Pickup Engines Over 3.0l

[undercover]

I have a faint memory that any pickup with an engine over 3.0L in Thailand pay's some extra sort of tax ?

Or am I getting mixed up with Malaysia ?

[Cuban]

I understand that the annual tax rate depends on the engine size, vehicle gross weight and number of doors.

Two door pickups are treated as 'for farming use' and so get a lower tax rate compared to the same vehicle (make engine size etc.) with four doors. Two door pickups have white/green licence plates.

Vehicle gross weight; when sold by the dealer the blue book will show the factory gross weight, when aftermarket Carry Boy (etc.) load space covers are installed the gross weight is affected and so a higher tax must be paid. This has been covered on TV before in a couple of threads talking about police booking drivers for not having paid the correct (higher) tax rate for a pickup with Carry Boy fitted. I didn't believe it was true either - I checked with the local LTD. When the fitted Carry Boy is registered at the LTD a revised gross weight is listed in the blue book.

HTH

[undercover]

I understand that the annual tax rate depends on the engine size, vehicle gross weight and number of doors.

Two door pickups are treated as 'for farming use' and so get a lower tax rate compared to the same vehicle (make engine size etc.) with four doors. Two door pickups have white/green licence plates.

Vehicle gross weight; when sold by the dealer the blue book will show the factory gross weight, when aftermarket Carry Boy (etc.) load space covers are installed the gross weight is affected and so a higher tax must be paid. This has been covered on TV before in a couple of threads talking about police booking drivers for not having paid the correct (higher) tax rate for a pickup with Carry Boy fitted. I didn't believe it was true either - I checked with the local LTD. When the fitted Carry Boy is registered at the LTD a revised gross weight is listed in the blue book.

HTH

Yes I see the extra weight making the differance to the tax, so am I right in thinking what you mean is any extra engine tax would only be due to the extra weight of the 3.2 engine over the 2.5 and not a penalty for going over 3.0L ?

[kartman]

I understand that the annual tax rate depends on the engine size, vehicle gross weight and number of doors.

Two door pickups are treated as 'for farming use' and so get a lower tax rate compared to the same vehicle (make engine size etc.) with four doors. Two door pickups have white/green licence plates.

Vehicle gross weight; when sold by the dealer the blue book will show the factory gross weight, when aftermarket Carry Boy (etc.) load space covers are installed the gross weight is affected and so a higher tax must be paid. This has been covered on TV before in a couple of threads talking about police booking drivers for not having paid the correct (higher) tax rate for a pickup with Carry Boy fitted. I didn't believe it was true either - I checked with the local LTD. When the fitted Carry Boy is registered at the LTD a revised gross weight is listed in the blue book.

HTH

Yes I see the extra weight making the differance to the tax, so am I right in thinking what you mean is any extra engine tax would only be due to the extra weight of the 3.2 engine over the 2.5 and not a penalty for going over 3.0L ?

Why don't you go to your local LTD and ask them how much the road tax is for a 2.5 or 3.2 if your worried about it ?.

[torrenova]

I have a 4 door 3.0L 1 year old and paid about 8000 I think. Could be 7000 but was not a consideration. Difference between engines I don't know, doubt it really, just weight and doors (most important).

[Cuban]

Yes I see the extra weight making the differance to the tax, so am I right in thinking what you mean is any extra engine tax would only be due to the extra weight of the 3.2 engine over the 2.5 and not a penalty for going over 3.0L ?

I'm sorry that my earlier message was not clearer. It is my understanding that (I have a close friend that knows someone in the LTD- Pattaya) that the tax rate is based on gross vehicle weight and the engine size and the number of doors.

Consider an example of the 'Foyoda' pickup truck that is available with four engine options and in either two door or four door.

The tax on a two door 2.0 Lt model is 5,000 Baht.

The tax on a two door 2.7 Lt model is 5,500 Baht. (bigger engine higher tax)

The tax on a four door 2.0 Lt model is 6,000 Baht. (four doors higher tax)

The tax on a four door 3.0 Lt model is 6,500 Baht.

The tax on a four door 3.0 Lt model with a registered Carry Boy is 7,000 Baht. (higher gross weight)

The tax on a four door 4.0 Lt model with a registered Carry Boy is 7,500 Baht. (bigger engine size)

I would expect that the 3.2 Lt engine weighs more than a 2.7 Lt engine and both it's weight and the cubic capacity contribute to the LTD's calculation on road tax rate. I would guess that there is a banding factor that makes engines over 3.0 Lt incur more tax, where the exact boundaries are I do not know but can guess that the common engine size options here indicate that 1.3, 1.5, 2.2 and 2.7 all cater to different aspects of power to weight ratio and vehicle taxation. Selection is probably driven by the maker's marketing departments rather than the engineers as it allows their advertizing to focus on comparing cheaper running costs of the "Foyoda" than the "Nisuia Menz".

[undercover]

Yeah I think we've about got it sorted with the Foyoda" than the "Nisuia Menz.

Thing is I know for my 2 door pickup the tax is just over 1,000 baht so the 8,000 whatever for the 4 door is another extra expence to go along with all the other extra expences to be obsorbed.

As for the (Why don't you go to your local LTD and ask them how much the road tax is for a 2.5 or 3.2 if your worried about it ?)

Yes your right that would be the best thing it's just so easy to sit here asking you

Also you know as well as me this is TiT. two people go down there asking the same question and walk away with two diferent answer's.

[kartman]

Yeah I think we've about got it sorted with the Foyoda" than the "Nisuia Menz.

Thing is I know for my 2 door pickup the tax is just over 1,000 baht so the 8,000 whatever for the 4 door is another extra expence to go along with all the other extra expences to be obsorbed.

As for the (Why don't you go to your local LTD and ask them how much the road tax is for a 2.5 or 3.2 if your worried about it ?)

Yes your right that would be the best thing it's just so easy to sit here asking you

Also you know as well as me this is TiT. two people go down there asking the same question and walk away with two diferent answer's.

And as you know this is Thai Visa so would be eight less answers than you have been given here, none from actual owners of 2.5s or 3.2s

[torrenova]

Yeah I think we've about got it sorted with the Foyoda" than the "Nisuia Menz.

Thing is I know for my 2 door pickup the tax is just over 1,000 baht so the 8,000 whatever for the 4 door is another extra expence to go along with all the other extra expences to be obsorbed.

As for the (Why don't you go to your local LTD and ask them how much the road tax is for a 2.5 or 3.2 if your worried about it ?)

Yes your right that would be the best thing it's just so easy to sit here asking you

Also you know as well as me this is TiT. two people go down there asking the same question and walk away with two diferent answer's.

Your figures for a 2 door are ballpark from what I heard (I think this question was asked somewhere some time ago). The 4 door car was much more and the 4 door pickup was more expensive again but not by that much.

I put it akin to an agricultural (2 door pick up) versus passenger (4 door car or pick up) vehicle difference which exists in the UK for sure and I am sure elsewhere.

I know it is another expense but just what percentages are we talking here ?

Say the difference is Bt6000

Annual depreciation - 120,000

Insurance - 30,000

Fuel - 30,000

Maintenance etc. - 10,000

Total annual expenditure - 190,000

Therefore, your extra 6,000 is actually only just over 3% extra per annum of your total ownership costs. Is that really worth worrying about ?

[Plus]

The tax barrier for engine size for pickups used to be 3.0l, but Mitsubishi successfully lobbied for 3.25 to keep their new Triton in the same tax bracket.

[torrenova]

So really, anyone here with a 3.2 Triton should be able to say what the tax is and if it is the same as a 3.0 D-Max then it is about 7/8k.