If any of you were wondering why the world is questioning the legitimacy of medicine and science it should be obvious now. It's all been hijacked by people with extremist ideology and lust for power. When you find a GP that tells you you're healthy on first visit then you've found someone worth keeping. Becoming rarer

The poor darlings over at Fox "No, this is definitively not a News channel" are busy talking about Dr Fauci, because talking about dead US service men and women, an explosion in the number of cases of Measles (or, as they say in MAGA circles, Freedom Freckles), explosive diarrhea, rampant corruption, another bunch of conmen pardoned, missing GOP senators, trump's horrible polling numbers or any number of equally (for the GOP) depressing stories is gonna make MAGA sad, so sad.

They'll probably move on to "Hillary Clinton's emails" or maybe even "Barack Obama's birth certificate" by mid-week. We could also revisit The Laptop!🤣

6 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

The poor darlings over at Fox "No, this is definitively not a News channel" are busy talking about Dr Fauci, because talking about dead US service men and women, an explosion in the number of cases of Measles (or, as they say in MAGA circles, Freedom Freckles), explosive diarrhea, rampant corruption, another bunch of conmen pardoned, missing GOP senators, trump's horrible polling numbers or any number of equally (for the GOP) depressing stories is gonna make MAGA sad, so sad.

They'll probably move on to "Hillary Clinton's emails" or maybe even "Barack Obama's birth certificate" by mid-week. We could also revisit The Laptop!🤣

Could have just stuck to the topic. Alot of intellectual dishonesty in the world now, a million examples but as usual just more deflection. Are you the only one online at these hours?

Edited July 28Jul 28 by harvardgrad

50 minutes ago, harvardgrad said:

If any of you were wondering why the world is questioning the legitimacy of medicine and science it should be obvious now. It's all been hijacked by people with extremist ideology and lust for power. When you find a GP that tells you you're healthy on first visit then you've found someone worth keeping. Becoming rarer

"If any of you were wondering why the world is questioning the legitimacy of medicine and science it should be obvious now."

The world doesn't. MAGA does. I would have thought that a secular Saudi-Arabian Harvard graduate like you would be able to see the distinction....

Big Pharma has taken over the educating of docs, so it's treat symptoms, before asking about cause of. Lucky to find one, in 1st world countries, that doesn't want to prescribe something.

Good to find one that states your healthy, or suggest some minor dietary and exercise changes to eleviate any symptoms, instead of going right to the script pad.

My GP back in USA was old school, cause, before treating symptoms, for long term results.

My GP here, a Nephrologist is the same, along with my Cardiologist, and haven't been corrupted by big phama. I found the same with GP, at a guess, doing consultations at Camillian Hosp, where I did the most of my almost yearly check ups. Never pushing meds or more tests, but bluntly pointing out the obvious; lose weight & lay off the damn pastries.

Last 10+ years, taken over my yearly check up, and applied that uncommon common sense, and brought all my numbers down to normal levels, to near excellent, without giving up much of anything. Yea, adjusted to whole foods & moderation. Just basic common sense.

I don't find TH nearly as corrupted as the reports we hear from the 1st world countries. Yea, if you go to Thai hosp with minor this & that, they give you a bag of antibody and or pain reliever, with 'if symptoms persist' , come back in 2 weeks.

If it's bacterial, very rare, then it will help. If not, then your body self cures most things in 2 weeks anyway. Antibodies are cheaper & faster that testing for what ever the real infection is caused by. Muscular and skeletal aches & pains will usually receed in couple weeks anyway, if you behave yourself. My experiences anyway, and I've had my fair share of, before retiring.

Almost serious stuff and minor procedures, they, Thai docs, seem to be pretty good at, or have been in my case. Haven't gone under the knife for anything serious here.

Edited July 28Jul 28 by KhunLA

4 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Big Pharma has taken over the educating of docs, so it's treat symptoms, before asking about cause of. Lucky to find one, in 1st world countries, that doesn't want to prescribe something.

Good to find one that states your healthy, or suggest some minor dietary and exercise changes to eleviate any symptoms, instead of going right to the script pad.

My GP back in USA was old school, cause, before treating symptoms, for long term results.

My GP here, a Nephrologist is the same, along with my Cardiologist, and haven't been corrupted by big phama. I found the same with GP, at a guess, doing consultations at Camillian Hosp, where I did the most of my almost yearly check ups. Never pushing meds or more tests, but bluntly pointing out the obvious; lose weight & lay off the damn pastries.

Last 10+ years, taken over my yearly check up, and applied that uncommon common sense, and brought all my numbers down to normal levels, to near excellent, without giving up much of anything. Yea, whole foods & moderation.

I don't find TH nearly as corrupted as the reports we hear from the 1st world countries. Yea, if you go to Thai hosp with minor this & that, they give you a bag of antibody and or pain reliever, with 'if symptoms persist' , come back in 2 weeks.

If it's bacterial, very rare, then it will help. If not, then your body self cures most things in 2 weeks anyway. Antibodies are cheaper & faster that testing for what ever the real infection is caused by. Muscular and skeletal aches & pains will usually receed in couple weeks anyway, if you behave yourself. My experiences anyway, and I've had my fair share of, before retiring.

Almost serious stuff and minor procedures, they, Thai docs, seem to be pretty good at, or have been in my case. Haven't gone under the knife for anything serious here.

My experience was, developed squamous cell on my face, wasn't noticed in Thailand, only in US when years later and a GP referred me to a dermatologist. No GP in Thailand would have noticed.

My daughter developed typhoid fever I believe and she was seen by several clinics until they went to bumrungrad and they gave her antibiotics and she got better but I'm not even sure if they even diagnosed as typhoid fever. It was only years later when I looked up the symptoms and found what it was most likely. Just a common and deadly illness for kids that three or four doctors couldn't figure out or pretended not to extract more money out of a foreign child. Will never know

5 minutes ago, harvardgrad said:

My experience was, developed squamous cell on my face, wasn't noticed in Thailand, only in US when years later and a GP referred me to a dermatologist. No GP in Thailand would have noticed.

My daughter developed typhoid fever I believe and she was seen by several clinics until they went to bumrungrad and they gave her antibiotics and she got better but I'm not even sure if they even diagnosed as typhoid fever. It was only years later when I looked up the symptoms and found what it was most likely. Just a common and deadly illness for kids that three or four doctors couldn't figure out or pretended not to extract more money out of a foreign child. Will never know

If you looked up the symptoms and think you found out the truth it does not mean that your assumption was correct. So many people are trying to solve everything by Google or AI instead of visiting a hospital.

1 minute ago, msbkk said:

If you looked up the symptoms and think you found out the truth it does not mean that your assumption was correct. So many people are trying to solve everything by Google or AI instead of visiting a hospital.

These days I use AI first. Then a GP as a second opinion if necessary. Usually not necessary. I was in my 20s during all of that. Not a good place for me at the time but maybe would be OK sometime when I'm more experienced

18 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Big Pharma has taken over the educating of docs, so it's treat symptoms, before asking about cause of. Lucky to find one, in 1st world countries, that doesn't want to prescribe something.

Good to find one that states your healthy, or suggest some minor dietary and exercise changes to eleviate any symptoms, instead of going right to the script pad.

My GP back in USA was old school, cause, before treating symptoms, for long term results.

My GP here, a Nephrologist is the same, along with my Cardiologist, and haven't been corrupted by big phama. I found the same with GP, at a guess, doing consultations at Camillian Hosp, where I did the most of my almost yearly check ups. Never pushing meds or more tests, but bluntly pointing out the obvious; lose weight & lay off the damn pastries.

Last 10+ years, taken over my yearly check up, and applied that uncommon common sense, and brought all my numbers down to normal levels, to near excellent, without giving up much of anything. Yea, adjusted to whole foods & moderation. Just basic common sense.

I don't find TH nearly as corrupted as the reports we hear from the 1st world countries. Yea, if you go to Thai hosp with minor this & that, they give you a bag of antibody and or pain reliever, with 'if symptoms persist' , come back in 2 weeks.

If it's bacterial, very rare, then it will help. If not, then your body self cures most things in 2 weeks anyway. Antibodies are cheaper & faster that testing for what ever the real infection is caused by. Muscular and skeletal aches & pains will usually receed in couple weeks anyway, if you behave yourself. My experiences anyway, and I've had my fair share of, before retiring.

Almost serious stuff and minor procedures, they, Thai docs, seem to be pretty good at, or have been in my case. Haven't gone under the knife for anything serious here.

I don't agree with your look on ",Big Pharma.

Actually, who is it?

Pharma companies are not a welfare Organisation but have to earn money.

So have the Docs.

In daily practice in a hospital and 8-10 hrs work it's hard to keep up with medical or pharmaceutical developments. Therefore inany hospitals the doc is responsible for the diagnose, the pharmacist for treatment.

And don't forget: Doc's first post will be in a govt hospital. Years later they might move to a private, have gained much more experience, avoiding mistakes.

So "Big Pharma" offers private extra lessons, sometimes necessary even

After the revelations of his diary came out I watched a montage of MSM networks praising him during the covid crisis. Then I thought of this video below ,when DC mayor Bowser & Fauci went on a get your Vax campaign , going door to door.

Fauci, DC Mayor Muriel Bowser rejected trying to sell vax door-to-door in awkward video

Rand Paul spares nobody ...except himself !

When poorly educated truck drivers and other manual laborers, all members of the cult of the self-serving absurdity, the leader of which had a 'gut feel' that injecting disinfectant would end Covid, especially if coupled with sticking a UV light up one's butt, disparage Francis Bacon's science method....you get whackadoodle heroin addict and raccoon penis collector RFK, Jr. as head of the nation's health.

No doubt if MAGAnistas had their way, we'd go back to the days of bloodletting and thinking illness is caused by evil spirits and invisible demons, plus believe man and dinosaurs used to peacefully coexist, and Earth is only 6000 years old.

In these new Dark Ages, the far right is again embracing fantasy and myth and disparaging the science of Francis Bacon.

"Trust the science".....

"There are 2 genders"...

No not like that🥵🥵

On 7/28/2026 at 7:53 AM, harvardgrad said:

These days I use AI first. Then a GP as a second opinion if necessary. Usually not necessary. I was in my 20s during all of that. Not a good place for me at the time but maybe would be OK sometime when I'm more experienced

What are some of your other names on this website. I feel that we have a special relationship, that I know you so well.

🙂

On 7/28/2026 at 7:59 PM, newbee2022 said:

I don't agree with your look on ",Big Pharma.

Actually, who is it?

Pharma companies are not a welfare Organisation but have to earn money.

So have the Docs.

In daily practice in a hospital and 8-10 hrs work it's hard to keep up with medical or pharmaceutical developments. Therefore inany hospitals the doc is responsible for the diagnose, the pharmacist for treatment.

I used to date a pharmaceutical rep from a big pharmaceutical company. I can guaranty you that they're not interested in the least in actually "educating" the doctors. They're peddling pills. Preferably the more profitable ones as opposed to the most effective.

She was attractive, friendly, and had a nice rack. She made a mint.

On 7/28/2026 at 5:14 PM, harvardgrad said:

If any of you were wondering why the world is questioning the legitimacy of medicine and science it should be obvious now. It's all been hijacked by people with extremist ideology and lust for power. When you find a GP that tells you you're healthy on first visit then you've found someone worth keeping. Becoming rarer

On 7/28/2026 at 5:14 PM, harvardgrad said:

If any of you were wondering why the world is questioning the legitimacy of medicine and science it should be obvious now. It's all been hijacked by people with extremist ideology and lust for power. When you find a GP that tells you you're healthy on first visit then you've found someone worth keeping. Becoming rarer

On 7/28/2026 at 5:14 PM, harvardgrad said:

If any of you were wondering why the world is questioning the legitimacy of medicine and science it should be obvious now.

True. 🫡

Your attempt to smear Science and embrace MAGA Ignorance is very obvious.

Cowardly hiding behind the 5th Amendment. What a POS.
Fauchi killed off a LOT of retards - many from here disappeared - not sure if that's a good or bad thing in the long run.
Evil though.

Edited July 31Jul 31 by Tourist2

5 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

True. 🫡

Your attempt to smear Science and embrace MAGA Ignorance is very obvious.

You mean "The Science" who wrote one thing in his (now public) journal, while saying the opposite to the public?

That policy makers used to lock down the economy (killing millions of businesses and careers), take kids out of schools for years, peddled mRNA for kids (who were at virtually no risk) and squelched the very things on social media and the news that "The Science" was posting in his journal?

That Science?

13 hours ago, impulse said:

I used to date a pharmaceutical rep from a big pharmaceutical company. I can guaranty you that they're not interested in the least in actually "educating" the doctors. They're peddling pills. Preferably the more profitable ones as opposed to the most effective.

She was attractive, friendly, and had a nice rack. She made a mint.

It's a pity that you didn't read my post carefully and obviously didn't understand.

And it's clear that you're not an expert and don't have the knowledge what is not surprising.

The appearance of female reps was once a plus, but nowadays facts, experience, proofs, science, benefits are more important. Therefore reps are often pharmacists or doctors, communicating on the same level of education.

However, there are always "incentives" which might influence doctor's choice of medication. Who would say no if a weekend on the Bahamas is offered? That's a kind of dilemma, sometimes. Ethic or money. Not real friends often.

In times of lesser money for Health (as NHS) is important to have the best medicine for the lowest price. It's like squaring the circle! So in order to introduce a new medicine there have to be decisive benefits for the patients.

This is in hospitals.

In local clinics it can be different though.

3 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

It's a pity that you didn't read my post carefully and obviously didn't understand.

And it's clear that you're not an expert and don't have the knowledge what is not surprising.

The appearance of female reps was once a plus, but nowadays facts, experience, proofs, science, benefits are more important. Therefore reps are often pharmacists or doctors, communicating on the same level of education.

However, there are always "incentives" which might influence doctor's choice of medication. Who would say no if a weekend on the Bahamas is offered? That's a kind of dilemma, sometimes. Ethic or money. Not real friends often.

In times of lesser money for Health (as NHS) is important to have the best medicine for the lowest price. It's like squaring the circle! So in order to introduce a new medicine there have to be decisive benefits for the patients.

This is in hospitals.

In local clinics it can be different though.

I read it. I understand it. I just disagree with it.