go.th that means it is blocked and reported but nothing to worry about.

No the site is not reported or banned for that matter, I have no problems in using the site without various proxies etc.

Just wondered if they are monitoring all our internet usage. I just noticed this in the bottom of my screen, it was not

the usual page but more looked to me like it was redirecting traffic through them and then after a few moments i got the

through.

[nikster]

If you saw .w3.mict.go.th that means it is blocked and reported but nothing to worry about.

Yep, nothing to worry at all. Big brother knows best.

[mouse]

Not only that, I also suspect that many times when we discuss things on the varied forums, within weeks, sometimes even days, varied rules seems to appear that fix circumventions that are mentioned on the net in the first place. Makes you think!!

[astral]

Big Brother is watching.

I saw a programme on TV recently which showed the massive computers they have in the US

for monitoring internet traffic, searching for words like bomb, terror etc.

Quite frightening really.

[nikster]

Big Brother is watching.

I saw a programme on TV recently which showed the massive computers they have in the US

for monitoring internet traffic, searching for words like bomb, terror etc.

Quite frightening really.

The USA have been monitoring all data traffic between Europe and the US for a long time. Not just internet, also phone calls etc. The project was called Echelon. In the new world, I am pretty sure they monitor even more.

What I find amusing is that for all that effort, they have preciously little to show for it. Obviously, since any terrorist with half a brain can use military strength encryption or even just simple keyword replacement like calling a bomb a package. It's not hard. It's a system that is very hard and expensive to implement, yet very easy and cheap to get around.

I recently read about new simple tricks terrorists use to hide information. For example, they open a free webmail account, which they can access over https - yahoo, hotmail, gmail. Then they share the login/pass with others. Then they write messages, but don't send them off - instead, they get saved in the webmail's drafts folder. Voila, you can exchange messages with your terrorist friends safe from prying eyes. The emails never go anywhere so they can't be intercepted. And people look at them through https which is encrypted so the data never leaves the servers unencrypted.

[CobraSnakeNecktie]

Big Brother is watching.

I saw a programme on TV recently which showed the massive computers they have in the US

for monitoring internet traffic, searching for words like bomb, terror etc.

Quite frightening really.

The USA have been monitoring all data traffic between Europe and the US for a long time. Not just internet, also phone calls etc. The project was called Echelon. In the new world, I am pretty sure they monitor even more.

What I find amusing is that for all that effort, they have preciously little to show for it. Obviously, since any terrorist with half a brain can use military strength encryption or even just simple keyword replacement like calling a bomb a package. It's not hard. It's a system that is very hard and expensive to implement, yet very easy and cheap to get around.

I recently read about new simple tricks terrorists use to hide information. For example, they open a free webmail account, which they can access over https - yahoo, hotmail, gmail. Then they share the login/pass with others. Then they write messages, but don't send them off - instead, they get saved in the webmail's drafts folder. Voila, you can exchange messages with your terrorist friends safe from prying eyes. The emails never go anywhere so they can't be intercepted. And people look at them through https which is encrypted so the data never leaves the servers unencrypted.

Thats a pretty old trick and if I remember correctly was used during the 9/11 attack.

Thailand is too inept to do any real monitoring. They have trouble with basic things like getting to people to drive safely and building airports.

If you want to see the possible scary future of internet control and monitoring then look to the north and what China has accomplished. I am surprised people focus on the US at all when China is eon's ahead in this field.

I want to post a link to an article about this but seems like lately the TV admins forbid this. seems strange to restrict the sharing of information. Will post it anyway.

www.rfa.org/english/news/politics/2003/11/13/120617/

Technical/Information links like that are fine.

It is spam links to your own commercial site that we frown upon.

Astral

Moderator

[h90]

Its all just for your best......

human rights are past.......now protection against terrorists.

For the definition of what is a terrorist our lifesavers at the gouverments will take care.....

not only Thailand, also Germany, USA, Japan and and and

They try to make cuba and china looking like liberal countries.....

[Kyosuken]

big difference is that they are clever enough to not show you that they are monitoring (i mean other countries than Thailand) and they don't randomly block access to websites too

[CobraSnakeNecktie]

Its all just for your best......

human rights are past.......now protection against terrorists.

For the definition of what is a terrorist our lifesavers at the gouverments will take care.....

not only Thailand, also Germany, USA, Japan and and and

They try to make cuba and china looking like liberal countries.....

You might want to visit either country. China or Cuba that is and get a clue.

[h90]

Its all just for your best......

human rights are past.......now protection against terrorists.

For the definition of what is a terrorist our lifesavers at the gouverments will take care.....

not only Thailand, also Germany, USA, Japan and and and

They try to make cuba and china looking like liberal countries.....

You might want to visit either country. China or Cuba that is and get a clue.

I visited China, but I didn't visit Guatanamo and Irak yet to check out how liberal it is there.....

Forgot to mention that Internet is also restricted for US troops, so noone can upload something which may harm their reputation......

[CobraSnakeNecktie]

Its all just for your best......

human rights are past.......now protection against terrorists.

For the definition of what is a terrorist our lifesavers at the gouverments will take care.....

not only Thailand, also Germany, USA, Japan and and and

They try to make cuba and china looking like liberal countries.....

You might want to visit either country. China or Cuba that is and get a clue.

I visited China, but I didn't visit Guatanamo and Irak yet to check out how liberal it is there.....

Forgot to mention that Internet is also restricted for US troops, so noone can upload something which may harm their reputation......

Yeah you got me there. In China and Cuba they let all their soldiers have unlimited freedom on the internet. Maybe that is why Cubans will risk their lives to float to Florida and why they have the highest suicide rate in the Americas.... Too many liberal freedoms and they can't handle it....

[dave_boo]

Its all just for your best......

human rights are past.......now protection against terrorists.

For the definition of what is a terrorist our lifesavers at the gouverments will take care.....

not only Thailand, also Germany, USA, Japan and and and

They try to make cuba and china looking like liberal countries.....

You might want to visit either country. China or Cuba that is and get a clue.

I visited China, but I didn't visit Guatanamo and Irak yet to check out how liberal it is there.....

Forgot to mention that Internet is also restricted for US troops, so noone can upload something which may harm their reputation......

LOL, you're off about your assertion that the internet is restricted to US troops. Working there, I had access to KBR's link (which was routed through London before going to Houston), and I had a wifi connection to a person running a Hughes satellite (and IIRC, that got its uplink in Germany).