Starving Falang In Ratchada Area Bkk

[VespaSeeker]

Hi , i am spending more and more time in Ratchada lately at my GF's condominium , problem is she only eats in Shooping Malls , Esplanade ,Central Etc and does not know any restaurants around Ratchada or even Latphroa and i dont want to be driving to Nana area 3 times a day just to eat .

I live in Pattaya so i am spoilt for choice as far as restaurants go ,, i eat almost anything except for junk food the likes of which found in Malls , Fuji is about as low as i can go !

So can anybody please recomend some places i could get a decent english breakfast in the morning and a good steak house for the evenings , cost is not a problem as i like to eat quality food and have no arguments with paying a little extra for decent food .

Thai food is also fine with me as long as have meat dishes on the Menu , i was in Ratchada last night and went to a restaurant called The Pool club ,, great set up , cool band , terrible food , high prices , and what was more worrying was the place was full !! Seems most people just dont care about what they eating !

[MeetJohnDoe]

i eat almost anything except for junk food...anybody please recomend a[n] english breakfast...Seems most people just dont care about what they eating

[wasabi]

FULL ENGLISH BREAKFAST. Accept no substitute. Only the very fullest. The most English and most breakfast for you my man.

Edited April 25, 2009 by wasabi

[rgs2001uk]

FULL ENGLISH BREAKFAST, the choice of champions.

[surface]

There are buffets in the hotels along Ratchada. I think that's about as close to an English breakfast as you're going to get without going down to Suk.

Edited April 25, 2009 by surface

[Texpat]

Would a 3/4 English breakfast be satisfying 3/4 of the time?

Or only three-quarters as satisfying as a full one?

It's all very confusing.

[Ulysses G.]

i eat almost anything except for junk food So can anybody please recomend some places i could get a decent english breakfast

Is this guy funnin' us?

[RandyWhite]

Here's a suggestion: buy the scooter, sell the car and get a life.

[phetaroi]

Here's a suggestion: buy the scooter, sell the car and get a life.

If someone cannot find good food to eat in Bangkok, they should be put on a feeding tube...preferably in another country.

[VespaSeeker]

Sadly like i thought , no idea about good quality food ,

Having had my body Metabolic tested to attain the correct food groups for my Metabolic type i am a Protein type which basically means i have to eat more meats then carbs , Meats being protein which makes up 40% of my diet intake ,, the other being 30% fat and 30% carbohydrate , now as i attend the gym 4 times a week a Engllish breakfast is what i require hence i was asking about a good quality English breakfast which for me has to contain quality pork sausage ,bacon fried egg and low sugar beans , Toast and good quality butter which for any Pattaya experts can be found at Yorkies restaurant on the Jomtiem Beach Road .

So if anybody with any knowledge of food and is not happy to eat the rubbish to be found in most tourist establishments , your helpfull comments will be most welcome , for the rest of you early posters on your cheap processed food diets good luck in the cancer wards !

[new2bangkok]

Having had my body Metabolic tested to attain the correct food groups for my Metabolic type i am a Protein type which basically means i have to eat more meats then carbs , Meats being protein which makes up 40% of my diet intake ,, the other being 30% fat and 30% carbohydrate

//offtopic

Where did you take that test? I'm always struggling to find out the best macronutrient percentage to gain some solid muscle.

[Enjibenji]

i was in ratchada for 4 months in an apartment. It's easy to get food there. Pay less than 100 baht and you'll have a pretty good breakfast/lunch. If you like fine dining just take a taxi to a proper restaurant at night? You can easily eat well.

Did you try sizzler restaurants? None in esplanade if i remember right but if your girlfriend likes going to centralworld then you can easily go to MBK. Cheap steak and eat until your heart is content

Edited April 25, 2009 by Enjibenji

[phetaroi]

Sadly like i thought , no idea about good quality food ,

Having had my body Metabolic tested to attain the correct food groups for my Metabolic type i am a Protein type which basically means i have to eat more meats then carbs , Meats being protein which makes up 40% of my diet intake ,, the other being 30% fat and 30% carbohydrate , now as i attend the gym 4 times a week a Engllish breakfast is what i require hence i was asking about a good quality English breakfast which for me has to contain quality pork sausage ,bacon fried egg and low sugar beans , Toast and good quality butter which for any Pattaya experts can be found at Yorkies restaurant on the Jomtiem Beach Road .

So if anybody with any knowledge of food and is not happy to eat the rubbish to be found in most tourist establishments , your helpfull comments will be most welcome , for the rest of you early posters on your cheap processed food diets good luck in the cancer wards !

So let me see if I understand this -- bacon, sausage, and eggs are key to preventing stomach and intestinal cancer. Hmmmmm. Funny, I NEVER heard that before.

[BugJackBaron]

Sadly like i thought , no idea about good quality food ,

Having had my body Metabolic tested to attain the correct food groups for my Metabolic type i am a Protein type which basically means i have to eat more meats then carbs , Meats being protein which makes up 40% of my diet intake ,, the other being 30% fat and 30% carbohydrate , now as i attend the gym 4 times a week a Engllish breakfast is what i require hence i was asking about a good quality English breakfast which for me has to contain quality pork sausage ,bacon fried egg and low sugar beans , Toast and good quality butter which for any Pattaya experts can be found at Yorkies restaurant on the Jomtiem Beach Road .

So if anybody with any knowledge of food and is not happy to eat the rubbish to be found in most tourist establishments , your helpfull comments will be most welcome , for the rest of you early posters on your cheap processed food diets good luck in the cancer wards !

So let me see if I understand this -- bacon, sausage, and eggs are key to preventing stomach and intestinal cancer. Hmmmmm. Funny, I NEVER heard that before.

Well...I have hung around vegetarians all my life and believe me they are not any healthier on average than

the rest of the population..

Not sure about the bacon., however the OP does have a point about finding quality MEAT at reasonable prices

in Bangkok. This is not Canada where prices are more or less the same whatever part of the city

you are in. Bangkok is EXTREMELY price sensitive so my advice would be not to try anywhere

on the big tourist trap trail of Sukamavit. Woodstock bar off soi 55(15 baht motorcycle ride) gave me

the closest thing I have had yet to a real cheeseburger at a very affordable price.

Note too that in Phuket and Chiang Mai and even in parts of Pattaya you can get better value

for your money than in Bangkok

Edited April 26, 2009 by BugJackBaron

[soundman]

Try 13 Coins Restaurant in the Soi next to Grand Hotel near Rachada / Suttisarn Intersection.

Pretty good food, great selection & open 24 hours in case you get an attack of the starves at 4.00am.

Also some of the best authentic korean restaurants in Thailand on that soi. The menus aren't even in Thai, let alone English. Basically, the only thing you do to order is decide whether it be beef or pork & the staff do the rest.

[tb86]

for good meat try

madison at four seasons

or

ny steakhouse at jw mariott?

for burgers

try

triple o or garage burger both at central world

as far as english breakfast goes, i have no idea, you can always buy what you want from villa and cook at home.....

Edited April 26, 2009 by tb86

[thecatman]

Try 13 Coins Restaurant in the Soi next to Grand Hotel near Rachada / Suttisarn Intersection.

Pretty good food, great selection & open 24 hours in case you get an attack of the starves at 4.00am.

OMG!! I think we can do a bit better than this in Ratchada if you're looking for somewhere to take the G/F.

Try either The Emerald Hotel there are 3 or 4 restaurants there including a Japanese buffet, Thai buffet, and Chinese restaurant. They also do a good buffet breakfast with all you could wish for.

Or even better, you could try The Chaophya Park Hotel a little further up Ratchada which has 4/5 restaurants. I've eaten here a few times now and find it very good. The Chinese restaurant 'Garden Court' is fantastic and the 'Al Massimo' in the evenings is also very good, they also have steaks on the menu. I haven't tried the buffet breakfast on offer here, but my parents have (as well as trying The Emerald's) and they said that the selection of foods on offer was unreal, they had everything you could imagine.

Both these Hotels have comfortable lounge bars were you can enjoy a drink or 2 before/after your meal while enjoying the singing entertainment on show.

Footnote: Maybe not to the taste of the OP, but for a good English breakfast on the cheap (185Bt) you can't beat Soi 8 Pub on errr..........Sukhumvit Soi 8

Edited April 26, 2009 by thecatman

[RAZZELL]

Hi , i am spending more and more time in Ratchada lately at my GF's condominium , problem is she only eats in Shooping Malls , Esplanade ,Central Etc and does not know any restaurants around Ratchada or even Latphroa and i dont want to be driving to Nana area 3 times a day just to eat .

I live in Pattaya so i am spoilt for choice as far as restaurants go ,, i eat almost anything except for junk food the likes of which found in Malls , Fuji is about as low as i can go !

So can anybody please recomend some places i could get a decent english breakfast in the morning and a good steak house for the evenings , cost is not a problem as i like to eat quality food and have no arguments with paying a little extra for decent food .

Thai food is also fine with me as long as have meat dishes on the Menu , i was in Ratchada last night and went to a restaurant called The Pool club ,, great set up , cool band , terrible food , high prices , and what was more worrying was the place was full !! Seems most people just dont care about what they eating !

Sorry not in Ratchada but the breakfast in The Dubliner is massive!

RAZZ

[VespaSeeker]

Having had my body Metabolic tested to attain the correct food groups for my Metabolic type i am a Protein type which basically means i have to eat more meats then carbs , Meats being protein which makes up 40% of my diet intake ,, the other being 30% fat and 30% carbohydrate

//offtopic

Where did you take that test? I'm always struggling to find out the best macronutrient percentage to gain some solid muscle.

If you're looking for a self-test, one is available in the book, The Metabolic Typing Diet, published by Doubleday, available in bookstores and online at www.amazon.com and www.barnesandnoble.com <LI>If you would like to have a Healthexcel Metabolic Typing Advisor, you can :

• phone MTEC ( Metabolic Typing Education Center ) at ( 650 ) 325-1840, or
  
• surf to www.MetabolicEd.com , or
  
• send an Email to [email protected]
  

May i also suggest you obtain a copy of Nourishing Traditions The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats. Second Edition, by Sally Fallon with Mary G Enig, ...

This book will confirm what i was trying to get across before , that quality of foods ,especially meats is very important in any diet you may consider .

Good luck

Edited April 26, 2009 by VespaSeeker

[VespaSeeker]

Sadly like i thought , no idea about good quality food ,

Having had my body Metabolic tested to attain the correct food groups for my Metabolic type i am a Protein type which basically means i have to eat more meats then carbs , Meats being protein which makes up 40% of my diet intake ,, the other being 30% fat and 30% carbohydrate , now as i attend the gym 4 times a week a Engllish breakfast is what i require hence i was asking about a good quality English breakfast which for me has to contain quality pork sausage ,bacon fried egg and low sugar beans , Toast and good quality butter which for any Pattaya experts can be found at Yorkies restaurant on the Jomtiem Beach Road .

So if anybody with any knowledge of food and is not happy to eat the rubbish to be found in most tourist establishments , your helpfull comments will be most welcome , for the rest of you early posters on your cheap processed food diets good luck in the cancer wards !

So let me see if I understand this -- bacon, sausage, and eggs are key to preventing stomach and intestinal cancer. Hmmmmm. Funny, I NEVER heard that before.

May i suggest the purchase a copy of Nourishing Traditions The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats. Second Edition, by Sally Fallon with Mary G Enig, ...

If you do not wish to do so then think about this , i shall use USA as a example , 96% of the American population is over weight and as a nation are number 1 in the world for poor health ,

So do you think low fat diets really keep us healthy ? Our ancestors thrived on traditional diets including many animal organs and fats .

Before the invention of processed foods many cancers was un-heard of .

[surface]

Our ancestors also lived to the ripe old age of 40.

That's if they were lucky.

Edited April 26, 2009 by surface

[cat5]

Hi , i am spending more and more time in Ratchada lately at my GF's condominium , problem is she only eats in Shooping Malls , Esplanade ,Central Etc and does not know any restaurants around Ratchada or even Latphroa and i dont want to be driving to Nana area 3 times a day just to eat .

I live in Pattaya so i am spoilt for choice as far as restaurants go ,, i eat almost anything except for junk food the likes of which found in Malls , Fuji is about as low as i can go !

So can anybody please recomend some places i could get a decent english breakfast in the morning and a good steak house for the evenings , cost is not a problem as i like to eat quality food and have no arguments with paying a little extra for decent food .

Thai food is also fine with me as long as have meat dishes on the Menu , i was in Ratchada last night and went to a restaurant called The Pool club ,, great set up , cool band , terrible food , high prices , and what was more worrying was the place was full !! Seems most people just dont care about what they eating !

As money is no problem, why don't you get your girlfriend a decent condo with a kitchen? Then you can eat your cancer-cutting meat-eating delights as often as you like. If you want good food, eat at home.

[BugJackBaron]

Our ancestors also lived to the ripe old age of 40.

That's if they were lucky.

Depends on whose ancestors. North American indians, assuming they didn't die

of some disease brought by europeans and were not killed in battle, lived

long and were reported to be incredibly tough. I guarantee you they were

not eating Cheerios for breakfast.

In colder climates people often succumbed to starvation and infection but

those who lived long lived long and healthy. So it was no picnic and antibiotics

would have been welcome even then. The point is to take what was best from the past and use it

together with what is best from the present - which is certainly not our diet.

Edited April 27, 2009 by BugJackBaron

[phetaroi]

If you do not wish to do so then think about this , i shall use USA as a example , 96% of the American population is over weight and as a nation are number 1 in the world for poor health ,

So do you think low fat diets really keep us healthy ? Our ancestors thrived on traditional diets including many animal organs and fats .

Before the invention of processed foods many cancers was un-heard of .

While I do agree with you -- to some extent -- about processed foods, saying that many cancers were unheard of is not really accurate. Today we virtually always diagnose a death, either in advance during the illness stage or afterwords via autopsy. In the "old days" death certificates said people died of "old age" or "natural causes", and those deaths were often caused by cancer that was not detected or yet identified.

[BugJackBaron]

If you do not wish to do so then think about this , i shall use USA as a example , 96% of the American population is over weight and as a nation are number 1 in the world for poor health ,

So do you think low fat diets really keep us healthy ? Our ancestors thrived on traditional diets including many animal organs and fats .

Before the invention of processed foods many cancers was un-heard of .

While I do agree with you -- to some extent -- about processed foods, saying that many cancers were unheard of is not really accurate. Today we virtually always diagnose a death, either in advance during the illness stage or afterwords via autopsy. In the "old days" death certificates said people died of "old age" or "natural causes", and those deaths were often caused by cancer that was not detected or yet identified.

It is important to get the time-line understood here.

If we are talking about one or two centuries ago in the western

world of that time then sure the accuracy of diagnosis is not

as good as it is now.

But there is another school of thought that really talks about pre-agricultural

man(Which is probably before they even issued death certificates.

There is evidence that people were healthier before the advent

of agriculture. We are not just talking about cancer here but

also diabetes(which increased in Thailand after the introduction of cane sugar)

, osteoporosis, arthritis and other "disesases of modern civilization".

This has been verified by analysis of skeletons at various archeological sites.

www.paleodiet.com has more information.

[phetaroi]

If you do not wish to do so then think about this , i shall use USA as a example , 96% of the American population is over weight and as a nation are number 1 in the world for poor health ,

So do you think low fat diets really keep us healthy ? Our ancestors thrived on traditional diets including many animal organs and fats .

Before the invention of processed foods many cancers was un-heard of .

While I do agree with you -- to some extent -- about processed foods, saying that many cancers were unheard of is not really accurate. Today we virtually always diagnose a death, either in advance during the illness stage or afterwords via autopsy. In the "old days" death certificates said people died of "old age" or "natural causes", and those deaths were often caused by cancer that was not detected or yet identified.

It is important to get the time-line understood here.

If we are talking about one or two centuries ago in the western

world of that time then sure the accuracy of diagnosis is not

as good as it is now.

But there is another school of thought that really talks about pre-agricultural

man(Which is probably before they even issued death certificates.

There is evidence that people were healthier before the advent

of agriculture. We are not just talking about cancer here but

also diabetes(which increased in Thailand after the introduction of cane sugar)

, osteoporosis, arthritis and other "disesases of modern civilization".

This has been verified by analysis of skeletons at various archeological sites.

www.paleodiet.com has more information.

Very interesting. I was speaking of much more modern. I hate to admit I was alive in the 1950's (egads!), but even the degree to which nutrition and general health has changed in that amount of time is fascinating. I remember in the 1950's if someone had a heart attack it was pretty much assumed they would die. Many (perhaps even most) cancer patients were fighting a losing battle.

It's also tempting to point to the longevity of people back in the mid-1900s and say look, my grandfather ate tons of fatty bacon and eggs and whole milk and.... And mine did. But on the other hand, my grandfather's generation didn't sit at a desk, did much more physical labor through their 50s and even 60s. I think the difference was their un-stylish exercise and work ethic.

Just out of curiosity, do you have a particular interest in paleo cultures?

[BugJackBaron]

If you do not wish to do so then think about this , i shall use USA as a example , 96% of the American population is over weight and as a nation are number 1 in the world for poor health ,

So do you think low fat diets really keep us healthy ? Our ancestors thrived on traditional diets including many animal organs and fats .

Before the invention of processed foods many cancers was un-heard of .

While I do agree with you -- to some extent -- about processed foods, saying that many cancers were unheard of is not really accurate. Today we virtually always diagnose a death, either in advance during the illness stage or afterwords via autopsy. In the "old days" death certificates said people died of "old age" or "natural causes", and those deaths were often caused by cancer that was not detected or yet identified.

It is important to get the time-line understood here.

If we are talking about one or two centuries ago in the western

world of that time then sure the accuracy of diagnosis is not

as good as it is now.

But there is another school of thought that really talks about pre-agricultural

man(Which is probably before they even issued death certificates.

There is evidence that people were healthier before the advent

of agriculture. We are not just talking about cancer here but

also diabetes(which increased in Thailand after the introduction of cane sugar)

, osteoporosis, arthritis and other "disesases of modern civilization".

This has been verified by analysis of skeletons at various archeological sites.

www.paleodiet.com has more information.

Very interesting. I was speaking of much more modern. I hate to admit I was alive in the 1950's (egads!), but even the degree to which nutrition and general health has changed in that amount of time is fascinating. I remember in the 1950's if someone had a heart attack it was pretty much assumed they would die. Many (perhaps even most) cancer patients were fighting a losing battle.

It's also tempting to point to the longevity of people back in the mid-1900s and say look, my grandfather ate tons of fatty bacon and eggs and whole milk and.... And mine did. But on the other hand, my grandfather's generation didn't sit at a desk, did much more physical labor through their 50s and even 60s. I think the difference was their un-stylish exercise and work ethic.

Just out of curiosity, do you have a particular interest in paleo cultures?

Yes, it's true that modern medicine is getting much better at keeping heart-attack victims

alive with surgery, pacemakers and whatnot. The question is for me not just

longevity but quality of life.

Paleo cultures, as long as we don't idealize them, provide an interesting contrast

to modern society and lifestyle.

I think your grandfather may have been eating

higher quality eggs and bacon as well as having access

to better air and as you say doing more exercise.

Does anyone really believe that the quality

of food in the western world, or anywhere, is getting better?

In the last ten years I have felt it has gotten a lot worse.

It's all just marketing and processed crap now ...

I blame globalization in part.

[thecatman]

Hi , i am spending more and more time in Ratchada lately at my GF's condominium , problem is she only eats in Shooping Malls , Esplanade ,Central Etc and does not know any restaurants around Ratchada or even Latphroa and i dont want to be driving to Nana area 3 times a day just to eat .

I live in Pattaya so i am spoilt for choice as far as restaurants go ,, i eat almost anything except for junk food the likes of which found in Malls , Fuji is about as low as i can go !

So can anybody please recomend some places i could get a decent english breakfast in the morning and a good steak house for the evenings , cost is not a problem as i like to eat quality food and have no arguments with paying a little extra for decent food .

Thai food is also fine with me as long as have meat dishes on the Menu , i was in Ratchada last night and went to a restaurant called The Pool club ,, great set up , cool band , terrible food , high prices , and what was more worrying was the place was full !! Seems most people just dont care about what they eating !

I keep checking back on this thread, as the OP's original request was for places to dine out at on Ratchada/Lad Phrao. An area I'd also be interesting in learning more about and hearing other peoples views about.

But instead we get posting after posting about diets and stuff, which is totally irrelevent to the OP's main objective of this thread. The OP hasn't helped matters by 'taking the bait' and getting into a discussion on the irrelevent subject(s).

So the guy likes to try and eat well and enjoys good food, but also enjoys the occasional English breakfast, big deal...get over it. No need to turn the whole thread on him (typical Thai visa style). Can we please get back to the original point of this whole thread please and give the OP some suggestions on places to eat at out on Ratchada/Lad Phrao.

Edited April 29, 2009 by thecatman

[phetaroi]

I keep checking back on this thread, as the OP's original request was for places to dine out at on Ratchada/Lad Phrao. An area I'd also be interesting in learning more about and hearing other peoples views about.

But instead we get posting after posting about diets and stuff, which is totally irrelevent to the OP's main objective of this thread. The OP hasn't helped matters by 'taking the bait' and getting into a discussion on the irrelevent subject(s).

So the guy likes to try and eat well and enjoys good food, but also enjoys the occasional English breakfast, big deal...get over it. No need to turn the whole thread on him (typical Thai visa style). Can we please get back to the original point of this whole thread please and give the OP some suggestions on places to eat at out on Ratchada/Lad Phrao.

A fair criticism, but as with almost any non-business human discussion, it evolves over time.

[phetaroi]

Does anyone really believe that the quality

of food in the western world, or anywhere, is getting better?

In the last ten years I have felt it has gotten a lot worse.

It's all just marketing and processed crap now ...

I blame globalization in part.

I think it depends what you mean by "quality". My favorite veggie (if it is a veggie) is tomatoes. You rarely get good tomatoes as when I was young. But then again, when I was growing up in the 1950's you usually only got them in July, August, and September. Other times you ate canned tomatoes.

And while you will never solve all the problems, disease by food-borne illnesses are much less prevalent.