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Burnham's EU rejoin dreams vs Glasgow protests and EU's new "send them back" deportation appear to be heading for a shedful at the local Pubs.

New UK PM Burnham, who has previously expressed a desire to see the UK rejoin the EU within his lifetime, is now steering the country toward closer European ties just weeks into his stint. This comes as immigration protests in Glasgow descended into chaos over the weekend, with police clashing with demonstrators at Glasgow Green amid rising public anger.

Meanwhile, the European Parliament recently passed the tough new Return Regulation (418 /218 on 17 June), with many MEPs chanting "send them back" as it introduces faster deportations, longer detention, and external return hubs , raising questions about whether Burnham's pro EU stance aligns with current pressures on immigration and returns in Scotland and the wider UK.


Glasgow immigration protests descend into chaos as police clash with protesters.

the story is based on a Scottish Sun News Report

17 hours ago, riclag said:

Burnham's EU rejoin dreams vs Glasgow protests and EU's new "send them back" deportation appear to be heading for a shedful at the local Pubs.

New UK PM Burnham, who has previously expressed a desire to see the UK rejoin the EU within his lifetime, is now steering the country toward closer European ties just weeks into his stint. This comes as immigration protests in Glasgow descended into chaos over the weekend, with police clashing with demonstrators at Glasgow Green amid rising public anger.

Meanwhile, the European Parliament recently passed the tough new Return Regulation (418 /218 on 17 June), with many MEPs chanting "send them back" as it introduces faster deportations, longer detention, and external return hubs , raising questions about whether Burnham's pro EU stance aligns with current pressures on immigration and returns in Scotland and the wider UK.


Glasgow immigration protests descend into chaos as police clash with protesters.

the story is based on a Scottish Sun News Report

Burnham - like all European leaders - would like to see an end to illegal immigration.

If the EU's new measures are seen to work, I'd imagine that Burnham would be keen to adopt them.

Why is Burnham's pro-EU stance threatened? Where is the dilemma?

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2 hours ago, RayC said:

Burnham - like all European leaders - would like to see an end to illegal immigration.

If the EU's new measures are seen to work, I'd imagine that Burnham would be keen to adopt them.

Why is Burnham's pro-EU stance threatened? Where is the dilemma?

For Burnham (or any pro EU progressive), aligning closer with Brussels means aligning with a bloc whose actual policies ("send them back") directly clash with traditional left wing/progressive values on asylum and immigration.

Mr. Burnham is a far left socialist , hell bent on keeping a resemblance of the status quo. Sure he'll go thru the motions like his predecessor.

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1 hour ago, riclag said:

For Burnham (or any pro EU progressive), aligning closer with Brussels means aligning with a bloc whose actual policies ("send them back") directly clash with traditional left wing/progressive values on asylum and immigration.

Mr. Burnham is a far left socialist , hell bent on keeping a resemblance of the status quo. Sure he'll go thru the motions like his predecessor.

Your argument rests on a false assumption. Mr. Burnham is not a far-left socialist, he is a centrist, soft-left liberal democrat who believes in a mixed economy model. This was demonstrated during his tenure as Mayor of Manchester.

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16 hours ago, riclag said:

For Burnham (or any pro EU progressive), aligning closer with Brussels means aligning with a bloc whose actual policies ("send them back") directly clash with traditional left wing/progressive values on asylum and immigration.

Mr. Burnham is a far left socialist , hell bent on keeping a resemblance of the status quo. Sure he'll go thru the motions like his predecessor.

And just like that the test for the Socialist Burnham,boats show smugglers are taking bigger risks, and that Burnham has been slow to address the issue publicly in his first week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg688pr9z0o

It seems that Labour policies have been working, Fewer than 12,000 migrants landed in the first half of 2026, down from nearly 20,000 in the first half of 2025. Labour may be poor at many things but better than the Conservatives at others.

3 hours ago, riclag said:

And just like that the test for the Socialist Burnham,boats show smugglers are taking bigger risks, and that Burnham has been slow to address the issue publicly in his first week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg688pr9z0o

Illegal boat crossings have been a major problem for +/-10 YEARS and no UK government - Labour or Tory - has yet found a lasting solution.

Burnham has been in power for 1 WEEK and you criticise him for his 'failure'. Maybe you'd like to criticise him for not finding a cure for dementia yet as well?🤦

10 minutes ago, RayC said:

Illegal boat crossings have been a major problem for +/-10 YEARS and no UK government - Labour or Tory - has yet found a lasting solution.

Burnham has been in power for 1 WEEK and you criticise him for his 'failure'. Maybe you'd like to criticise him for not finding a cure for dementia yet as well?🤦

In that 1 week he's been laying out his priorities. He's been worryingly silent about immigration / boat crossings which suggests he's not bothered about that topic.

Burnham could be the people smugglers' dream PM

Just now, CG1 Blue said:

In that 1 week he's been laying out his priorities. He's been worryingly silent about immigration / boat crossings which suggests he's not bothered about that topic.

Burnham could be the people smugglers' dream PM

Maybe like the PMs who have gone before him, Burnham has no simple solution to solve the problem, and doesn't want to be held to account for promises which he has no chance of keeping.

One of today's shockers was an Albanian' multi convicted drug dealer can't be deported because his daughter wets the bed.

This type of lunacy will end any UK government as the people a forced to rise up, having thousands of undocumented economic migrants break in and rewarded then roam won't be tolerated.

Two instantly working options' for Burnham.

  1. Detain on arrival with zero handouts

  2. Enlist all fighting aged men in the Ukrainian Army and deport 🤔

9 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Enlist all fighting aged men in the Ukrainian Army and deport 🤔

If you mean send all the illegals to Ukraine then thats something I could agree with but it's not what Burn-em would do...instead he will send British citizens to fight and die for Ukraine !

15 hours ago, johng said:

If you mean send all the illegals to Ukraine then thats something I could agree with but it's not what Burn-em would do...instead he will send British citizens to fight and die for Ukraine !

The totally illegals could do something useful and earn a right to remain in the Donbass' before a 4* hotel at the taxpayers expense if not the deterrent would surely be instant 🤔

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On 7/27/2026 at 5:53 PM, riclag said:

For Burnham (or any pro EU progressive), aligning closer with Brussels means aligning with a bloc whose actual policies ("send them back") directly clash with traditional left wing/progressive values on asylum and immigration.

Mr. Burnham is a far left socialist , hell bent on keeping a resemblance of the status quo. Sure he'll go thru the motions like his predecessor.

"UK inundated by Illegal Immigrants" Burnham 's UK allowing hundreds to cross.

16 hours ago, riclag said:

"UK inundated by Illegal Immigrants" Burnham 's UK allowing hundreds to cross.

So what are you suggesting Burnham should do? Should the UK should invade France in order to stop boats containing illegal immigrants departing from French shores?

10 minutes ago, RayC said:

So what are you suggesting Burnham should do? Should the UK should invade France in order to stop boats containing illegal immigrants departing from French shores?

How about.... carrying them back to France and landing them on the beaches from which they departed? Oh, and shooting any human trafficker they see.

You might want to ask the Spanish how they are feeling about "migrants" today...

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6 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

How about.... carrying them back to France and landing them on the beaches from which they departed? Oh, and shooting any human trafficker they see.

You might want to ask the Spanish how they are feeling about "migrants" today...

The globalist far left dream of accepting the world population has a better idea, deflect from strong enforcement.

38 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

How about.... carrying them back to France and landing them on the beaches from which they departed?

If the UK wants to provoke a diplomatic war - or possibly worse - with France and, by extension, the EU then yes, I think that such a move should do the trick. Otherwise, I don't think that it is such a good idea.

38 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Oh, and shooting any human trafficker they see.

I very much doubt that the people with the brains and money behind human trafficking are present on the French beaches wishing the departing illegal migrants, 'Bonne voyage', so shooting a few foot soldiers wouldn't make much of a difference to the number of crossings. Probably, all it would succeed in doing is escalating the problem into one where the French police and traffickers are exchanging gunfire on the beaches.

38 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

You might want to ask the Spanish how they are feeling about "migrants" today...

I imagine that most Spaniards resident in mainline Spain are saying something like, "That's bad. Something needs to be done about it", before returning to the more pressing matter of where they are going to eat lunch. Those resident in the Spanish enclaves inside Morocco are almost certainly a lot more concerned. Given that it is quite difficult to manage these borders - especially when the Spanish government invites Moroccan workers into these enclaves on a daily basis - perhaps, the Spanish government could open discussions with the Moroccan government about the future of these enclaves.

15 minutes ago, riclag said:

The globalist far left dream of accepting the world population has a better idea, deflect from strong enforcement.

Do you know where is this "globalist far left" group is headquartered? If it's nearby I might pop in and see what they have got to offer.

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1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

How about.... carrying them back to France and landing them on the beaches from which they departed? Oh, and shooting any human trafficker they see.

You might want to ask the Spanish how they are feeling about "migrants" today...

nigel says don't make it look attractive to those who come . Burnham is putting these illegals up in temporary accommodations.

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/26297759.norfolk-leader-pledges-fight-raf-barnham-asylum-bid/

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The Burnham bunch delema, boats are still rollin in while the natives are getting restless.

*"On Sunday, the latest figures showed that more than 2,000 people have crossed the English Channel in small boats since Mr Burnham became Prime Minister".

and this

* https://www.radionewshub.com/articles/news-updates/Burnham-pledges-to-be-relentless-in-tackling-small-boat-crossings

On 7/27/2026 at 7:01 PM, RayC said:

Your argument rests on a false assumption.

As if everything the op spouts as they are looking at everything through their partisan glasses and cannot distinguish fact from opinion..

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On 7/26/2026 at 3:27 PM, riclag said:

Burnham's EU rejoin dreams vs Glasgow protests and EU's new "send them back" deportation appear to be heading for a shedful at the local Pubs.

New UK PM Burnham, who has previously expressed a desire to see the UK rejoin the EU within his lifetime, is now steering the country toward closer European ties just weeks into his stint. This comes as immigration protests in Glasgow descended into chaos over the weekend, with police clashing with demonstrators at Glasgow Green amid rising public anger.

Meanwhile, the European Parliament recently passed the tough new Return Regulation (418 /218 on 17 June), with many MEPs chanting "send them back" as it introduces faster deportations, longer detention, and external return hubs , raising questions about whether Burnham's pro EU stance aligns with current pressures on immigration and returns in Scotland and the wider UK.


Glasgow immigration protests descend into chaos as police clash with protesters.

the story is based on a Scottish Sun News Report

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This is good. An American who knows <deleted> all about British politics decides to <deleted> stir.

Or are you now actually English?

1 hour ago, Roadsternut said:

This is good. An American who knows <deleted> all about British politics decides to <deleted> stir.

Or are you now actually English?


You could have saved some bandwidth, you only needed the first eight words:

This is good. An American who knows <deleted> all.

35 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:


You could have saved some bandwidth, you only needed the first eight words:

This is good. An American who knows <deleted> all.

Is he American (by birth). At one time, he insisted on a cross of St George avatar, preventing Englishmen from using the same. I assumed he is a plastic American.

I don't understand why they can't find some land (or use old army bases) & set-up "Processing Centers" where any illegal immigrants can be housed whilst their asylum claims are being processed, then return the ones who fail.

[I appreciate the "Return" part is much easier said than done but surely having them safely secured in a "Center" is better than putting them up in hotels & not knowing where they are].

In an ideal world they'd have a "Center" in Calais where genuine asylum seekers could apply & if successful be given safe transport to the UK but that begs the question, why aren't they seeking asylum in France.

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19 minutes ago, SamSpade said:

I don't understand why they can't find some land (or use old army bases) & set-up "Processing Centers" where any illegal immigrants can be housed whilst their asylum claims are being processed, then return the ones who fail.

[I appreciate the "Return" part is much easier said than done but surely having them safely secured in a "Center" is better than putting them up in hotels & not knowing where they are].

In an ideal world they'd have a "Center" in Calais where genuine asylum seekers could apply & if successful be given safe transport to the UK but that begs the question, why aren't they seeking asylum in France.

Because they don't really want to stop it.

They just want to appear that they want to stop it.

Hence, lots of words and zero action.

If they really wanted to stop it, it would be incredibly easy. Remove all incentives. Round them up and lock them in detention centres. They will stop coming within days, and the ones already here will self deport as soon as they are able to.

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