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Accidental non-B overstay - which nearby embassy is most painless?

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I overstayed my non-B by 10 days. I already have a work permit. It's a 3-month non-B. I was supposed to extend it to 1 year but I lost track.

I have all of my company's documents and I am the only Director.

Which nearby embassy is going to be most painless? Last time I went to Lao and now they do the e-visa thing (maybe everywhere now?) and instead of being able to bring my documents to the embassy, it was a slow drip over many days where I had to submit and re-submit documents online.

I am hoping that because I already have my work permit that it will be easier. I know it was a big mistake (oversight) by me.

Where can I do this? Cambodia? Is Lao still better? Georgetown?

Thanks!!

12 minutes ago, bkk7 said:

I am hoping that because I already have my work permit that it will be easier.

I think you shouldn't expect that. The fact that you failed to get an extension and went on overstay may very well raise additional questions. Laos is probably still your best bet nearby, just don't expect an even smoother or faster process than previously.

1 hour ago, bkk7 said:

I have all of my company's documents and I am the only Director.

I assume that you are using the "Amity Agreement" if you are the sole Director.

Can the BOI not help you out?

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2 hours ago, Caldera said:

I think you shouldn't expect that. The fact that you failed to get an extension and went on overstay may very well raise additional questions. Laos is probably still your best bet nearby, just don't expect an even smoother or faster process than previously.

C'mon man, I'm not looking for someone to tell me what you want to hear, but you're not sharing any experience. You're just saying one of the infinite possibilities with zero actual thought behind it. Yes, it could be slower and more difficult process, or it could be faster and easier, or it could be exactly the same.

It's an overstay of a non-B with a work permit and I'm the Director, but you're making it out to be a grave crime. Could an immigration official think it's horrible and start an investigation? I guess? But, they could also see it for just a small oversight. So your comment doesn't add to the discussion. It's frustrating when people just say unhelpful things.

2 hours ago, bkk7 said:

It's an overstay of a non-B with a work permit and I'm the Director, but you're making it out to be a grave crime. Could an immigration official think it's horrible and start an investigation? I guess? But, they could also see it for just a small oversight.

@Tod Daniels might advise.

Thinking overstay is not main issue.

Will amount to fine.

More importantly is the way extensions from Non B are closed out.

Have you approached immigration office for advice.

Re which best place for eVisa.. Where are you located

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3 hours ago, bkk7 said:

It's an overstay of a non-B with a work permit and I'm the Director, but you're making it out to be a grave crime.

Your work permit is obviously void while you are on overstay. You cannot legally work in Thailand while on overstay. That IS actually quite a serious offense, but assuming that you already left Thailand and paid your overstay fine, that aspect is irrelevant moving forward - and wasn't the point I made.

The embassy will see your overstay stamp though and might question why you (1) failed to get an extension, (2) overstayed your visa and (3) now want a new visa. They might assume that you didn't meet immigration's requirements for an extension, because let's be honest, that would be the most common reason for not obtaining one. I'd be prepared to have a good explanation if asked, that's all.

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6 hours ago, bkk7 said:

I am the only Director.

Wow, don't quit your day job.

Here's the reply from reddit where you asked the exact same question....

"You don't have a work permit. You had a work permit. You did not extend the non-B so the workpermit is invalid now.

You need to reapply for everything again. Lesson learned I guess."

I was in a similar but not quite the same situation (I hadn't overstayed) but for various reasons couldn't extend my non B. I went to Vietnam and did the E-visa thing. No real problem except yes I had to provide additional information. The requests for the additional information were a bit confusing but I sent them everything I had rather than wait for them to ask for it. Make sure you have as much information with you when you get to whatever country you go to. The Saigon Embassy says it takes 5 working days to process the e-visa but in reality it is 5 days from when they have all the information. Good luck!

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20 hours ago, Celsius said:

Wow, don't quit your day job.

Here's the reply from reddit where you asked the exact same question....

"You don't have a work permit. You had a work permit. You did not extend the non-B so the workpermit is invalid now.

You need to reapply for everything again. Lesson learned I guess."

Cool, so you can read. Then you should know that Work Permits are NOT "voided" because you overstay your visa. That's not how it works. In Thailand, the Department of Employment (DOE) and the Immigration Bureau (IB) are separate entities with separate databases. They do not "ping" the immigration database every second to check your visa status. And as someone else replied on reddit, which I guess you saw already, the embassy website literally lists a work permit as an alternative to the WP3 work permit approval letter to apply for a non-B. So why, pray tell, would they list that as an alternative if it's already invalidated? Logic isn't your strong suit, I guess. So with that said, when I get back, don't come applying for a job because I won't hire you. You are clearly confusing the rule when companies terminate employees, thus ending their work permit status. But, I'm the boss, so I didn't terminate myself.

Unlike a visa, which gets an "ANNULLED" or "CANCELLED" stamp, a digital WP record is only changed through a formal administrative filing by the company director, who is me. Brb, I should go ask myself if I made a formal administrative filing to change my WP record.

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20 hours ago, Caldera said:

Your work permit is obviously void while you are on overstay. You cannot legally work in Thailand while on overstay. That IS actually quite a serious offense, but assuming that you already left Thailand and paid your overstay fine, that aspect is irrelevant moving forward - and wasn't the point I made.

The embassy will see your overstay stamp though and might question why you (1) failed to get an extension, (2) overstayed your visa and (3) now want a new visa. They might assume that you didn't meet immigration's requirements for an extension, because let's be honest, that would be the most common reason for not obtaining one. I'd be prepared to have a good explanation if asked, that's all.

No, it's not a "serious offense". Stop trolling.

Sure, the embassy might question why I "failed to get an extension, overstayed my visa and now want a new visa" - which you are attempting to separate into 3 distinct major issues when it's pretty simple and, you know, human: I didn't realize the date!

You're right, they might assume I didn't meet immigration's requirements for an extension, but in that case, I wouldn't meet them for a new visa either! So they might assume, and let's be honest here, that the other common reason is mine: people just forget dates sometimes!

I didn't come here to debate the validity of my work permit, and you're taking the discussion way off track. I came here to ask which consulate or embassy is quickest and easiest these days with non-Bs. I'm sorry you interpreted that as an invitation to debate whether or not I am totally <deleted> and if my work permit is canceled, when it's not. I didn't fire myself. I have all of my docs, paid SSO, payroll taxes, VAT, shareholders documents from DBD, bank statements etc.

Are you single, or divorced? Neither would surprise me.

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8 hours ago, Searunner said:

I was in a similar but not quite the same situation (I hadn't overstayed) but for various reasons couldn't extend my non B. I went to Vietnam and did the E-visa thing. No real problem except yes I had to provide additional information. The requests for the additional information were a bit confusing but I sent them everything I had rather than wait for them to ask for it. Make sure you have as much information with you when you get to whatever country you go to. The Saigon Embassy says it takes 5 working days to process the e-visa but in reality it is 5 days from when they have all the information. Good luck!

5 days sounds better than when I went to Vientiane for my first one (almost 2 weeks). so Vietnam sounds pretty reasonable. Thanks for actually answering my question unlike the boomers trying to spread misery and misinformation.

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21 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Non B is above my pay grade. @Tod Daniels might advise.

Thinking overstay is not main issue.

Will amount to fine.

More importantly is the way extensions from Non B are closed out.

Have you approached immigration office for advice.

Re which best place for eVisa.. Where are you located

Located in BKK so I can fly anywhere. I was considering Lao (again) or Vietnam. I had also ready Yangon, oddly enough...

I know my non-B can't be extended and I have to leave to get a new non-B now because of my oversight. I have all the docs though, so paying a fine isn't a big deal.

I have not gone to immigration because I don't want to turn this into a big issue and risk being "caught" on overstay when I'm heading out to get a new visa anyway. I know I can't extend inside the country any longer.

4 minutes ago, bkk7 said:

Located in BKK so I can fly anywhere. I was considering Lao (again) or Vietnam. I had also ready Yangon, oddly enough..

Thinking Lao or Vietnam your best option.

For evisa application in Lao you need to attend the embassy/consultant to make application payment.

Vietnam not so. I'm biased as I enjoy mini holidays in Saigon.

Hopefully first hand experience will be posted.

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24 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Thinking Lao or Vietnam your best option.

For evisa application in Lao you need to attend the embassy/consultant to make application payment.

Vietnam not so. I'm biased as I enjoy mini holidays in Saigon.

Hopefully first hand experience will be posted.

Oh! That's really convenient. I did have to go to make the in-person payment last time in Lao, which was super annoying, especially as it had to be made in Thai baht. How did you make the payment in Vietnam? Were you able to pay with Thai QR by any chance?

I will definitely share my experience after coming back.

2 minutes ago, bkk7 said:

I will definitely share my experience after coming back.

Please do.

You would be able to make payment via the usual debit/credit cards etc.

1 hour ago, bkk7 said:

You're right, they might assume I didn't meet immigration's requirements for an extension, but in that case, I wouldn't meet them for a new visa either!

That just shows that you don't really understand the requirements.

I'll leave it there, best of luck.

48 minutes ago, Caldera said:

That just shows that you don't really understand the requirements

Good idea. You and couple of others have attempted to post advice.

On other hand OP dishes rubbish replies.

2 hours ago, bkk7 said:

Oh! That's really convenient. I did have to go to make the in-person payment last time in Lao, which was super annoying, especially as it had to be made in Thai baht. How did you make the payment in Vietnam? Were you able to pay with Thai QR by any chance?

Payment by card only.

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16 hours ago, Caldera said:

That just shows that you don't really understand the requirements.

I'll leave it there, best of luck.

No, it shows you don't understand how work permits work. You leave it there because you're wrong.

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15 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Good idea. You and couple of others have attempted to post advice.

On other hand OP dishes rubbish replies.

They didn't though. They spread misinformation. What they said was factually wrong and off-topic.

If they attempted to post advice they would have answered the question about which embassy/consulate would be fastest/easiest because that's what I asked. I did not ask about my work permit, which is what they attempted to "advise" on - and their answers were actually wrong.

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3 hours ago, bkk7 said:

No, it shows you don't understand how work permits work. You leave it there because you're wrong.

Funny you should say that, I'm not the fool on overstay.

You need to learn to read and to understand what you read. The latter is obviously a lot harder than the former.

I didn't claim that your work permit is (or will be) canceled because you are on overstay. I said that your work permit is void while being on overstay. Big difference.

You're acting like a drunk driver caught at a DUI checkpoint who keeps protesting that he's got a valid driving license.

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On 4/22/2026 at 3:58 PM, Caldera said:

Funny you should say that, I'm not the fool on overstay.

You need to learn to read and to understand what you read. The latter is obviously a lot harder than the former.

I didn't claim that your work permit is (or will be) canceled because you are on overstay. I said that your work permit is void while being on overstay. Big difference.

You're acting like a drunk driver caught at a DUI checkpoint who keeps protesting that he's got a valid driving license.

Who said I was working while I was on overstay? I certainly didn't. So, in other words, if you were only commenting on my work permit being "void" while on overstay, you weren't even answering the question that was asked and were just chatting nonsense. Cool. And by the way, if you're going to be pissy about terms, void = canceled, as it implies 'ended'. The term you were looking for, if you wanted to actually be clear, since you were talking about a work permit issue that wasn't being asked about, you should have said 'temporarily not in effect' or 'suspended'. In legal and administrative contexts, "void" means the document is dead.

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On 4/21/2026 at 6:40 PM, DrJack54 said:

Please do.

You would be able to make payment via the usual debit/credit cards etc.

Well, I want to Savanakhet, and did the whole thing. It took almost an entire week to wait for processing, but absolutely no issues. They actually requested fewer documents than listed, probably because I gave them my work permit instead of just a request for my work permit. They accepted my request for my visa with me signing as director in the request. The worst part was the waiting, since these things take time. But being near the Thai border was easy as I could get by with my Thai everywhere I went, and people are friendly here.

So, in other words, no issues with my work permit. It wasn't "voided" as another user suggested.

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On 4/20/2026 at 9:33 PM, Celsius said:

Wow, don't quit your day job.

Here's the reply from reddit where you asked the exact same question....

"You don't have a work permit. You had a work permit. You did not extend the non-B so the workpermit is invalid now.

You need to reapply for everything again. Lesson learned I guess."

I am not afraid to admit when I am wrong. So I am coming back here to give an update and hope that you're of the same character. I did NOT need to "reapply for everything again" and my work permit is not "invalid". New non-B granted with my work permit used as proof. So, enjoy browsing reddit and trolling with misinformation when you don't know what you're talking about. And next time, don't try to answer questions that weren't asked. I was asking about which embassy/consulate is fastest/easiest, not anything to do with my work permit at all. Maybe if you'd stick to the question instead of trying to be a know-it-all you wouldn't come off as witless.

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On 4/21/2026 at 8:10 PM, DrJack54 said:

Good idea. You and couple of others have attempted to post advice.

On other hand OP dishes rubbish replies.

They didn't attempt to post advice though. A couple people made comments on a subject different to what was asked, acted as if they knew what they were talking about and turned out to be wrong. So... whose replies were actually rubbish?

35 minutes ago, bkk7 said:

They didn't attempt to post advice though

In a very short thread you have had over 20 negative emoji.

In any event you have the new Non B

Suggest keep eye on "permission of stamp" in future to avoid overstay.

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51 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

In a very short thread you have had over 20 negative emoji.

That says more about them than it does about me, considering the negative emojis I received were for saying people were wrong to tell me my Work Permit would need to be re-applied for or was 'void' when it turns out I was correct and they were wrong. They were just upset for me calling them out for bad information. Instead of admitting it, they dug their heels in and focused on something that wasn't asked. So I'm not sure why you're focused on me and my attitude instead of the people who were insisting they were right when they weren't right or on topic.

How can you use positive/negative emojis as a metric when the guy who said 'you don't have work permit. you had a work permit' and 'you need to reapply for everything' only got positive emojis (and followed me to reddit to make the same incorrect comments) and he was completely wrong? LOL

Definitely will not have the overstay again. It's already in my calendar.

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4 minutes ago, bkk7 said:

Definitely will not have the overstay again. It's already in my calendar.

Clever.

Re work permit. You are the one that emphasized that in OP.

It was irrelevant.

You received correct advice re process time in various countries.

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