March 7Mar 7 The US-led strikes on Iran have left Europe’s far-right parties in an uncomfortable bind — caught between loyalty to Donald Trump and fears of the war’s consequences for their own voters.Across the continent, nationalist movements that once cheered Trump’s return to power are now scrambling to reconcile pro-Israel rhetoric, anti-interventionist messaging and the looming threat of energy shocks and migration pressures.Orbán’s Silence Breaks — CarefullyThe most striking response initially came from Viktor Orbán and his ruling Fidesz party in Hungary.Orbán, who has frequently praised Trump as a “peacemaker,” avoided condemning or endorsing the strikes in the first days of the conflict. Facing mounting questions, he later reframed the bombing campaign as the “final elimination” of a long-standing crisis rather than the start of a new war.The careful wording reflects a balancing act: defending Trump while maintaining Orbán’s domestic “pro-peace” narrative.Italy’s Trump Admirers Face a DilemmaA similar tension is emerging inside Italy’s nationalist camp.Matteo Salvini — leader of Lega — has repeatedly championed Trump and even suggested he deserved a Nobel Peace Prize. Yet his party has long promoted non-interventionism, making support for a new Middle East war politically awkward.Party figures have instead emphasised diplomacy, while debate intensifies in Italy over whether US bases on Italian soil could be used in strikes against Iran.Germany’s AfD Warns of Energy and Migration ShockIn Germany, leaders of Alternative for Germany have openly warned about the fallout.Co-leaders Alice Weidel and Tino Chrupalla said renewed Middle East instability threatens German interests. Party figures have warned that a collapse of Iran could trigger migration waves and energy price spikes — two issues central to the far right’s political appeal.Le Pen Breaks Ranks Over LegalityFrance’s National Rally has gone further in its criticism.Leader Marine Le Pen and party president Jordan Bardella echoed concerns raised by Emmanuel Macron that the US strikes took place outside international law.Their argument: regime change imposed by air power rarely succeeds.Trump Alliance Starts to FrayElsewhere, pro-Trump parties including Vox in Spain, Party for Freedom in the Netherlands and Reform UK led by Nigel Farage remain broadly supportive — but are tailoring their messaging carefully for domestic audiences.Inside the European Parliament, far-right blocs are struggling to agree on a unified line.For movements that once rode Trump’s political momentum, the Iran war is exposing a growing reality: aligning with Washington’s confrontational foreign policy may now come with a domestic political cost.Europe’s far right is lost in Trump’s war against Iran
March 7Mar 7 44 minutes ago, bannork said:Germany’s AfD Warns of Energy and Migration ShockIn Germany, leaders of Alternative for Germany have openly warned about the fallout.Co-leaders Alice Weidel and Tino Chrupalla said renewed Middle East instability threatens German interests. Party figures have warned that a collapse of Iran could trigger migration waves and energy price spikes — two issues central to the far right’s political appeal.Indeed ! Al lot of "refugees" in europe are from US/israel aggression and regime change.
March 7Mar 7 Just to clarify, these European "far right" you speak of, are these the Europeans that do not want to have their countries, populations and culture replaced by military age male muslims and sharia? Or is there a better definition?
March 7Mar 7 Author 41 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:Just to clarify, these European "far right" you speak of, are these the Europeans that do not want to have their countries, populations and culture replaced by military age male muslims and sharia? Or is there a better definition?I think all Europeans bar some Muslims agree with your first sentence.A broader definition of the far right includes support for a strong welfare state but benefits restricted strictly to "native" citizens. Promotion of traditional family structures and gender roles, often opposing LGBTQ+ rights and abortion.Some opposition to green policies.
March 7Mar 7 12 minutes ago, bannork said:I think all Europeans bar some Muslims agree with your first sentence.A broader definition of the far right includes support for a strong welfare state but benefits restricted strictly to "native" citizens.Promotion of traditional family structures and gender roles, often opposing LGBTQ+ rights and abortion.Some opposition to green policies.Thanks. Sounds reasonable. But I think we should call the group you refer to as just sane rational folk.
March 7Mar 7 3 hours ago, bannork said:The US-led strikes on Iran have left Europe’s far-right parties in an uncomfortable bind — caught between loyalty to Donald Trump and fears of the war’s consequences for their own voters.Across the continent, nationalist movements that once cheered Trump’s return to power are now scrambling to reconcile pro-Israel rhetoric, anti-interventionist messaging and the looming threat of energy shocks and migration pressures.Orbán’s Silence Breaks — CarefullyThe most striking response initially came from Viktor Orbán and his ruling Fidesz party in Hungary.Orbán, who has frequently praised Trump as a “peacemaker,” avoided condemning or endorsing the strikes in the first days of the conflict. Facing mounting questions, he later reframed the bombing campaign as the “final elimination” of a long-standing crisis rather than the start of a new war.The careful wording reflects a balancing act: defending Trump while maintaining Orbán’s domestic “pro-peace” narrative.Italy’s Trump Admirers Face a DilemmaA similar tension is emerging inside Italy’s nationalist camp.Matteo Salvini — leader of Lega — has repeatedly championed Trump and even suggested he deserved a Nobel Peace Prize. Yet his party has long promoted non-interventionism, making support for a new Middle East war politically awkward.Party figures have instead emphasised diplomacy, while debate intensifies in Italy over whether US bases on Italian soil could be used in strikes against Iran.Germany’s AfD Warns of Energy and Migration ShockIn Germany, leaders of Alternative for Germany have openly warned about the fallout.Co-leaders Alice Weidel and Tino Chrupalla said renewed Middle East instability threatens German interests. Party figures have warned that a collapse of Iran could trigger migration waves and energy price spikes — two issues central to the far right’s political appeal.Le Pen Breaks Ranks Over LegalityFrance’s National Rally has gone further in its criticism.Leader Marine Le Pen and party president Jordan Bardella echoed concerns raised by Emmanuel Macron that the US strikes took place outside international law.Their argument: regime change imposed by air power rarely succeeds.Trump Alliance Starts to FrayElsewhere, pro-Trump parties including Vox in Spain, Party for Freedom in the Netherlands and Reform UK led by Nigel Farage remain broadly supportive — but are tailoring their messaging carefully for domestic audiences.Inside the European Parliament, far-right blocs are struggling to agree on a unified line.For movements that once rode Trump’s political momentum, the Iran war is exposing a growing reality: aligning with Washington’s confrontational foreign policy may now come with a domestic political cost.Europe’s far right is lost in Trump’s war against IranIn amongst all of this is the fact that the USA is headed by an idiot and has a team of idiots who support him and it gets worse......
March 7Mar 7 6 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:Just to clarify, these European "far right" you speak of, are these the Europeans that do not want to have their countries, populations and culture replaced by military age male muslims and sharia? Or is there a better definition?There's a better definition. For this mob, if its not muslims, its hindus. If its not hindus, its Africans. You work your way through the list until you reach the group they really don't like, and that's the Jews. Ultimately, for this lot, its always someone else's fault. It's an old story.Just look at the rubbish that came out of the mouth of Jean-Marie Le Pen when the old bugger was still breathing.We’ll do an oven load next timeIn France, at least the German occupation was not especially inhumane, even if there were a number of excesses - inevitable in a country of 550,000 square kilometres... If the Germans had carried out mass executions across the country as the received wisdom would have it, then there wouldn't have been any need for concentration camps for political deportees.I have said, and I repeat, at the risk of appearing sacrilegious, that the gas chambers are a detail of the history of the Second World War... If you take a book of a thousand pages on the Second World War, in which 50 million people died, the concentration camps occupy two pages and the gas chambers ten or 15 lines, and that's what's called a detail.His successors got very clever in not letting the mask drop. But occasionally the mask drops. They are snakes in the grass.https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/reform-uk-probes-campaign-manager-over-alleged-antisemitic-posts-ieiluicehttps://www.washingtonjewishweek.com/take-it-from-a-german-jew-the-afd-and-its-supporters-arent-making-jews-safer/Suddenly, they are all pro-Israel. I don't believe them for a single minute. Its a sham. An act.https://jppi.org.il/en/in-embracing-europes-far-right-israel-is-playing-with-fire/
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