danone Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 or do certain groups give certain spins again? i consider a new coup as highly unlikely - but what do i know? anybody with a better feeling about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkandrew Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 or do certain groups give certain spins again?i consider a new coup as highly unlikely - but what do i know? anybody with a better feeling about it? It will happen on Wednesday the 30th/Thursday 31st May. I intend to fly out on the 27th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Hmmm I should fly up to BKK with my camera! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 (edited) Hmmm. How tiresome. Another coup. Will it even make the international press this time? Can't they try something different, like an election? Or maybe a really big Chinese circus? With panda bears? Is this going to one of those Hey, Meet the New General, Same as the Old General kind of dealies? Edited May 21, 2007 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneman Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 or do certain groups give certain spins again?i consider a new coup as highly unlikely - but what do i know? anybody with a better feeling about it? IMHO there is a better than 50/50 chance for another coup..Yes the ruling on May 30th could certainly set off some very large civil protests that may need to be suppressed which could cause the need for another coup... But I still believe that the junta leaders have serious doubts that they can charge Toxin with anything that even remotely can be believed by the masses of common folks that are the backbone of the TRT. And if they can't pin something on him and convict him before the scheduled election, there has to be another coup, because if the election was held, his TRT party(even under a new name) will carry the north..and have control of the govt again. I just don't see Toxin sitting in England and going to a soccer game every weekend for the rest of his life.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I agree, there is still lots to "resolve" and whatever decisions they make will displease lots of people. When I said "Chinese" circus, I was being cryptic, get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kratindaeng Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 or do certain groups give certain spins again?i consider a new coup as highly unlikely - but what do i know? anybody with a better feeling about it? It will happen on Wednesday the 30th/Thursday 31st May. I intend to fly out on the 27th... do you know roughly what time the tanks will appear? I need some good photos for the Daily Mirror! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeaceBlondie Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I really am flying out of BKK on the 28th, returning June 12. It is scary to consider sitting around the Emerald Isle trying to enjoy myself whilst wondering what I'll be returning to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Pretty much the same thing you left ... don't sweat it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travel2003 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 or do certain groups give certain spins again?i consider a new coup as highly unlikely - but what do i know? anybody with a better feeling about it? IMHO there is a better than 50/50 chance for another coup..Yes the ruling on May 30th could certainly set off some very large civil protests that may need to be suppressed which could cause the need for another coup... But I still believe that the junta leaders have serious doubts that they can charge Toxin with anything that even remotely can be believed by the masses of common folks that are the backbone of the TRT. And if they can't pin something on him and convict him before the scheduled election, there has to be another coup, because if the election was held, his TRT party(even under a new name) will carry the north..and have control of the govt again. I just don't see Toxin sitting in England and going to a soccer game every weekend for the rest of his life.. Toxin did change some of the laws to fit him, just as many of his predecessors have done during the last 70 years. Guess the present junta can (and will) do the same then, and voila, they can get Toxin on whatever they want. rgds Sailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bingobongo Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 ok, so which is it? Surayud says no coup but defense chief declares possibility of coup Thailand Dismisses Threat Of Another Coup http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7007408738 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkandrew Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 ok, so which is it? Surayud says no coup but defense chief declares possibility of coupThailand Dismisses Threat Of Another Coup http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7007408738 I have found it!!! The junta's official song: in out shake it all about. Do the Hokey-Cokey and you turn around That's what it's all about. I like Cokey I like Cokey I like Cokey Knees bent arms stretched rah rah rah. Put your right leg in your right leg out In out in out shake it all about. . . . Put your left arm in your left arm out In out in out shake it all about. . . . Put your right arm in your right arm out In out in out shake it all about. . . . I like Cokey I like Cokey I like Cokey Knees bent arms stretched rah rah rah. Put your whole self in your whole self out In out in out shake it all about. . . . I like Cokey I like Cokey I like Cokey Knees bent arms stretched rah rah rah. All together now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimjim Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I'd like access to your inside information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryp Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 It has been said since January that June was going to be the dangerous month for any unrest & sadly possible problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimjim Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 (edited) I don't see how anyone could claim it will be like the 1992 incident. This military coup was led by someone who is close to His Majesty and that Black May incident was severely denounced by the monarchy. So why would it happen again? Probably not. Another coup, possible. Why? Well I think most are referring to the fact that TRT is expected to be dissolved around the end of May by a court. This will somehow lead to a coup according to some due to the unrest likely to be caused. I think the Democrat party is in danger also. I have no idea. Thailand could certainly be increasingly seen in the international world as largely regressing and becoming more like it's Myanmar neighbor if a return to democracy isn't seen by 2008. But in practice, no matter what happens, it will still be a much more open country than the old Burma. Edited May 22, 2007 by Jimjim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danone Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 the remaining influence of TRT is overestimated. and court procedures against thaksin proceed, albeit slowly. he obviously gets nervous. the whole manchester city thingy is a setup to divert attention. which sane football club wants itself to be bought by a disgraced leader who couldnt even properly explain where the money comes from? so, if thaksin really gets pushed over the brink, maybe in a last attempt to save himself it will be less costly for him to finance an instigation/coup. lots of people lost lot of money with the coup. they dont want to lose even more. if the junta just would speed up things ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakanong Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 or do certain groups give certain spins again?i consider a new coup as highly unlikely - but what do i know? anybody with a better feeling about it? It will happen on Wednesday the 30th/Thursday 31st May. I intend to fly out on the 27th... It will be my luck to happen just as I arrive ;-) Is it a holiday in Thailand on the 31st? Its a Buddha holiday in Singapore - Visak Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakanong Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 I don't see how anyone could claim it will be like the 1992 incident. This military coup was led by someone who is close to His Majesty and that Black May incident was severely denounced by the monarchy. So why would it happen again? Probably not.Another coup, possible. Why? Well I think most are referring to the fact that TRT is expected to be dissolved around the end of May by a court. This will somehow lead to a coup according to some due to the unrest likely to be caused. I think the Democrat party is in danger also. I have no idea. Thailand could certainly be increasingly seen in the international world as largely regressing and becoming more like it's Myanmar neighbor if a return to democracy isn't seen by 2008. But in practice, no matter what happens, it will still be a much more open country than the old Burma. Well without getting into things we can not talk about I do think it is early to be talking in the same language as May 92 just now. Another coup in terms of the current PM being removed and Sonthi appointed is not without possiblity though - use of the term crisis anyone (they might say economic but thats another thread) ;-))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakanong Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 the remaining influence of TRT is overestimated.and court procedures against thaksin proceed, albeit slowly. he obviously gets nervous. the whole manchester city thingy is a setup to divert attention. which sane football club wants itself to be bought by a disgraced leader who couldnt even properly explain where the money comes from? so, if thaksin really gets pushed over the brink, maybe in a last attempt to save himself it will be less costly for him to finance an instigation/coup. lots of people lost lot of money with the coup. they dont want to lose even more. if the junta just would speed up things ... Well the money came from Temasek who bought the Shin Group??? If you listen to Man City supporters on phone in's live Radio 5 606 and other postings they seem excited that Thaksin might buy the club and the talk of a genuine world class manager plus new players. Yes I agree Thaksin might be buying the club to keep his profile up - the EPL is massive worldwide and one of the reasons American big money is flowing in too (as well as Russian and Icelandic) - it has a worldwide audience like no other sport Then it might not be a bad investment either - look at how much the price of other clubs have gone up. Thaksin might have made a shrewd move here but we need to see the colour of his money first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 (they might say economic but thats another thread) ;-))) At least we can expect the Thai Baht to strengthen even more after another coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baabaabobo Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 ok, so which is it? Surayud says no coup but defense chief declares possibility of coupThailand Dismisses Threat Of Another Coup http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7007408738 I have found it!!! The junta's official song: in out shake it all about. Do the Hokey-Cokey and you turn around That's what it's all about. I like Cokey I like Cokey I like Cokey Knees bent arms stretched rah rah rah. Put your right leg in your right leg out In out in out shake it all about. . . . Put your left arm in your left arm out In out in out shake it all about. . . . Put your right arm in your right arm out In out in out shake it all about. . . . I like Cokey I like Cokey I like Cokey Knees bent arms stretched rah rah rah. Put your whole self in your whole self out In out in out shake it all about. . . . I like Cokey I like Cokey I like Cokey Knees bent arms stretched rah rah rah. All together now? And don't forget the little dance that goes with it - "One step forward Three steps back - One step forward Three steps back - One step forward Three steps back" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakanong Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 (they might say economic but thats another thread) ;-))) At least we can expect the Thai Baht to strengthen even more after another coup. LOL - lets not go there ;-) As long as the bar's, clubs, shops and restaurants are open for my long weekend ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmart Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Thaksin wanted to buy Liverpool a couple of years ago (with taxpayer's money) as they seem to be the most popular EPL club with Thai fans. He is maintaining his profile and publicity at a high level whatever his real intentions with Man City FC. Btw, buying EPL clubs with plundered money in nothing new. Look at Abramovich, etc. The guy is laundering money through the transfer market, paying distorted prices for players, etc. The new world order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanchao Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 (edited) What do you mean 'another coup'... At any time they like, Sonthi / Prem can just inform Surayud that he doesn't have to come to work on Monday, thank you for your services, and that'll be it. So keep that in mind, everyone contemplating making a killing on selling flowers to stick on tanks. Edited May 22, 2007 by chanchao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakanong Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 What do you mean 'another coup'... At any time they like, Sonthi / Prem can just inform Surayud that he doesn't have to come to work on Monday, thank you for your services, and that'll be it. So keep that in mind, everyone contemplating making a killing on selling flowers to stick on tanks. Thats what I can see as you said above rather than a Black May situation as some would like to see so they could say told you so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Is it a holiday in Thailand on the 31st?Its a Buddha holiday in Singapore - Visak Day Yes, it's a public holiday on the 31st - Visakha Bucha Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakanong Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Is it a holiday in Thailand on the 31st?Its a Buddha holiday in Singapore - Visak Day Yes, it's a public holiday on the 31st - Visakha Bucha Day. Thanks for the confirmation - when I saw it was a Buddha holiday here I did suspect it would be in Thailand too. Probably no new shirts or glasses made this trip then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiakaha Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 About time. The traffic is killing me and I need those tanks to block off a few streets in the CBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanchao Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 What do you mean 'another coup'... At any time they like, Sonthi / Prem can just inform Surayud that he doesn't have to come to work on Monday, thank you for your services, and that'll be it. So keep that in mind, everyone contemplating making a killing on selling flowers to stick on tanks. Thats what I can see as you said above rather than a Black May situation as some would like to see so they could say told you so. Oh, a Black May type of scenario may still happen after that at some stage. The main decider there will be if the military will stall the constitution drafting or election process. And I don't think anyone would get any joy out of seeing that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakanong Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 What do you mean 'another coup'... At any time they like, Sonthi / Prem can just inform Surayud that he doesn't have to come to work on Monday, thank you for your services, and that'll be it. So keep that in mind, everyone contemplating making a killing on selling flowers to stick on tanks. Thats what I can see as you said above rather than a Black May situation as some would like to see so they could say told you so. Oh, a Black May type of scenario may still happen after that at some stage. The main decider there will be if the military will stall the constitution drafting or election process. And I don't think anyone would get any joy out of seeing that happen. Yes but the forces do not seem to be bult up for that to happen May 30/31st this year as Tud gleefully pronounces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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