Crackdown On Drug Dealing Expats

[ourmaninbangers]

exactly, this is true, and the nips only really like ' preformance drugs' that enable you to work 12 hours a day 6 days a week

Come on, ourman. Tell us the full story about the "nips", and even more importantly, about the preformance drugs.

ask away-better still all the info is out there on the net.

Or in books.In proper in-ge-lish! No, seriously, japan it seems leans towards the sorts of drugs which make you go, not

the ones which knock you out.

In japan there are websites devoted to it. You,d have to read japanese to understand it. Try taiman.com for a good full story on things up there.

Winding other people up. Degrading terms for Japanese people. False descriptions of web links.

Only one conclusion ... T-R-O-L-L

it took me less that 3 minutes to find 1 nice website for you, how long did you spend before making a statement which reflects so much about so many that post here?

Illinformed, no homework, knee jerk statements,over senstive because they know they,re wrong, illogical arguements completely off the point, over genralisations " winding people up", did I... do you know how pathetic that sounds? ahhh... didums,,, off you go, mummys waitng

and everyone being wound up- or only a few?, are you saying 100%? lets test what you say. Or only those that can be wound up, and I wonder why that is...

- so looking forward to you making that bet. I,ll send you one, just one link, I,ll save some more in case I have a chance to make more money...

Please make today, I leave soon. No bet will come. Another sign. If you have cofidence in your words, what you say- make the bet. Lets see if you stand by what you say.

Better still, stop all this, and focus on the matter at hand, stopping , or at least reducing the damage that drugs do, and how to target, define the really culpable ones

and stop this death penatly punishment crap, listen- it does,nt work, it murders many innocent

where are we for Fxxx,s sake, not exactly the worlds most shining example of a well run place is it? - who gets the gallows? Only the guilty? How can you advocate the death penalty

in a place like this?

In many ways, we,re all on the same side- are we not? What, apart from not losing money to me, do you really want?

stop this, how do you brits, oops, sorry lambs , I should say british , say pissing contest,

We,re wasting energy.

Lets piss in the same direction and put some fires out-its also fun!

[Rob_Ptty]

Maybe I've lived in Pattaya a bit too long and I am no longer able to view the world with anything but cynicism, but we all seem to be over-looking the one core issue that this latest headline snatcher is depending upon; just how dependable are the Constabulary? In a Nation where the Law Enforcers take a share of the spoils as a legitimate part of their income it is not a great stretch for them to start selling out to the highest bidder or, indeed, taking over the market themselves (which rumour has it they have already done in this neck of the woods). Taking the war to the Expat Dealers (and I am by no means saying it shouldn't happen) could also be viewed as a push to get rid of the the opposition and tightening their grip on a VERY lucrative monpoly..... sound business practice if you're a regular Thai with the standard ingrained xenophobic view of the world.

[grantbkk]

Thailand drug agency poised to bust foreign gangs

Drug agency poised to bust foreign gangs

BANGKOK: -- The anti-drug agency and police are gearing up to dismantle foreign-organised crime syndicates which have been controlling the trade in illicit drugs at some of Thailand's famous tourist destinations for years. Krissana Pol-anand, the secretary-general of the Office of the Narcotics Control Board (ONCB), said ONCB officials and drug suppression police were very concerned about the drug trade run by foreign businessmen in Phuket, Koh Samui and Pattaya.

''The drug trade run by foreign businessmen has been increasing in these areas. We're collecting evidence in order to bring these people to justice as soon as possible,'' said Pol Lt-Gen Krissana.

The ONCB yesterday held a press conference to announce its new drugs suppression policy.

Pol Lt-Gen Krissana had been transferred to an inactive post at Government House by the coup-appointed government of former prime minister Gen Surayud Chulanont. He was re-appointed as chief of the ONCB by the Samak administration a few months ago.

He said the ONCB and the police were combining forces to keep a close watch on foreign drug traders. He claimed the authorities already had a list of people involved in the illicit business.

He said foreign drug dealers, especially Africans, had run their businesses in the country's tourist destinations for years. Some opened a business office in town as a front to conceal their illegal activities from authorities, while others travelled back and forth between their countries and Thailand.

Pol Lt-Gen Krissana also expressed concern over the growing number of Thai women being deceived into marrying foreigners and being used by foreign drug dealers as couriers.

Many had been used as drug couriers, he said. Over the past two years, 82 Thai women had been arrested in China and Australia after carrying heroin from India and Pakistan via Thailand.

''I don't want Thai women to think that marrying foreigners will make their lives better because sometimes they are lured into the drug trade,'' he said.

He said the Interior Ministry had been asked to help in a campaign to educate women in rural areas about these foreign drug dealers' ploys.

He said he had instructed officials to step up suppression of the drugs trade in 22 border districts in nine provinces over the past two months. Officers had found information that large amounts of methamphetamines would flood into the country during this period.

-- Bangkok Post 2008-08-09

After reading through to page 4 it appears that the original post became lost in translation. Many recognized this press release for was it is. The typical tripe spun periodically by a figure head when it is his our her turn to say something, anything at all to seem responsible and relevant on the topic of the day.

The poor General guy has the thing prepared at his direction by an underling that may sound pretty good to the Thai people but when released to the world press in English is subject to many interpretations. The former ONCB Chief is now the current ONCB Chief and admits his target rich environment has existed for years but now he is going to do something about it.

He begins by singling out the Africans. No duh! Then he drags his country's rural women into this mess and is working to educated the "weaker" sex into the dangers of marrying them and other foreigners. It is actually pretty funny but this yearly ritual to thin the drug trade is anything but funny. The Interior Ministry is going to hand out anti-African information along with condoms?

Can the good general tell us why now the African drug dealers who have been operating "for years" are now on his radar. He was the head guy before and all this was going on right under his nose. What is new about watching entry points for drugs entering the country? A few "perp walks" and we will move onto the next big thing. That simply may be that Christmas decorations will not be put up before October to save energy. TIT

Edited August 11, 2008 by grantbkk

[Tony Clifton]

Another fine example of why a police reform is badly needed.

Then again, when most of your applicants are high school failures and kids from rich families paying for their positions in order to reap even more down the line with illegal activities while on the job, you may just as well stick a cockroach-brown uniform on each and every prisoner in Thailand.

That's why it was proposed to change the uniform's color some months ago, that's as far as they'll go.

No hope, no shame, no pride.

Edited August 11, 2008 by Tony Clifton

[IAMSOBAD]

If the same police that said there is no PORN at Pantip...and the same police that enforce traffic stops at a RED light...and if the same police that stop PROSTITUTION...and the same police that require all TAXIS MUST give rides to all requesting passengers...are the same police that enforce ILLEGAL DRUGS...DEALERS HAVE NO WORRIES.

Forgive my run-on sentence...I used Thai police to edit my comments.

What kind of QUALITY woman marries a drug dealer?

[ourmaninbangers]

Another fine example of why a police reform is badly needed.

Then again, when most of your applicants are high school failures and kids from rich families paying for their positions in order to reap even more down the line with illegal activities while on the job, you may just as well stick a cockroach-brown uniform on each and every prisoner in Thailand.

That's why it was proposed to change the uniform's color some months ago, that's as far as they'll go.

No hope, no shame, no pride.

more sense- I,am still waiting for my friend to stand by what he says about webpages.....I wonder why no reply.

[Spee]

exactly, this is true, and the nips only really like ' preformance drugs' that enable you to work 12 hours a day 6 days a week

Come on, ourman. Tell us the full story about the "nips", and even more importantly, about the preformance drugs.

ask away-better still all the info is out there on the net.

Or in books.In proper in-ge-lish! No, seriously, japan it seems leans towards the sorts of drugs which make you go, not

the ones which knock you out.

In japan there are websites devoted to it. You,d have to read japanese to understand it. Try taiman.com for a good full story on things up there.

Winding other people up. Degrading terms for Japanese people. False descriptions of web links.

Only one conclusion ... T-R-O-L-L

it took me less that 3 minutes to find 1 nice website for you, how long did you spend before making a statement which reflects so much about so many that post here?

Terms like Brits and Yanks are almost exclusively not used in derogatory context to describe British and American people. The are commonly used terms spoke with no ill intent given or taken. The word "Nip" is used in an anti-Japanese derogatory context virtually 100% of the time. Maybe just simple interpretation, but it is what it is.

The web link that you originally provided "taiman.com" is a link to phony website that provided no little if any useful information. Why didn't you simply acknowledge that you made a typo and actually meant "taima.com?"

Of course we know the answer already. You are trolling for a confrontation. Thanks but no thanks. I'll pass.

[Johnice]

Here here,

Get rid of the scum !!!

how do you define scum old chap?

Are people who sell alcohol to others in the same boat?

Is hilltribe farmer who knows know better way to feed his family, scum?

Are the legal fag dealers, the ones who target kids, scum?

Yours is the typical base reaction,

You simply cannot class everyone the same way. I might call people who makes simple spelling errors moron,s.

Uneducated, low class fools.

But they,ve probably suffered something in life to prevent them from getting it right.

By the way, you should of been ' hear, hear.

See, we all makes mistakes.

In answer to your quote/questions.

1.Scum would be the drug dealers who induce other persons to grow, sell, traffic or use an illegal substance.

2. Alcohol is legal and those who sell it to minors are scum.

3. The hilltribe farmer did grow food for his family and others until scum came and made an offer of a lot of cash if he grew plants which could be turned into drugs.

4. Cigarettes are legal and yes the person selling them to minors is scum, I presume you mean cigarettes when you say fag, as the term fag commonly refers to homosexual?

5. I would not class anyone, as an uneducated low class fool if they makes spelling mistakes.

6. How is spelt with a capitol when starting a sentence. Moron's is not spelt with a comma.

The death penalty is still given in Thailand for drug dealers who sell, deal or are in posession of a certain ammount of an "A" Class drug. I am all for the death penalty, as there are enough warnings all over the country and the world for that matter, that state the death penalty will be enforced.

" How is spelt with a capitol when starting a sentence. "

[femi fan]

i agree with terrytan....get rid of the scum....drug dealers, prostistution rings, pedophiles...these are are scum and need to be dealt with in the extreme

Anyone who bandies about the word 'scum' to describe their fellow human beings has a bit of a problem.

It says much more about them than their targets.

No state has any right to stop anybody ingesting whatever drug they wish to. Most do, but then the human world is full of all this interference by people in other people's lives.

[ourmaninbangers]

exactly, this is true, and the nips only really like ' preformance drugs' that enable you to work 12 hours a day 6 days a week

Come on, ourman. Tell us the full story about the "nips", and even more importantly, about the preformance drugs.

ask away-better still all the info is out there on the net.

Or in books.In proper in-ge-lish! No, seriously, japan it seems leans towards the sorts of drugs which make you go, not

the ones which knock you out.

In japan there are websites devoted to it. You,d have to read japanese to understand it. Try taiman.com for a good full story on things up there.

Winding other people up. Degrading terms for Japanese people. False descriptions of web links.

Only one conclusion ... T-R-O-L-L

it took me less that 3 minutes to find 1 nice website for you, how long did you spend before making a statement which reflects so much about so many that post here?

Terms like Brits and Yanks are almost exclusively not used in derogatory context to describe British and American people. The are commonly used terms spoke with no ill intent given or taken. The word "Nip" is used in an anti-Japanese derogatory context virtually 100% of the time. Maybe just simple interpretation, but it is what it is.

The web link that you originally provided "taiman.com" is a link to phony website that provided no little if any useful information. Why didn't you simply acknowledge that you made a typo and actually meant "taima.com?"

Of course we know the answer already. You are trolling for a confrontation. Thanks but no thanks. I'll pass.

"thanks but no thanks I,ll pass"- ha, ha,. ha, - I like you-YOU JUST DID THE EXACT OPPISTE my friend, YOUN DID,NT PASS! you replied

oh, you lot- what a bunch

of you coures you,ll pass- your type always does.

No choice.

Brings out non issues, a typo, a " insult" that " almost ( but not always- insulting??? backs down when put on the spot- trys to get last words.

But your answering actually shows you hav,nt passed, you trying to regain lost ground, are we not? Why bother?Okay i,ll play your way, here we are

you,re right I,am wrong, feel better now?

lets stop now, if we can stop running to mummy and look at the issues- can we do that?

look at what you write, it has nothing to do with anything, and is .. well...( I,ll ask my english friend now) weak and cry babyish..

okay- I may of madye a typo- sorry- my english is,ntn so good, you are right, it should of been taima.

You scored a real vital important point there- well spotted, its really is so important that point, changes everything,even though you probabaly knew exactly what i meant, but thats all you could get, no?

I do not even know what trolling is...now I,ve got a real one for you.. I thought you were suggest that they did,nt exist- so I wanted to prove you wrong

nips- "almost 100% of the time" is still not all the time- and stop being so senstive. In english maybe nip is sometimes rude, not all, japanes included

It has nothing to do with arguement, NOTHING

( the arguement may I remind you- is to stop calling everyone " scum" or at least define who really is- so the real guilty get focus...

the trailer trash who cry out such knee jerk " lets hang all the scum need to be carful that in their rush, the innocnet do not get caught up

which happenes alot- too much

its fools who say that " all drug dealers are scum, and should be hung, the same who say " almost", because almost is not 100%. There is no middle here.

such lables so easily given lead to wrong conclusins, we need to look deeper- now, forget the fact that I made a typo, that the lambs do not like the words i choose for jpn, do you agree with this?,

because that what this writing is about, no?

The lambs I upset did not like me pointing this out- I wonder why

" we know the answer" who,s we?,mmm, lets test it.. ops , wrong again, I got some nice personal messages, so obviously not everyone thinks like you. Again you make a wrong statement, which again, has nothign to do with anything- so, this s getting funny , a nothing about a nothing, shall we stop? please

I expect yuo,ll want the last words- go ahead. Yu are welcome...

when you do, please, if you can, make some commnet about the arguement at hand

[ourmaninbangers]

i agree with terrytan....get rid of the scum....drug dealers, prostistution rings, pedophiles...these are are scum and need to be dealt with in the extreme

Anyone who bandies about the word 'scum' to describe their fellow human beings has a bit of a problem.

It says much more about them than their targets.

No state has any right to stop anybody ingesting whatever drug they wish to. Most do, but then the human world is full of all this interference by people in other people's lives.

oh my God, my faith is resored, thank you my friend

we have someone with a brain, a thinker, who is able to talk about the issue at hand,

and makes the most important of points... yes, they do have a big probem, it is usually themselves.... they love to point the finger, because of somethign wrong in thrir own lives- that is really so often the case

exactly correct- at last. The wheat is finally sperated from the... is it... chaff...

lambs look carefully- discredit this person by looking to see if they,ve made a typo- and any " almost,but not 100% of the time' insults. I love specifics.

[jackspratt]

I have come to the conclusion that ourman has nipped out and taken some more of those preformance drugs.

[astral]

Good.

Be sure to identify what is meant by

foreign drug gangs

so we do not all get tarred with the same brush.

[ourmaninbangers]

I have come to the conclusion that ourman has nipped out and taken some more of those preformance drugs.

racist... you said the nip word "nip" did,nt you know, its almost, but not 100% of the time an insult,,,?

it trues, I had a wine, a nice vintage, yesterday, and the day before I had a coke, the drink that is, and oh yes, a red bull....

anyone ever going to address my points or stay on the side issues- I wonder why that is..?

1- do we label all illegal drug dealers as scum ? its harsh lable often bestowed upon someone who has a few problems/failing in their owns lives, and so loves to throw the book

at others. Are they really all the same? do the people who buy them bear no responsibilty?

2- should,nt we be careful about such generalisations.?

3- should we advocate the death penatly when A- it does,nt work B- so many innocents have died? ( meaning it does,nt work)

4-Should we instead of this mud throwing looking for a solution, a way forward. The current way does,nt work. People will always take them, you cannot change human nature.

5- throwing everyone in jail- the school, network centre of crime, really smart that it, they go in come out and start off all over again, far better eqipped

to do a better job than before.

And the inhuman way they,re treated makes them hate society so much they have little regard for others.

I do not know know the answers, all I know is -this is,nt working and never will, and the trailer park reaction from the ' hang ,em high' bunch -"they,re all scum" will never move things forward

[wrecker]

The article would make sense, till you read the last lines, it has nothing to do with the drug trade, it has everything to do with Xenophobia, educating people in rural areas about foreigners.

Arrest the gangs, but do not interfere in personal lives.

[Considered Opinion]

What kind of QUALITY woman marries a drug dealer?

An Immigration Police Lt Colonel from Chiang Mai?

[Tony Clifton]

The article would make sense, till you read the last lines, it has nothing to do with the drug trade, it has everything to do with Xenophobia, educating people in rural areas about foreigners.

Arrest the gangs, but do not interfere in personal lives.

Nothing to do with xenophobia, simply blaming the drug trade on foreigners while the cockroach-brown uniforms and army people dive in for their share.

[Shah Jahan]

To give the BIB some credit on backing up what they say - just a few days ago up here in the northern lands, the BKK police came and took away a Taiwanese business man who has lived here for over 20 years. The official reason was given as 'submitting improper visa application' and there are rumors abound for the other reasons. Did the newspapers do an article on this?

[danw]

Yaba is a typical Northern and Central-African drug, same as marijuana. Morocco is a big producer together with the Sahel countries. It was traditionally used by Bedouin and African tribes against fatigue and hunger. Its very popular and widely used all over Africa. In fact its a part of daily life in Africa.

Heroine is mostly produced in Afghanistan (90 % of world production) and is controlled by the Taliban and exported via the the old USSR republics and Pakistan. The trade is mostly organised by Muslims.

Cocaine is a party drug mostly used by Yuppies.

Stopping the use drug's can only achieved by fierce measures. Simply to give death penalty by overdose to every user or dealer, regardless the amount of drug's in his possession. Because their is not any reason who can justified the use of drug's.

And by drug's I also mean amphetamines, XTC or any other chemical drug.

Woah had to reply to this post, it's very misinformed. I wonder if you know of the British newspaper called the Daily Mail?

1 - I think you're confusing Yaba (a small methamphetamine based pink pill) with Khat - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khat - Khat being a plant that is popularly and traditionally harvested and used (by chewing the leaves) in African tribes - there's a HUGE difference between the 2 drugs. I'd be very surprised if Yaba was traditionally used by Bedouin tribes - it's a synthesised drug, it comes in pills that users crush up and smoke.

2 - You are well off the mark with the Taliban/Heroin remark - they did some awfully bad things in regards to human rights, but they were ANTI heroin production before they were ousted from power after the Sept 11th 2001 WTC attack - look at this news report from 1999 - http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/1999/02/19/h...ghan990219.html there are loads of links I could supply regarding this issue, but i'll stop at http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_arti...bcf8c56569a940c and an outtake from there:

An October United Nations report confirmed that the Taliban successfully eliminated opium production in Afghanistan with a ban in 2000 that was almost universally enforced. The feat was enormous: before the ban, Afghanistan supplied 90 per cent of Europe's heroin. Then, Afghanistan provided 3,276 tons of opium poppies, more than half the world's output. This year's [ie 2001's] post-ban crop, however, was a small 185 tons, over 90 percent of it from provinces under the control of America's allies the Northern Alliance.

3 - Spend some time in South America and you'll see cocaine use, in a variety of forms, is widespread from the super-rich to the destitute - granted, here in Thailand it is too expensive for the average citizen, so is mainly used by 'Hi-So' Thais or Foreigners.

4 - This is more of a subjective retort - yes, a blanket death penalty would probably reduce drug use, but killing someone for havng a joint seems overkill to me - I guess it depends on your politics and your views on individual liberty.

Edited August 15, 2008 by danw

[Spee]

Woah had to reply to this post, it's very misinformed. I wonder if you know of the British newspaper called the Daily Mail?

.....

2 - You are well off the mark with the Taliban/Heroin remark - they did some awfully bad things in regards to human rights, but they were ANTI heroin production before they were ousted from power after the Sept 11th 2001 WTC attack -

Woah ..... yourself.

It is widely acknowledged that the Taliban played both sides of the fence with the opium harvest. Their public side was the religious fanaticism of their "theocracy." The private side was quietly supporting the trade in order to siphon off the massive amount of money being generated. Of course we know today that this money has helped to fund attacks against the USA and many other freedom loving countries around the world.

It is also widely acknowledged that opium production set records in 1999 (4600 metric tons), arguably at the height of the Taliban tyranny. This is hardly reflective of the anti-heroin claims that you make.

http://www.un.org/News/briefings/docs/2004..._041118.doc.htm

And while we're at it, let's not forget the hypocritical situations in Afghanistant and neighbobrs like Iran. They both suffer from rampant heroin addiction rates, despite the radical Muslim control of governments and ungoverned lands.

[Maigo6]

You gotta love the opinions on Thai Visa abouit the worlds drug problems....

The USA has had a war on drugs for how many years ?

And guess what, until the USA citizens decide they don't wanna take illegal drugs anymore, that war will never be won.

[geriatrickid]

Change the scenario to one of tainted produce from China down at the local green grocer. Most likely, some of the people going on about the right to consume controlled substances and the infringement of liberties would be the first to chime in on the evil Chinese and how we must rid the country of the tainted produce, and of course pointing the de rigeur ciggie tar stained fingers with black fingernails at imaginary bogeymen.

If one is so quick to condemn the tainted Chinese produce, why then isn't the logic consistent with these "recreational" drugs? There is no quality control in their production and the products are almost always tainted with heavy metals, organic solvents and other toxic crud. Consider the crackdown a health and safety issue and the right of access to the products is rendered moot.

Ok, I know the other issue is one of targeting foreigners. On that, I concede that it is unfair to target a minority group. The solution then is to enforce the law fairly.

Have you stopped laughing yet? Maybe we should wait a few seconds first to compose yourself before I we discuss the Thai concept of justice and equality in law?

Mmkay, no sane person would argue that a farang will see the law enforced fairly in this matter. The reality is that this is how Thailand works. We can do the Don Quixote routine and take a stab at the turning windmill and get frustrated for naught. As an old girlfriend used to tell me when I'd ask her if there was anyway we could get the dog to stop howling and scratching at the door when we were busy; Deal with it she said, cuz the dog was there before me and he wasn't going to change no matter how much I begged, pleaded or threw shoes at the door.

[chevykanteve]

The article would make sense, till you read the last lines, it has nothing to do with the drug trade, it has everything to do with Xenophobia, educating people in rural areas about foreigners.

Arrest the gangs, but do not interfere in personal lives.

Nothing to do with xenophobia, simply blaming the drug trade on foreigners while the cockroach-brown uniforms and army people dive in for their share.

Tony, I totally agree with your cockroach-brown uniform comment. And having said that, I do remember watching a Thai TV news report, about 4 years ago, showing a Thai police Lieutenant Colonel who was pulled over at a police check-point, and arrested, for possession of many meth amp pills. I remember people, locally, cheering at this report because they could not previously conceive of a Pol Lt Col being held accountable for anything prior to the administration of Dr. Thaksin Shinawatra.

As concerns your negative comment with respect to the army people: are they not a pillar of society?

Edited August 16, 2008 by chevykanteve

[Tony Clifton]

The article would make sense, till you read the last lines, it has nothing to do with the drug trade, it has everything to do with Xenophobia, educating people in rural areas about foreigners.

Arrest the gangs, but do not interfere in personal lives.

Nothing to do with xenophobia, simply blaming the drug trade on foreigners while the cockroach-brown uniforms and army people dive in for their share.

Tony, I totally agree with your cockroach-brown uniform comment. And having said that, I do remember watching a Thai TV news report, about 4 years ago, showing a Thai police Lieutenant Colonel who was pulled over at a police check-point, and arrested, for possession of many meth amp pills. I remember people, locally, cheering at this report because they could not previously conceive of a Pol Lt Col being held accountable for anything prior to the administration of Dr. Thaksin Shinawatra.

As concerns your negative comment with respect to the army people: are they not a pillar of society?

Maybe yes, but there are plenty of bad apples there as well, we re just not exposed to them as often as we are with the brown uniforms with their in your face scams.

[Khun Ngo]

What kind of QUALITY woman marries a drug dealer?

The same kind that go for any other businessmen.

[ManInSurat]

Excuse me... does anyone perform any kind of thread moderation here? Many of these posts are completely irrelevant to the OP and as happens on many threads at TV, some trolls degenerate into their own grammar and spelling derisory olympics. WHAT PURPOSE DOES IT SERVE? It is so mind-numbingly banal and embarrassing to read.

Anyway, what on Earth is this?

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Yaba is a typical Northern and Central-African drug, same as marijuana. Morocco is a big producer together with the Sahel countries. It was traditionally used by Bedouin and African tribes against fatigue and hunger. Its very popular and widely used all over Africa. In fact its a part of daily life in Africa.

Heroine is mostly produced in Afghanistan (90 % of world production) and is controlled by the Taliban and exported via the the old USSR republics and Pakistan. The trade is mostly organised by Muslims.

Cocaine is a party drug mostly used by Yuppies.

Stopping the use drug's can only achieved by fierce measures. Simply to give death penalty by overdose to every user or dealer, regardless the amount of drug's in his possession. Because their is not any reason who can justified the use of drug's.

And by drug's I also mean amphetamines, XTC or any other chemical drug.

by ourmaninbangers

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What drivel you talk. Of anyone I have ever listened to trying to inform the masses about the production/trafficking/consumption of illegal drugs - you sincerely have no idea what you are talking about. I do not profess to be an authority on such things, but you clearly are not either - in any shape, manner or form.

Can we please get back to what the press release is about? How is Japanese drug culture in any way relevant to this?

My opinion - yes, like a*seholes; we all have one - the original press statement is some moderately xenophobic rhetoric from a newly re-appointed Pol Lt Gen, trying to give assurances that the ONCB will actually do some work in stopping the drugs trade in the tourists resorts by targeting non-Thai drug trafficking operations.

As is already succintly pointed out, the ONCB has conveniently failed to realise or acknowledge the fact that these "foreign drug dealers" must have some assistance from Thais within Thailand to continue to operate with relative impunity, probably reaching up to high authorities.

The most probable thing to happen next is - nothing. Less likely is that some busts are made in the tourist resorts and miraculously no Thais are implicated in any way. 'Nothing' is still a winner for me here.

There are better things the ONCB could be doing with their time - but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be interested in what I, or anyone else at TV has to say on the matter.

For some of its 'misgivings'; I still love Thailand. It's my adopted home. Why do the "moaning minnies" who constantly deride every aspect of this country bother to live here, if they do? Go somewhere else and try to make those countries much better with your half-assed, armchair-bred, beer-stained policies.

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Gentlemen of the spelling/grammar police - bear in mind this is a multi-cultural forum, English is not necessarily the first language of all members and if you can't - I suggest you arrange a spot to meet at and compare car values and pen*s lengths.

Some relevant posts would be warmly welcomed.

ManInSurat Out.

Edited August 17, 2008 by ManInSurat

[tallyho]

Excuse me... does anyone perform any kind of thread moderation here? Many of these posts are completely irrelevant to the OP and as happens on many threads at TV, some trolls degenerate into their own grammar and spelling derisory olympics. WHAT PURPOSE DOES IT SERVE? It is so mind-numbingly banal and embarrassing to read.

Anyway, what on Earth is this?

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Yaba is a typical Northern and Central-African drug, same as marijuana. Morocco is a big producer together with the Sahel countries. It was traditionally used by Bedouin and African tribes against fatigue and hunger. Its very popular and widely used all over Africa. In fact its a part of daily life in Africa.

Heroine is mostly produced in Afghanistan (90 % of world production) and is controlled by the Taliban and exported via the the old USSR republics and Pakistan. The trade is mostly organised by Muslims.

Cocaine is a party drug mostly used by Yuppies.

Stopping the use drug's can only achieved by fierce measures. Simply to give death penalty by overdose to every user or dealer, regardless the amount of drug's in his possession. Because their is not any reason who can justified the use of drug's.

And by drug's I also mean amphetamines, XTC or any other chemical drug.

by ourmaninbangers

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What drivel you talk. Of anyone I have ever listened to trying to inform the masses about the production/trafficking/consumption of illegal drugs - you sincerely have no idea what you are talking about. I do not profess to be an authority on such things, but you clearly are not either - in any shape, manner or form.

Can we please get back to what the press release is about? How is Japanese drug culture in any way relevant to this?

My opinion - yes, like a*seholes; we all have one - the original press statement is some moderately xenophobic rhetoric from a newly re-appointed Pol Lt Gen, trying to give assurances that the ONCB will actually do some work in stopping the drugs trade in the tourists resorts by targeting non-Thai drug trafficking operations.

As is already succintly pointed out, the ONCB has conveniently failed to realise or acknowledge the fact that these "foreign drug dealers" must have some assistance from Thais within Thailand to continue to operate with relative impunity, probably reaching up to high authorities.

The most probable thing to happen next is - nothing. Less likely is that some busts are made in the tourist resorts and miraculously no Thais are implicated in any way. 'Nothing' is still a winner for me here.

There are better things the ONCB could be doing with their time - but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be interested in what I, or anyone else at TV has to say on the matter.

For some of its 'misgivings'; I still love Thailand. It's my adopted home. Why do the "moaning minnies" who constantly deride every aspect of this country bother to live here, if they do? Go somewhere else and try to make those countries much better with your half-assed, armchair-bred, beer-stained policies.

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Gentlemen of the spelling/grammar police - bear in mind this is a multi-cultural forum, English is not necessarily the first language of all members and if you can't - I suggest you arrange a spot to meet at and compare car values and pen*s lengths.

Some relevant posts would be warmly welcomed.

ManInSurat Out.

hello

I,ve been following this. I could,nt quite get you.

I could,nt read the quote by " ourmaninbangers" you attributed to him.

Are you sure he ( she)said this? If so which page.

And I will say- that despite some over strong language he (she) does have some very valid points.

peace...

[Considered Opinion]

hello

I,ve been following this. I could,nt quite get you.

I could,nt read the quote by " ourmaninbangers" you attributed to him.

Are you sure he ( she)said this? If so which page.

And I will say- that despite some over strong language he (she) does have some very valid points.

peace...

I have been following this whole thing quite nicely thank you, then the above chimed in to try and annoy the living daylights out of a few.

Please, please, please, do NOT use commas (,) where you should have an apostrophe ('). It just is bad manners to use appalling grammar among a group of highly educated fellows such as ourselves and makes us suspect you may be Dutch, whereamong, grammar is not an issue.

Signed thoughtfully

The Grammar Police

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Thailand drug agency poised to bust foreign gangs

Drug agency poised to bust foreign gangs

BANGKOK: -- The anti-drug agency and police are gearing up to dismantle foreign-organised crime syndicates which have been controlling the trade in illicit drugs at some of Thailand's famous tourist destinations for years. Krissana Pol-anand, the secretary-general of the Office of the Narcotics Control Board (ONCB), said ONCB officials and drug suppression police were very concerned about the drug trade run by foreign businessmen in Phuket, Koh Samui and Pattaya.

''The drug trade run by foreign businessmen has been increasing in these areas. We're collecting evidence in order to bring these people to justice as soon as possible,'' said Pol Lt-Gen Krissana.

The ONCB yesterday held a press conference to announce its new drugs suppression policy.

Pol Lt-Gen Krissana had been transferred to an inactive post at Government House by the coup-appointed government of former prime minister Gen Surayud Chulanont. He was re-appointed as chief of the ONCB by the Samak administration a few months ago.

He said the ONCB and the police were combining forces to keep a close watch on foreign drug traders. He claimed the authorities already had a list of people involved in the illicit business.

He said foreign drug dealers, especially Africans, had run their businesses in the country's tourist destinations for years. Some opened a business office in town as a front to conceal their illegal activities from authorities, while others travelled back and forth between their countries and Thailand.

Pol Lt-Gen Krissana also expressed concern over the growing number of Thai women being deceived into marrying foreigners and being used by foreign drug dealers as couriers.

Many had been used as drug couriers, he said. Over the past two years, 82 Thai women had been arrested in China and Australia after carrying heroin from India and Pakistan via Thailand.

''I don't want Thai women to think that marrying foreigners will make their lives better because sometimes they are lured into the drug trade,'' he said.

He said the Interior Ministry had been asked to help in a campaign to educate women in rural areas about these foreign drug dealers' ploys.

He said he had instructed officials to step up suppression of the drugs trade in 22 border districts in nine provinces over the past two months. Officers had found information that large amounts of methamphetamines would flood into the country during this period.

-- Bangkok Post 2008-08-09

[kmart]

I'm sure that the Royal Thai Police will be doing everything in their power to stamp out drug dealing in which they or the military have no majority control of.