452 Too Many Recipients Received This Hour

[Bredbury Blue]

I send out a newsletter using my loxinfo account down my TOT ADSL line. If i send to too many receipients (looks like 50 per hour) i get a "452 Too many recipients received this hour" message and a list of the email addresses it didn't send to.

I've checked with Loxinfo and they say not their problem. Got no where with TOT.

Anybody know anything about this and how to unlimit the emails?

[londonthai]

get gmail.com free email address - reliable and with 3gb space

[OxfordWill]

Can you change to send out 45 per hour and send to the whole list over 5 hours or so?

If not, send through an smtp server - buy a cheap hosting account somewhere and just use that to send your mail. Then it wont go through loxinfo

[Bredbury Blue]

Can you change to send out 45 per hour and send to the whole list over 5 hours or so?

If not, send through an smtp server - buy a cheap hosting account somewhere and just use that to send your mail. Then it wont go through loxinfo

I send through tot smtp and receive through loxinfo, loxinfo say its a tot problem. Whether i send one message to 300 recipients or email batches to 40-50 per hour, its the same problem, it seems to allow me to send to 50 people in one hour. Anybody know anything about this and how to fix it so i can send unlimited emails?

[Crossy]

IIRC you've had a similar problem before

It's all down to your outgoing ISP limiting sent messages in order to avoid spammers using their system. If you have an industrial strength ADSL account the ISP ought to be able to remove the limits for you, moan some more

There are a number of options many of which were discussed in your previous thread. Unfortunately all will have issues at one point or another. For example.

1. Try opening an account at hotpop.com, I'm not sure if they limit outgoing mails though.
   
2. Run your own SMTP server on your PC. eg QK SMTP from http://www.qksoft.com/ This solution removes all sending restrictions, however if you have a dynamic IP address from your ISP SOME receiving servers will reject your mail
   

[Bredbury Blue]

IIRC you've had a similar problem before

It's all down to your outgoing ISP limiting sent messages in order to avoid spammers using their system. If you have an industrial strength ADSL account the ISP ought to be able to remove the limits for you, moan some more

There are a number of options many of which were discussed in your previous thread. Unfortunately all will have issues at one point or another. For example.

1. Try opening an account at hotpop.com, I'm not sure if they limit outgoing mails though.
   
2. Run your own SMTP server on your PC. eg QK SMTP from http://www.qksoft.com/ This solution removes all sending restrictions, however if you have a dynamic IP address from your ISP SOME receiving servers will reject your mail
   

That's all very good advice and i really wish i had the technical nouce to understand it. Can you explain it slowly cause i'm a QS. "Run your own SMTP server on your PC. eg QK SMTP from http://www.qksoft.com/ This solution removes all sending restrictions, however if you have a dynamic IP address from your ISP SOME receiving servers will reject your mail " What does that all mean in laymeans angrit?

[Gary A]

Maybe that's a good thing. Anyone sending that many emails is VERY likely sending SPAM.

[Bredbury Blue]

Maybe that's a good thing. Anyone sending that many emails is VERY likely sending SPAM.

WRONG!!! May i suggest if you have nothing constructive to say, you say nothing.

My email goes out to people who want it and contribute to it, those who don't want it let me know and do not receive it again.

I haven't found the solution yet, loxinfo and TOT say its not them, however when you get one of these 452 messages which lists all those who didn't receive the email, at the top of the message on the tool bar it says "send again", press that and it will send and if it comes back you repeat the process to all are reached - painful but effective.

It seems to me like an Outlook 2003 problem (anti-spam limit).

[george]

I would recommend you to use a third party provider for your legitimate, opt-in bulk emails. Thaivisa are using http://www.ymlp.com since many years, and its a fantastic service.

[Bredbury Blue]

I would recommend you to use a third party provider for your legitimate, opt-in bulk emails. Thaivisa are using http://www.ymlp.com since many years, and its a fantastic service.

Thanks George, that service looks real interesting and i'll probably go that route. Appreciate it.

[OxfordWill]

Yup I already gave you the solution.. use an smtp server (not the ISPs). George's idea is also good but if you dont want opt in (requirement for such services usually) and you dont want to change your platform from local (using your computer and its software) to foreign (using their website and their databases and relying on their uptime) then go for a cheap hosting account somewhere and check beforehand what their sending limits are per domain/account. Usually higher than 50.

Edited August 18, 2007 by OxfordWill

[nikster]

In theory using your own SMTP server solves all problems.

In practice, however, such emails get blocked by many mail servers - they'll block any emails from unknown domains. The problem is that you don't get any feedback when that happens so you might think your emails arrive while in reality they don't.

Using a professional service is the way to go.

[OxfordWill]

Gonna have to disagree again here.. I reckon you're gonna have more problems with using a "professional" service. Let's look at the problems offered by both options and the possible solutions:

Possible problems using remote SMTP:

A1) Foreign smtp spam protection

Possible problems using professional service:

1) Typically forced to opt in (may or may not be a problem)

2) Costs more

3) Have to learn a new system

4) Don't get to keep your data as secure as you might like

5) Dont get to use your own systems for management and reporting

Solutions to using SMTP problems:

A1) Contact surbl and get your domain whitelisted (takes 24 hours at most)

Solutions to using professional service problems:

1) No solution, or shop around

2) No solution

3) No solution, compromise your requirements.

4) No solution, many stories of data getting ripped and sold

5) No solution.

Respectfully,

Will