I don't mean to be overly cynical but catching two overstayers in Phuket comes over as a drop in the ocean!

It sounds like a reasonable use of AI on the surface, but the article leaves out one pretty crucial detail — when and how were these images captured.

If the system flagged them after they were already in custody, that’s one thing. But if these cameras are scanning and identifying people as they go about their normal business in public, that’s a much bigger step toward blanket surveillance.

Overstayers should absolutely be dealt with, but the public deserves clarity on how these tools are being used and what safeguards exist. Otherwise it’s easy for this kind of tech to creep far beyond its original purpose.

Will they get deported or long service leave?

10 minutes ago, Jim Waldron said:

It sounds like a reasonable use of AI on the surface, but the article leaves out one pretty crucial detail — when and how were these images captured.

If the system flagged them after they were already in custody, that’s one thing. But if these cameras are scanning and identifying people as they go about their normal business in public, that’s a much bigger step toward blanket surveillance.

Overstayers should absolutely be dealt with, but the public deserves clarity on how these tools are being used and what safeguards exist. Otherwise it’s easy for this kind of tech to creep far beyond its original purpose.

Did you use an Ai model to polish up this comment t ?

10 minutes ago, Jim Waldron said:

It sounds like a reasonable use of AI on the surface, but the article leaves out one pretty crucial detail — when and how were these images captured.

If the system flagged them after they were already in custody, that’s one thing. But if these cameras are scanning and identifying people as they go about their normal business in public, that’s a much bigger step toward blanket surveillance.

Overstayers should absolutely be dealt with, but the public deserves clarity on how these tools are being used and what safeguards exist. Otherwise it’s easy for this kind of tech to creep far beyond its original purpose.

"Normal business" in Thailand is,nt done by illegal overstayers tho, so fair shot police! What do you think CCTV are doing 24/7?

19 minutes ago, Jim Waldron said:

that’s a much bigger step toward blanket surveillance.

I think the student protests during Covid really frightened the elites much more than realized.

In Pattaya they have BMW's with AI facial recognition cameras driving around..but more often parked up in strategic spots.

They also have a vast network of cameras on the street with a website for public viewing.

So yes this is scanning the public while they go about their daily business.

"Safe and effective"

Oh sorry no it's

"for your own safety and to protect the children"

2 hours ago, Jim Waldron said:

It sounds like a reasonable use of AI on the surface, but the article leaves out one pretty crucial detail — when and how were these images captured.

If the system flagged them after they were already in custody, that’s one thing. But if these cameras are scanning and identifying people as they go about their normal business in public, that’s a much bigger step toward blanket surveillance.

Overstayers should absolutely be dealt with, but the public deserves clarity on how these tools are being used and what safeguards exist. Otherwise it’s easy for this kind of tech to creep far beyond its original purpose.

Thats a good point. In Australia the large hardware chain Bunnings started using AI cameras at the entrances to their stores due to the high level of shoplifting . Some do-gooder complained and took them to court to try to stop them .Bunnings won the case and are using them again. If you are not a wanted criminal or an overstayer what's the problem ??

6 minutes ago, wavodavo said:

If you are not a wanted criminal or an overstayer what's the problem ??

The problem is that everyone is treated like a criminal until proven innocent...an inversion of the norm.

Thai authorities said both men will remain in custody while legal and deportation procedures continue.

Wow. That's refreshing. Sanity in immigration policy. The collective West could take a lesson there.

The psychological effect of thinking AI may catch you if you go out in public, probably has a greater effect than the practical application of the technology, if that is, indeed, what happened in this particular case.

A Nigerian prince and his lackey, no doubt.

I'm troubled a bit as these are two Nigerians, black men. I wonder if Thai police give special attention to black people here.... there is that reputation for scams and illegal activities, but I have no idea as to percentages.... There are far fewer black tourists here than any other group, so they do stick out lie a raisin in the sun....

3 hours ago, Jim Waldron said:

It sounds like a reasonable use of AI on the surface, but the article leaves out one pretty crucial detail — when and how were these images captured.

If the system flagged them after they were already in custody, that’s one thing. But if these cameras are scanning and identifying people as they go about their normal business in public, that’s a much bigger step toward blanket surveillance.

Overstayers should absolutely be dealt with, but the public deserves clarity on how these tools are being used and what safeguards exist. Otherwise it’s easy for this kind of tech to creep far beyond its original purpose.

Perhaps you should look at the number of cameras in the UK that are being monitored 24/7 by such people as local authorities, those located on private homes and businesses monitoring the streets, together with those used by the police, with ANPR cameras monitoring thousands of number plates a minute.

Doesn’t worry me because I comply with all the law.

1 hour ago, wavodavo said:

Thats a good point. In Australia the large hardware chain Bunnings started using AI cameras at the entrances to their stores due to the high level of shoplifting . Some do-gooder complained and took them to court to try to stop them .Bunnings won the case and are using them again. If you are not a wanted criminal or an overstayer what's the problem ??

It's ok for you until a situation gets down to you right? Depends on what level of control government will have with AI facial recognition and what they want to do with it. Perhaps they may want to control your bank withdrawals or how much fuel you put in you car etc. Personally I'm not a fan of that kind of control!

6 minutes ago, StevieAus said:

Doesn’t worry me because I comply with all the law.

I'm quite certain there are some laws that you break without even knowing you broke them and will of course be very happy to get that knock on the door by the gestapo and enjoy the free food and luxury accommodation 'at his majesty's pleasure'

14 minutes ago, Emdog said:

I'm troubled a bit as these are two Nigerians, black men. I wonder if Thai police give special attention to black people here.... there is that reputation for scams and illegal activities, but I have no idea as to percentages.... There are far fewer black tourists here than any other group, so they do stick out lie a raisin in the sun....

I would guess that is the case. Two men with black skin colour, quick use AI facial recognition to see if they are overstay.

I doubt thousands of white men are being scanned to check if they are over stay. Maybe, maybe not. But if your visa affairs are in order, it makes no difference .

2 hours ago, johng said:

The problem is that everyone is treated like a criminal until proven innocent...an inversion of the norm.

That's always been like that ,No matter where one is or when something happens the cops will slap the cuffs on ya.

8 hours ago, johng said:

8 hours ago, wavodavo said:

If you are not a wanted criminal or an overstayer what's the problem ??

The problem is that everyone is treated like a criminal until proven innocent...an inversion of the norm

No, they are not. Observing the general public is not "treating anybody like a criminal until proven innocent".

12 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Observing the general public is not "treating anybody like a criminal until proven innocent".

How about surveilling the general public observing is too tame a word.

11 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

The two men, Ousmane Kon and Clinton Ekechukwu...

Well, imagine that... the usual demographic suspects validating the normal trends.

Everybody thinks they have nothing to hide. What about blackmail when you took advantage of that poor girl in a curtain hotel?

I don't wish to live in a surveillance state. AI can zip through hundreds of thousands of our digital photos taken by Immigration.

AI makes mistakes. Good luck getting out of that.

7 hours ago, johng said:

I'm quite certain there are some laws that you break without even knowing you broke them and will of course be very happy to get that knock on the door by the gestapo and enjoy the free food and luxury accommodation 'at his majesty's pleasure'

Perhaps you could

7 hours ago, johng said:

I'm quite certain there are some laws that you break without even knowing you broke them and will of course be very happy to get that knock on the door by the gestapo and enjoy the free food and luxury accommodation 'at his majesty's pleasure'

I don't think the term relating to being detained at his majesty's pleasure is applicable in Thailand and recall that the Gestapo ceased to exist at the end of WW 2.

Fortunately I don't live in the UK also I don't suffer from paranoia.

As a retired lawyer I will take my chances should I inadvertently breach some minor legislation.

What about privacy ?

Put togheter Digital ID , Digital Currency , Digital Wallet and AI monitored CCTV and what will you get out ? Well it is what it is .

I've always said if I wanted to retire in Thailand with the ridiculous retirement rules I would just fly in as a tourist and vanish. Small town up country. When ready to leave pay the fine and get blacklisted. Perfect.

I personally never liked Pukett or Pattaya..

These facial recognition cameras is part of Chinese technology supplied to various countries.

The technology works great....!!!!

In China, we have the SOCIAL CREDIT SYSTEM.

Everybody obeys, or they get flogged.

The cameras placed EVERYWHERE, using AI, can detect all infractions, big or small.

Public indecency is impossible in China.

19 hours ago, johng said:

The problem is that everyone is treated like a criminal until proven innocent...an inversion of the norm.

19 hours ago, johng said:

The problem is that everyone is treated like a criminal until proven innocent...an inversion of the norm.

19 hours ago, johng said:

The problem is that everyone is treated like a criminal until proven innocent...an inversion of the norm.

The same could be said for roadside random breath set up test stations by police . every driver gets tested including non drinkers, My wife is in that catergory and she is sick of being breath tested for nothing but it is a very effective way of catching drink drivers.

On 5/9/2026 at 6:27 AM, NONG CHOK said:

Will they get deported or long service leave?

Deported and banned for 10 years if caught and on more than a year overstay.