Do you believe that you can survive an all-out global thermo-nuclear war?

[connda]

Literally every day, I'm now hearing commentary about nuclear war.  It's everywhere.  It's reflective of the reality that war is being conducted, or is being planned for the future, pretty much across the globe and entails the participation of all of the nuclear "power-players" on the planet.   So some people think that global thermo-nuclear war will be survivable by segments of the general population.  Others, like myself, believe that the general population will not survive. 

So, what do you think:  If we have an all-out global, strategic thermo-nuclear war - do you believe that it's survivable? 

Do you believe that you can personally survive?
I'm purposefully limiting the answers to "Yes" or "No."  Pick one and let us know the rationale for your choice. 

[AreYouGerman]

Everybody Dies.

 

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1520/DEFCON/

 

 

[Gottfrid]

Found this under the question and found it suitable

[rabas]

16 hours ago, AreYouGerman said:

Everybody Dies.

 

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1520/DEFCON/

 

You have no proof that's true for people alive today. 

 

Me, I will be converted to AI and put in a lead-lined carbon-steel thumb drive. 

[impulse]

27 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

You have no proof that's true for people alive today. 

 

Me, I will be converted to AI and put in a lead-lined carbon-steel thumb drive. 

 

Dont'cha need electricity to run a thumb drive?  And won't the grid be down from all the EMP's?  Better build a hardened solar array and hope the glass doesn't melt.

 

I stand by my comment from a few months ago...  Most of the people that think they'll be in the subset of survivors of the Big One will be sorely disappointed.  For a few nano-seconds.  They'll be the lucky ones... 

 

The rest of us peons will suffer horrendous painful burns, blindness, and starvation for months before we succumb. 

 

On an aside, gaining back a few hundred square miles, already lost, in Eastern Europe hardly seems worth the risk.

 

[connda]

"But but but.....we never saw it coming."

 

[jas007]

It’s hard for me to imagine that there are groups of people actively planning and hoping for a nuclear war.  What are they thinking ?  
 

Do they think that in the aftermath they’ll still have electricity? Heat for their homes? Do they think their cars will be usable? What are they going to eat? Even the

 billionaires with underground bunkers will probably wish they were dead.  
 

Perhaps some humans will survive.  Isolated tribes in Africa or in the Amazon rainforest.  People that don’t depend on the grid or industrialized farming.  The rest of the world will be a real disaster.

[peterrabbit]

From what I have read about nuclear war and the resulting nuclear winter:-

 

5% of the world population dies in the fireballs and radiation exposure.
90% die of starvation over the next 24 months due to the drop in solar radiation resulting in the failure of all crops.

As the survivors start to starve all society breaks down.

To survive you would need to have enough food and water to last for years and seeds to replant later, and enough bullets to fight off any starving survivors. 

 

So unless you have your own private island with useable land and water and the knowledge and tools to farm and the weapons to defend it you will either starve or be on someone's menu. 

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

Shouldn't that be "would you want to survive all out nuclear war?"

I wouldn't.

[DaLa]

Yes. I once survived a Chicken Vindaloo and 8 pints of Guinness, so anythings possible.  On a serious note there isn't a weapon on earth that's only been used once in a fight (war); I can't see a Nuclear weapon being an exception unfortunately.

[novacova]

On 6/9/2024 at 8:20 PM, connda said:

So, what do you think:

I’m the least bit concerned about it.

On 6/9/2024 at 8:20 PM, connda said:

do you believe that it's survivable?

Dwelling and worrying about it will probably more likely cause an early death from stress before the bomb arrives.

[retarius]

I've had my three score and ten years. I am not really interested whether I survive a nuclear war or not, all I desire is that I go quickly, before things get ugly, with an early full on strike. I have zero desire to fight for survival at my age. On a tangential issue, I find I am always shocked by the notion that our leadership (I mean the Western political leaders and pundits) would so enthusiastically and untruthfully lead us into the situation where, I for one, cannot see us not having WW3 in the next 3 years. Only continual restraint by Russia is keeping us out of such a war today. I cannot see that relying on Russia to keep yielding is going to win any prizes in the survival of the species reality show. 

[KhunLA]

yes

[Celsius]

I complain about everything from food to mattress, so I don't think I would survive.

 

Maybe someone who lives in Nirun wud?

[Jingthing]

Many people are saying that injecting bleach and taking horse tranquilizers counters the radiation. 

[Gweiloman]

16 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Many people are saying that injecting bleach and taking horse tranquilizers counters the radiation. 

Yes, it was suggested by the leader of a certain exceptional country. Undeniable proof of the average intellect of its citizens, voting such a genius into the top job. Rumour has it that the average intellect has deteriorated/increased? as this genus might be voted in again.

[Stocky]

No - why would you want to?

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Yes, it was suggested by the leader of a certain exceptional country. Undeniable proof of the average intellect of its citizens, voting such a genius into the top job. Rumour has it that the average intellect has deteriorated/increased? as this genus might be voted in again.

Couple of posters with TDS apparently. We know they have TDS because they keep talking about Trump in topics that have nothing to do with him.

[VBer]

I have read some research, according to it everything depends of number of warheads to being used. The predicted value is 10-15%.

This petty low number is predicted because of various reasons: not all nuclear countries are in conflict, some warheads are destroyed because them are the primary target,not all warheads will work, not all waheads are moved from “cold storage”, some warheads will be shot down.

if assume that the 10-15% will be correct, the prognosis is this:

- northern hemisphere: complete death because of temperatures are -50 for 2 winters

-Thailand altitude: two winters with temperatures around -15 to -5 (depending on 15% or 10% of warheads usage). Theoretically survivable. 

[Seppius]

100% I will survive, been watching Fallout

 

 

[DonniePeverley]

Will Nana Plaza still be open ?

[Gweiloman]

7 hours ago, VBer said:

I have read some research, according to it everything depends of number of warheads to being used. The predicted value is 10-15%.

This petty low number is predicted because of various reasons: not all nuclear countries are in conflict, some warheads are destroyed because them are the primary target,not all warheads will work, not all waheads are moved from “cold storage”, some warheads will be shot down.

if assume that the 10-15% will be correct, the prognosis is this:

- northern hemisphere: complete death because of temperatures are -50 for 2 winters

-Thailand altitude: two winters with temperatures around -15 to -5 (depending on 15% or 10% of warheads usage). Theoretically survivable. 

I could live with that. I still have plenty of winter clothing. My main concern is sunshine. Will my solar system get enough to continue charging my car?

[thaibeachlovers]

23 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

Will Nana Plaza still be open ?

That's going to be one amazing closing down party.

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

I could live with that. I still have plenty of winter clothing. My main concern is sunshine. Will my solar system get enough to continue charging my car?

Read up on nuclear winter

[DaLa]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Read up on nuclear winter

I have , and it's nowt compared to an English winter in t'north of England. Snow was up to our eyes in depth, we had icicles hanging from our noses and retained 7 layers of clothing for 8 months non stop. We all slept in one bed and shared 1 hot water bottle for warmth which we topped up with weewee during the night. Some nights we would all climb in the fridge because it was warmer and during the day we would take the doors off the rooms and burn them to thaw out.

 

Wonderful memories, the 50's in the UK were glorious times. 

[thaibeachlovers]

21 hours ago, DaLa said:

I have , and it's nowt compared to an English winter in t'north of England. Snow was up to our eyes in depth, we had icicles hanging from our noses and retained 7 layers of clothing for 8 months non stop. We all slept in one bed and shared 1 hot water bottle for warmth which we topped up with weewee during the night. Some nights we would all climb in the fridge because it was warmer and during the day we would take the doors off the rooms and burn them to thaw out.

 

Wonderful memories, the 50's in the UK were glorious times. 

Monty Python was great; loved that sketch.

[connda]

I now say that the Atomic Doomsday Clock is about 15 seconds from midnight.  We are wayyyy past where we were during the Cuban Missile Crisis when I was doing "duck and cover" drills under my classroom desk.  That was futile - we lived on a SAC base and would have been vaporized.  I "ducked" nuclear annihilation in 1962, I don't think we make it though 2024.  Why?  "Russia's bluffing," is going to get us all killed.  Which in the minds of the billionaire psychopaths on this planet may actually be the point.  If the airways still work after the first EMPs what you'd hear from the MSM pundits when shtf is "We never saw this coming...."  Willful ignorance is bliss.

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, connda said:

Which in the minds of the billionaire psychopaths on this planet may actually be the point. 

Should the last war result, and I somehow survive, I'll be sure to have a little welcome back party for them as they emerge from their bunkers thinking they will have a world without all us inconvenient peasants.