Right where do i start, i've been married to my thai wife for 5 years living back in England for 4 an a half years before that we lived in Thailand and had a restaurant in chaing-mai where my mother-in-law lived with us for 4 years in total i have known her 11 years.

we came here when we lived in thailand and got a tourist visa for my wife . after that we got a married visa then after 2 years she got a indefinate visa . we got the visa in july and arrived in august when we applied for this visa in july we was told that it did not finish until august and had to pay the fee again. we did not want to cause problems so we just paid the fee. now my wife has british passport . we told our friend about this and they applied on the date his wife arrived . they were told that she and the baby were over stayers and that they had to leave the country.

in 2006 we brought her mum over for 6 months on a visa . she returned before the finish date. yesterday we applied for a elderly visa for 2 years which we paid £ 515 and was turn down at the interview on the ground that my wife has a brother and he works. also she said not much has changed since we had left and that she was going to look after our baby while my wife work. our baby is due in february 09.

my mother-in-law is a 66 year old proud thai lady and if the truth be know her son is a 35 year man who owns nothing drive my motorbike come to his mum when he is drunk and his wife has thrown him out or when he is hungry. he has a son which i pay his school fee or he would never go. he is a loser. we send her money every month she lives in bangkok in a small village area she is scared af being attacked so she don't go out at night. and as looking after our baby she has not got a chance as this means my wife don't have to work any more.

i have a small electrical company and some of my workers don't earn £515 a week let a lone in 2 hours like the embassy.

can anyone help on what we do next???

thanks for reading this

your Darren

If you feel that your MiL's refusal was unjustified then you can appeal, the refusal notice will give details of how to do this.

However, as you can see from Chapter 15 - Entry for settlement: parents, grandparents, other dependent relatives , settlemnt in the UK for an adult relative is very difficult. Therefore I would recommend that you seek professional advice in the UK from a solicitor specialising in immigration or from an OISC registered immigration advisor, such as the one who sponsors this forum.

Do not approach a visa agent in Thailand. Many are unqualified crooks and I doubt even the honest ones would have the knowledge or expertise to deal with a complex and difficult case like this.

Good luck.

Personally knowing Darren, his wife Nok and their mother in law i think the way they are being treated in a absolute disgrace. As he mentions they've always done everything by the book and have only ever received grief back.

As Darren explained it to me, the major problem with their claim was that the mother in law when questioned about her life in Thailand wrongly painted a picture that everything was perfect, the truth is quite the opposite. Since Nok left she has had to be supported with money sent from England and her son is nothing but a useless sponger who contributes nothing to their living costs.

Could their grounds for appeal be that the mother in law didn't realise the importance of confessing how bad her life was and so when asked about it by a complete stranger pride kicked in and she said the opposite?

I think we can all understand how a 66 year old would be reluctant to openly tell people how bad their life is, especially when they don't consider it vital to their claim.

It baffles me that when all the criteria seems to be met they still turn people down, what more can they do? Makes me wonder if it's just part of the clamping down on the non EU applicants being allowed in?

Anyway i hope they get a lot of sound advice and for the sake of sanity they win the appeal.

Paul.

the major problem with their claim was that the mother in law when questioned about her life in Thailand wrongly painted a picture that everything was perfect.........It baffles me that when all the criteria seems to be met they still turn people down

The visa officer can only make a judgement on the evidence put before them. From what you have said it would appear that the evidence presented showed that the criteria were not met. That this evidence was incorrect was not the fault of the visa officer.

Could their grounds for appeal be that the mother in law didn't realise the importance of confessing how bad her life was and so when asked about it by a complete stranger pride kicked in and she said the opposite?

That, I feel, is a question for a professional.

the major problem with their claim was that the mother in law when questioned about her life in Thailand wrongly painted a picture that everything was perfect.........It baffles me that when all the criteria seems to be met they still turn people down

The visa officer can only make a judgement on the evidence put before them. From what you have said it would appear that the evidence presented showed that the criteria were not met. That this evidence was incorrect was not the fault of the visa officer.

Could their grounds for appeal be that the mother in law didn't realise the importance of confessing how bad her life was and so when asked about it by a complete stranger pride kicked in and she said the opposite?

That, I feel, is a question for a professional.