Bogus Crap On Pattaya Daily News Website

[morejunk]

The bogus crap on the very questionable Pattaya Daily News website with their extra "information to make it more interesting". This is also listed as a crime:

NORWEGIAN DIES WHILE DRINKING IN JOMTIEN BAR

Updated: [January 5, 2008 ] :: 16:29:27 [view 797]

NORWEGIAN DIES WHILE DRINKING IN JOMTIEN BAR

A Norwegian national, Mr.Sorgard Terje Andreas, 71, fell victim to

the Scandinavian curse in Ping Pong Beer Bar, 79/93 Soi Jomtien Moo

7, when he suffered a fatal attack, brought on, the police surmise,

from drinking alcohol.

At 00.10 am, on 5 Jan ‘08, Police Major Pratipat Meepoom, Inspector

of Pattaya Police, Dongtan Branch, in response to an emergency call

arrived with a rescue team from the Sawangboriboon Foundation to

find the dead body of Mr.Sorgard lying on the floor of the bar, with

a saliva–filled mouth and darkened face, surrounded by shocked

tourists and bar hostesses.

Norwegians are severely restricted back home in Norway by

prohibitive taxes on alcohol, accordingly, low-priced alcohol, is

one of the main attractions of Thailand. However, unlike normal

drinkers from elsewhere, who learn to moderate their alcohol intake,

Norwegians drink to excess in Thailand and consequently often fall

prey to alcohol poisoning. In this case, however, Mr.Sorgard had

only had two Heineken beers, leaving the evidence on the table,

along with his unpaid bar bill.

Questioning one of the bar hostesses, Miss Jom, police discovered

that Mr.Sorgard was travelling around Thailand with his daughter.

They were staying briefly at Somboon Guesthouse, near the bar.

Apparently, on the night of the incident, Mr.Sorgard was drinking

alone. After finishing his second bottle of beer, he went into

cramps and fell dying to the floor, to the profound distress of the

bar clientele and hostesses. Although an ambulance was called, it

unfortunately came too late to save Mr.Sorgard.

Later, his daughter came to the bar and, overcome by tears, showed

police a medicine bottle containing asthma preventative medicine,

explaining that Mr.Sorgard suffered from the congenital disease.

The police sent Mr.Sorgard's body to Banglamung Hospital for further

investigation.

News Type : Crime

Story : Kampee

Photo : Kampee

Translater : Sirithanon

From Pattaya City News site. A more appropriate news release:

Norwegian Man drops dead at Jomtien Beach Bar.

An incident now from the Ping Pong Beer Bar from Soi 7 off Jomtien Beach Road. Police Captain Patipat from

Dongtan

Police Sub-Station was called to the bar in the early hours of Saturday Morning to investigate the death of

a foreign patron inside the bar. At the scene, Police inspected the body of Mr. Terje Andreas Sorgard aged

71 from Norway. According to friends of the deceased, he fell to the floor and stopped breathing

without any previous indication he was feeling ill. He had drunk one bottle of beer and was in the process

of ordering a second when he fell to the ground. Little is known about the man; however Police suspect

he died of a Heart Attack which is expected to be confirmed after the results of a post mortem are released and

is supported by a variety of heart medications found inside his trouser pocket. The Norwegian Embassy in

Bangkok has been informed of the death.

Pattaya Daily News-they make it up as they go along. More interesting to read that way.

[jumnien]

Yes, the Pattaya City News is world-reknown for its jounalistic integrity and often quoted by superior newspapers throughout the world.

[naka]

This is what their website says.

Pattaya City News is a unique partnership between a Thai who speaks little English and an Englishman who speaks little Thai.

Naka.

[morejunk]

Sunrise07 says: Yes, the Pattaya City News is world-reknown for its jounalistic integrity and often quoted by superior newspapers throughout the world.

I agree that Pattaya City News seems to keep it accurate.

It would be an oximoron to say that about Pattaya Daily News

PATTAYA DAILY NEWS often adds "facts" and supposition to their version of the "news". This seems to be ESPECIALLY true when the person in the article has died. Makes much more interesting reading and not much chance of a law suit when it is done that way. I wonder if they have ever been sued for misrepresentation or slander.

Edited January 8, 2008 by morejunk

[johnh101]

The Op was referring to "Pattaya Daily News".

My anti virus software / firewall advises me not to open the website due to the presence of mailicious software / adware / spyware.

[morejunk]

Info for the editor at Pattaya Daily News:

Definition of CRIME - A crime is a wrongdoing classified by the state or Congress as a felony or misdemeanor.

A crime is an offence against a public law. This word, in its most general sense, includes all offences, but in its more limited sense is confined to felony.

The term offence may be considered as having the same meaning, but is usually understood to be a crime not indictable but punishable, summarily or by the forfeiture of a penalty.

Felony. A felony is a serious crime punishable by at least one year in prison. Some family law felonies include kidnapping and custodial interference (in some states).

Misdemeanor. A misdemeanor is a crime for which the punishment is usually a fine and/or up to one year in a county jail. Often a crime which is a misdemeanor for the first offense becomes a felony for repeated offenses. All crimes that are not felonies are misdemeanors.

Crimes are defined and punished by statutes and by the common law. Most common law offences are as well known and as precisely ascertained as those which are defined by statutes; yet, from the difficulty of exactly defining and describing every act which ought to be punished, the vital and preserving principle has been adopted; that all immoral acts which tend to the prejudice of the community are punishable by courts of justice.

So why do they consistantly include heart attacks, accidents, suicide, fires, falling bricks and men climbing poles under crimes?

Maybe I expect too much from them when asking for accuracy in reporting and info.

[OneMikeInBangkok]

...Definition of CRIME

Crimes, misdemenors, felonies, statutes or God forbid Laws

Thanks for the definition according to US Law

Pray - what on Earth has this got to do with Thailand, especially Pattaya???

[morejunk]

You are more than welcome.

So why do they consistantly include heart attacks, accidents, suicide, accidental fires, falling bricks and men climbing poles under crimes?

So I suppose that you think the items listed above are crimes? Perhaps you have some other more accurate definition of crime. Please share it so the rest of us will know.

Edited January 9, 2008 by morejunk

[OneMikeInBangkok]

You are more than welcome.

So why do they consistantly include heart attacks, accidents, suicide, fires, falling bricks and men climbing poles under crimes?

So I suppose that you think the items listed above are crimes?

1. Laziness

2. They only have one "reporter" who's job title is "Crime Reporter"

3. This "Reporter" is probably paid on piece rate for each "Crime Report" and doesn't recive one Baht for a Falling Brick or Falling Farang report.

In the US when someone jumps from the twentieth floor and kills someone underneath - is this classed as

1. Death by suicider

2. Murder by suicider

3. Sheer damned bad luck

If it was a policeman who jumped would this be classed as murder by cop or suicide by cop?

And does the person who was killed by the jumper get to sue the person who jumped and is this only in California?

Edited January 9, 2008 by OneMikeInBangkok

[morejunk]

Please share your meds. I would like to have your rosie opinions and abilty to ramble on. I am more based in reality.

The real point is do you think that Pattaya Daily News is an accurate and responsible website? They don't seem to get it right very often.

Edited January 9, 2008 by morejunk

[OneMikeInBangkok]

Please share your meds. I would like to have your rosey opinions and abilty to ramble on.

Boredom Pills mate

Now do I go for a swim, sunbathe by the pool, take an afternoon nap or maybe just throw myself off the twentieth floor.

I could write a report for PattayaDailyNudes

Farang found dripping wet by the pool. Some bystanders thought he was just sunbathing and mistook his blood covered body for a case of severe sunburn. Others just assumed he was taking an afternoon nap, although impeccable sources reported he jad been there for a couple of days - hence the preponderance of flies at the scene.

The local police were called in to investigate if this was a murder, crime, suicide or just a severe case of sunburn.

When it was assertained that the body was of a farang (western person with a big nose) the case was passed on to the tourist police.

The tourist police then did a thorough search of the farang's 20th floor apartment number 166/20 Tanon Thepprasit, Tambol Nongprue. Here they found the deceased farangs girlfriend/boyfriend.

They also found the deceased farag's passport which contained an out of date visa/

Consequently the case was passed on to the Immigration Police.

The body was taken to Immigration headquarters for interregration and will be transfered to IDC (Immigration Detention Center) Bangkok until such time the deceased farang can raise the funds for his re-patriation to his home country.

A spokesperson for the Police department, not sure which one, warned that although tourists should be encouraged to come here and spend their money in Thailand the heinous crime of overstay will not be tolerated and this dead farang will be paraded on national Thai Television as to be an example for all

PattayaDailyNudes Crime reporter - SomDumb PornRambler

[morejunk]

Nice report but you did not include important items that Pattaya Daily Nudes reporter SomDumb PornRambler typically would have included.

Example: Used condoms were found in the room and there was a full package in the drawer near the bed. A KY package was under the bed. A half empty liquor bottle was near the sink. An adult cd was in the dvd player. There was candy on the table and Sprite in the fridge. Neighbors said they frequently saw the person come in with bags of snacks and beverages. A medication package was found that came from Pattaya City Hospital. This person has a purple Honda Wave license XXX123 and and pink Toyota Celica ZZ4321. He was unusually rich as he could afford both a motorcycle and car. Children were seen playing nearby. There were reports of children running around outside and screaming just before the incident. Children were frequently seen near the residence. Two thousand baht was found in a wallet next to the bed. The farang was once seen smiling and waving to a neighbor's baby.

Edited January 9, 2008 by morejunk

[OneMikeInBangkok]

Nice report but you did not include important items that Pattaya Daily Nudes reporter SomDumb PornRambler typically would have included.

Example: Used condoms were found in the room and there was a full package in the drawer near the bed. A KY package was under the bed. A half empty liquor bottle was near the sink. An adult cd was in the dvd player. There was candy on the table and Sprite in the fridge. Neighbors said they frequently saw the person come in with bags of snacks and beverages. A medication package was found that came from Pattaya City Hospital. This person has a purple Honda Wave license XXX123 and and pink Toyota Celica ZZ4321. He was unusually rich as he could afford both a motorcycle and car. Children were seen playing nearby. There were reports of children running around outside and screaming just before the incident. Children were frequently seen near the residence. Two thousand baht was found in a wallet next to the bed. The farang was once seen smiling and waving to a neighbor's baby.

Solly for misteak - my nickname Lazy SomDumb Bitch

[hm1973]

Firstly, for those that don't recognise my board name, I am Howard from Pattaya City News,

I have been reading this thread with interest and would like to respond to some of the comments made about PCN and PDN. I think you should know that the PDN service, which I think is pretty good by the way, is run mostly by Thai's and sometimes their interpretation of stories will differ to other news sources. I must say that sometimes, the detail in some of their stories is actually better than mine, however we write our stories differently. I normally omit some detail and my stories are much smaller and to the point. PDN is a dedicated web news service and therefore they are able to concentrate on adding extra detail on stories. My website is essentially a copy of the scripts used for our TV and Radio News service and are not neccessarily written in a style seen in a newspaper for that reason.

Sometimes PDN detail is wrong, plain and simple, however, sometimes PCN gets it wrong as well. This is the nature of journalism around the world and these errors are not exclusive to Pattaya Media Organisations. I really don't like the fact that the same story is interpreted differently by each organisation but I have come to accept it now. PCN is world renowned for its hard-hitting stories which is why we are quoted by newspapers and TV stations around the world. I believe our detail is the most accurate, however I am sure the others would say the same. Journalism is a difficult profession here in Pattaya because we rely on translations from Thai to English for most stories which opens the process up to potential errors.

I like the effort put into the PDN Website and wish them all the best for 2008.

Howard

[morejunk]

I find it intersting that you presented such a strong defence for them. You site usually sticks to the facts and leaves all of that question junk and supposition out. They often imply quilt for their own reasons without real facts to support it. It certainly makes interesting reading. Fiction is often more interesting than fact. It seems they often defame the subject of the article for the readers enjoyment. That is not responsible journalism.

[hm1973]

I find it intersting that you presented such a strong defence for them. You site usually sticks to the facts and leaves all of that question junk and supposition out. They often imply quilt for their own reasons without real facts to support it. It certainly makes interesting reading. Fiction is often more interesting than fact. It seems they often defame the subject of the article for the readers enjoyment. That is not responsible journalism.

You are correct, in certain cases. That is why I thought it important for you to know that the news on PDN is written in English by Thai's as far as I am aware. For me it is sometimes interesting to see how they interpret stories compared to the way I do it. I try and write my stories using the "Western" way of presenting a story and they do it in a completly diferent way. Sometimes their comments could be deemed offensive or disrepsectful to us, but within Thai Culture, there comments would be acceptable.

[thaiclan]

Is this true? Are we really asking for a newspaper in Pattaya City to be "accurate" as well as "responsible"!? Watching or reading most of the news that is delivered is like pulling teeth most of the time, and any real stories get lost in the sycophant reporting of banal matters. Many worthy stories get omitted due to "treading on the wrong toes", and following up on a case is scarce. I find reading any of the publications extremely frustrating at best, but they are good for whats on in the local area :-)

[morejunk]

BODY OF ENGLISHMAN FOUND IN PATTAYA CONDO --> Pattaya Daily News : pattaya daily update news

BODY OF ENGLISHMAN FOUND IN PATTAYA CONDO

Updated: [January 10, 2008 ] :: 19:20:21 [view 111]

BODY OF ENGLISHMAN FOUND IN PATTAYA CONDO

The body of a British national was discovered in his room, at the

Niran Grand Condo, after his friend became concerned that he didn’t

answer his door. At this point, authorities believe that the man

died of natural causes.

On the morning of 9 January 2008, Pattaya Police Lieutenant Colonel

Tanagrit, along with Sawang Boriboon Rescue, responded to a report

of a deceased foreigner in Room 521/494 of the Niran Grand Condo on

Soi Arunothai, Central Pattaya. The lifeless body of Mr. Scott

Martin Hibberd (49), from North Island, England, was found inside

the bathroom by a security guard and a friend of the deceased. The

deceased man was clad in gray shorts and was not wearing a shirt.

There were several bruises on his body and his mouth was full of

saliva. On inspecting the room, police found ten pornographic

videos, as well as, a number of Viagra tablets.

Police questioned Mr. Leslie Hall (60), a friend of Mr. Hibberd, the

deceased man, who explained that he had become concerned when Mr.

Hibberd hadn’t answered his phone. He became alarmed, further, when

his friend didn’t answer his door on Wednesday morning.

A security guard at the complex opened the door to

the room, where Mr. Hibberd’s body was discovered. According

to people who knew him, Mr. Hibberd was an active man who was

often seen at the complex’s swimming pool. The victim’s

friend, Mr. Hall, lived on the same floor as Mr. Hibberd, in

Room 521 /498. He mentioned that the victim did not have to

work, as he came from a wealthy family in North Island.

Officials believe that Mr. Hibberd died of natural causes. However,

there was no evidence that he had been suffering from any illness.

The case will remain open until after an autopsy is conducted. The

British Embassy has been informed of the case.

News Type : Crime

Story : Kampee

Photo : Kampee

Translater : Sirithanon

This reporter "Kampee" is a real piece of work! He is the one that writes this kind of invasive crap almost everyday. It has absolutely nothing to do with the death. The translator is just as bad.

Edited January 10, 2008 by morejunk

[raro]

Norwegians are severely restricted back home in Norway by

prohibitive taxes on alcohol, accordingly, low-priced alcohol, is

one of the main attractions of Thailand. However, unlike normal

drinkers from elsewhere, who learn to moderate their alcohol intake,

Norwegians drink to excess in Thailand and consequently often fall

prey to alcohol poisoning. In this case, however, Mr.Sorgard had

only had two Heineken beers, leaving the evidence on the table,

along with his unpaid bar bill.

what a shame...paying the bill was the least he could have done...