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Entertainment venues to be required to carry third-party insurance

The Interior Ministry has announced it will require all entertainment venues to carry thirdparty insurance.

"We're drafting a new ministerial regulation, and we want it to take effect about the middle of next month," Deputy Interior Minister Boonjong Wongtrairat said yesterday.

He was speaking after chairing a meeting on entertainment venues.

Relevant authorities have paid extra attention to entertainment venues after the huge fire that engulfed santika Pub at a New Year's Eve countdown party, killing at least 66 people and injuring many more.

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But Santika was not registered as an entertainment venue. It was registered as a food shop any was yet allowed to operate for years by the completely corrupt police who were making a considerable amount of money out of it.

And therein lies the loophole that renders this latest bit of whitewashing pointless. Without enforcement all laws, police orders ministerial decrees are nothing but hot air.

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But Santika was not registered as an entertainment venue. It was registered as a food shop any was yet allowed to operate for years by the completely corrupt police who were making a considerable amount of money out of it.

And therein lies the loophole that renders this latest bit of whitewashing pointless. Without enforcement all laws, police orders ministerial decrees are nothing but hot air.

indeed.... lots of hot air

....as was the government's offer to pay everyone's hospital bills.... just hot air, they now claim they never said it...even though it was in all thai newspapers and tv news bulletins

my friend has a 345,000 bht bill, bangkok hospital were nice enough to give him a 50% discount....it was almost 700,000 bht....

....an expensive new years eve night out !!

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But Santika was not registered as an entertainment venue. It was registered as a food shop any was yet allowed to operate for years by the completely corrupt police who were making a considerable amount of money out of it.

And therein lies the loophole that renders this latest bit of whitewashing pointless. Without enforcement all laws, police orders ministerial decrees are nothing but hot air.

indeed.... lots of hot air

....as was the government's offer to pay everyone's hospital bills.... just hot air, they now claim they never said it...even though it was in all thai newspapers and tv news bulletins

my friend has a 345,000 bht bill, bangkok hospital were nice enough to give him a 50% discount....it was almost 700,000 bht....

....an expensive new years eve night out !!

So you can see from this the 100,000 per person they are talking about for venues to cover people will hardly go anywhere, even Golf courses here are not required to carry public liability insurance, so if you get hit by a ball or any other injury you would be on your own.

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But Santika was not registered as an entertainment venue. It was registered as a food shop any was yet allowed to operate for years by the completely corrupt police who were making a considerable amount of money out of it.

And therein lies the loophole that renders this latest bit of whitewashing pointless. Without enforcement all laws, police orders ministerial decrees are nothing but hot air.

indeed.... lots of hot air

....as was the government's offer to pay everyone's hospital bills.... just hot air, they now claim they never said it...even though it was in all thai newspapers and tv news bulletins

my friend has a 345,000 bht bill, bangkok hospital were nice enough to give him a 50% discount....it was almost 700,000 bht....

....an expensive new years eve night out !!

So you can see from this the 100,000 per person they are talking about for venues to cover people will hardly go anywhere, even Golf courses here are not required to carry public liability insurance, so if you get hit by a ball or any other injury you would be on your own.

But most golf injuries only affect one person. As we saw, a night club burning down can have much worse consequences. I think it's safe to say that there are fire hazards in many entertainment venues in Thailand (probably even the ones that are licensed as such).

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Do the words 'horse' and stable door' leap to mind? :o

Maybe an updated Building and Fire code that are actually enforced and followed up would be better than third party insurance cover to compensate the dead and injured.

What a country.!!!!!!!!

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Maybe you could offer the punters insurance when they pay the door charge. "That'll be 2000 baht for entrance fee, and, for a small extra charge, how about insurance? The premium depends on the type of cover, from a spilled drink, through accidental stamping on foot on the dance floor, burning your mouth on a hot spring roll, getting in a fight, losing your girl to a better dancer, up to the all inclusive burning the place down. Money well spent sir!"

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As a previous poster said, Santika wasn't licensed as an entertainment venue. A lot of the places that should be licensed, aren't. The police haven't granted them licenses, in part, because they can't collect large sums of money. So this law will be a farce.

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Nah , I think you have all missed the clever(Foxy) rational , it is okay to go partying again in all of these unsafe venues so that we can still take our cut because now you will all be insured , even if you do burn to death .

There is an old sailors adage "Pull the ladder up Jack , I'M ON BOARD ' :o

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Ok so they require insurance, just like they require "safety" compliance. The thing is that if they don't enforce it, it becomes another useless law. They would do better to have a proper inspection unit that had the power to immediately close venues, or to post a rating. If you look at some major cities, the local health authorities oblige the restos to post the quality standard at the door, A, B, C etc. Won't happen in my lifetime, but it's a nice dream.

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Ok so they require insurance, just like they require "safety" compliance. The thing is that if they don't enforce it, it becomes another useless law. They would do better to have a proper inspection unit that had the power to immediately close venues, or to post a rating. If you look at some major cities, the local health authorities oblige the restos to post the quality standard at the door, A, B, C etc. Won't happen in my lifetime, but it's a nice dream.

You are forgetting one very important factor , this is THAILAND , you do not nor likely never will have a say in how it is run or controlled , you just happen to be an unwanted guest(?) just shut the fork up , pay your dues or leave , only the wanabees have a vested dream to dream . Only when you have learned to live in the restrictive environment of the jungle , eating low vitamin content food will you be allowed to voice an opinion , until then , <deleted> please .

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But Santika was not registered as an entertainment venue. It was registered as a food shop any was yet allowed to operate for years by the completely corrupt police who were making a considerable amount of money out of it.

And therein lies the loophole that renders this latest bit of whitewashing pointless. Without enforcement all laws, police orders ministerial decrees are nothing but hot air.

Thank you for your Truthful and accurate post.

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The problem seems to be that the police tend to deny entertainment licences routinely because they want to collect monthly rent for allowing them to operate without a licence, as mentioned in posts above. In addition, entertainment places, at least the smaller ones, don't particularly want an entertainment licence because of the excise tax imposed on luxuries like massages and entertainment places by the Thaksin government in 2003. For entertainment places this is I think a whopping 10% of top line revenues. Santika therefore owes a huge amount of back excise tax. For most small places they could easily pay 10 times as much in excise tax as they have to pay the police and the police payment is inclusive of turning a blind eye to late opening and other things too. Somehow I don't think Santika will change much. After the hand wringing has died down it will be back to business as usual. The Abhisit govt has made clear that it is too weak and too indebted to take on the military over human rights abuses and it also has too much on its plate to take on the police.

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