Thai millionaire reveals lawyer’s 71 million baht fraud, political links

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UN official rejects suggestion tsunami triggered by nuke test:

[World News]: United Nations, Jan 6

A top UN official has rejected the suggestion that the devastating tidal wave that lashed the Indian Ocean was triggered by a nuclear test, either by the US, India or Israel, and not by earthquake as is being made out.

"The seismic surveillance by people around the globe had shown exactly what was happening. There was a fault line where a big earthquake had occurred," UN Emergency Relief Coordinator Jan Egeland said dismissing such speculations in the Arab world.

He said he wants to put a stop to those contentions "now." He was awakened in the middle of the night and told there was a big earthquake, a big tsunami and "I thought. Okay, let's start the alarm bells." Egeland said he has appealed to several oil rich nations for help not only for tsunami victims but also for "forgotten and neglected" emergencies. PTI

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original article in Jerusalim Post:

Egyptian paper: Israel-India nuke test caused tsunami

By JOSEPH NASR

The earthquake that struck the Indian Ocean on December 26, triggering a series of huge waves called tsunami, "was possibly" caused by an Indian nuclear experiment in which "Israeli and American nuclear experts participated," an Egyptian weekly magazine reported Thursday.

According to Al-Osboa', India, in its heated nuclear race with Pakistan, has lately received sophisticated nuclear know-how from the United States and Israel, both of which "showed readiness to cooperate with India in experiments to exterminate humankind."

Since 1992, the magazine argued, leading geological centers in Britain, Turkey and other countries, warned of the need "not to hold nuclear experiments in the region of the Indian Ocean known as 'the Fire Belt,' in which the epicenter of the earthquake lies.

Geologists labeled that region 'The Fire Belt' for being "a dangerous terrain that can move at anytime, without human intervention," Al-Osboa' wrote.

Despite warnings not to carry out nuclear experiments in and around the 'Fire Belt', "Israel and India continue to conduct nuclear tests in the Indian Ocean, and the United States has recently decided to carry out similar tests in the Australian deserts, which is included in the 'Fire Belt', the Egyptian weekly magazine wrote.

"Last year only, Arab and Islamic states have asked the United States to stop its nuclear activities in that region, and to urge Israel and India to follow suite," Al-Osboa' reported.

Although Al-Osboa' does not rule out the possibility that the tsunami could have been caused by a natural earthquake it speculates however that, "while it has not been proved yet, there has been a joint Israeli-Indian secret nuclear experiment [conducted on December 26] that caused the earthquake."

The Egyptian weekly magazine concludes in its report that "the exchange of nuclear experts between Israel and India, and US pressure on Pakistan which is exerted by supplying India with state-of-the-art nuclear technology and preventing Islamabad from cooperating with Asian and Islamic states in the nuclear field, pose a big question mark on the causes behind the violent Asian earthquake."

Incitement against Israel and Jews in Egyptian media is usually limited to the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict yet exceptions are known to occur.

In August 2002, the Paris Supreme Court summoned Ibrahim Naafi', editor of the Egyptian daily Al-Ahram, for having authorized the publication of a controversial article entitled 'Jewish matza is made from Arab blood' in the October 28, 2000 edition of the paper.

Naafi' was charged with incitement to anti-Semitism and racist violence.

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[apetley]

No wonder there is so much conflict going on in this world when this amount of paranoia exists.

[Oleg_Rus]

hello,

another story of Jewish plotted disaster? how many more to come? Maybe sept 11 was also some kind of conspiracy?

Please, if you started it - prove at least!

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other versions/ rumors that rather Indian nuclear plant as well as some military installations were targeted, although India claims that no damage occured. toherwise Thamil Nadu could become worse than Soviet Chernobal in 80s...

Letter by Robin from Phuket

Dear [Russell],

I live in Phuket and witnessed the destruction of my village. We have been hearing about a nuclear power plant that was very close to the epicenter, and it was safetly shut down and as yet we have hear no more. People believe that it could have been connected, do you know anything about this power plant and what has happened to it?

Kind Regards

Phuket, Thailand.

14 Daily Times: Tidal waves hit India’s nuclear plant, airbase

Wednesday, December 29, 2004

By Iftikhar Gilani

NEW DELHI: Tidal waves that swept southern India on Sunday have

affected two important defence installations....

Though India on Tuesday dismissed reports of any threat of

radiation from the Kalpakam nuclear plant in the southern state

of Tamil Nadu, nearly 100 people have lost their lives there

including 16 employees of the nuclear plant. A Silvaraj, design

engineer of the plant has also been reported dead.

The joint services command at Andoman Nicobar overlooking seas of

Mayanmar, Bangladesh and an airbase have also been devastated.

The government has confirmed that 27 air force personnel had died

while some 80 were still missing....

Nuke plant deemed safe after tsunami

NEW DELHI — Although India maintains that its nuclear reactors in Tamil Nadu state withstood the recent tsunami, workers and residents around the Kalpakkam nuclear facility are worried.

The nuclear reactor plant temporarily was shut down after the coastal waves inundated the unit during the Dec. 26 tsunami....

New Delhi earlier had said that tsunami water had made its way into the nuclear facility.

"Information reaching us suggests that facilities at Kalpakkam nuclear station may have been affected by the tidal waves," said a spokesman for the prime minister's office.

Not many workers are willing to return to the nuclear reactor plant, fearing it may not be safe to work there...

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some more links :

Tsunami or a Ha'tak

http://forum.jowood.com/archive/index.php/t-32584.html

Mind I remind you..science people are closed minded or they have been paid to be...

some 2,500 years ago people thought it's the elephants moving under the earth pretty dumb huh ?

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another board on this subject:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread109465/pg1

....If i had to put Natures wrath aside, my Tsunami theory does not involve bombs or US agenda's.

The Tsunami was perhaps an accidental casuality of man's quest for oil/greed.

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http://www.nonagsplus.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=201&PN=1

Sometimes you just have to laugh at conspiracy theories:

Al-Jazeera's Tsunami Conspiracy Theories

Arab news service reports chatter about plots,

India-Israel nuke test implicated

.....

Some of the theories reported on seriously by Al-Jazeera include:

The U.S. government knew of the disaster ahead of time and failed to warn Asians in affected countries, as evidenced by the American Navy base situated on the Indian Ocean island of Diego Garcia that was alerted and escaped unscathed from the effects of the tsunamis;

Indian and U.S. military testing of weapons using electromagnetic waves triggered the earthquake;

Aliens caused the disaster as a way to correct the planet's "wobbly" rotation;

The Australian and Thai governments deliberately failed to respond to warning of the impending earthquake.

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Tsunamis and Nukes II: The ABCs of XYZs (Dec. 30th, 2004)

Tsunamis and nuclear aircraft carriers --request for calculation:

... could you estimate how far away a nuclear powered aircraft carrier would

come down if its dock and all the water round it blew a kilometer and a

half into the air?

on this discussion board there is a letter by Arthur Clarke (he lives in Sri Lanka for quite a while)

...Curiously enough, in my first book on Sri Lanka, I had written about another tidal wave reaching the Galle harbour (see Chapter 8 in The Reefs of Taprobane, 1957). That happened in August 1883, following the eruption of Krakatoa in roughly the same part of the Indian Ocean.

as well as comparative chart of Richter Scale equivalent magnitudes

...

8.5 5 billion tons Anchorage, AK Quake, 1964

9.0 32 billion tons Chilean Quake, 1960

10.0 1 trillion tons (San-Andreas type fault circling Earth)

12.0 160 trillion tons (Fault Earth in half through center,

OR Earth's daily receipt of solar energy)

these are called "True News" :

http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/index.html#top

but it seems like there was already some another thread refering to article from this web page: "COULD A TSUNAMI WIPE OUT AMERICAN EAST COAST? "

Indonesian Tsunami Probably Tripped by Exxon-Mobil

Indonesian Tsunami Probably Tripped by Exxon-Mobile Works

1-cubic-mile of natural gas extracted every four years at epicenter Aceh facility presents a smoking gun for man-made factor in 9.0 earthquake with accompanying tsunami that killed more than 225,000 people

Compiled by PESN from Paul Noel and JAH

ACEH -- Exxon-Mobile has a 60 bscf/day facility near Aceh. In the span of 4 years it extracts more than one cubic mile of natural gas from the formations directly at what ended up being the epicenter of the Aceh earthquake. The gas field there has been producing for much longer than four years, and is one of the largest such facilities in the world.

Scientists have known for some time that Earthquakes in the order 4.0 have been caused by oil drilling and other earth intrusive practices....

another board:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...php/t31178.html

with reference to some article from bolg "Free Press International"

Furore over `tidal bomb' claims!

FPI BREAKING NEWS

BRAVE NEW WORLD NEWS

Friday, January 07, 2005

1999: Furore over `tidal bomb' claims!

AFP , WELLINGTON

Sunday, Sep 26, 1999

Top secret wartime experiments were conducted off the New Zealand coast to perfect a tidal wave bomb believed to be potentially as effective as the atom bomb, a report said yesterday citing declassified files....

Papers stamped "top secret" show the US and British military were eager for Seal to be developed in the post-war years too. They even considered sending Leech to Bikini Atoll to view the US nuclear tests and see if they had any application to his work....

[Oleg_Rus]

and then ?

it's not a secret how to make huge tidal wave with nuke. But, from all your clips, where's the proof it was nuke ?

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especially I like this one:

Did New York Orchestrate The Asian Tsunami?

"Others are engaging even in an eco type of terrorism, whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes or volcanos remotely, through the use of electromagnetic waves."  American

Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, April 1997.  Big surprise! Presumably ...

The Indian Government knew full well that this was not a "normal" earthquake. On 27 December India refused to join George Bush's planned exclusive 'club of four', which would have effectively pulled this Asian nuclear power out of its new coalition  with Russia, China and Brazil. On 28 December the Indian Government politely warned the American military to stay clear of Indian sovereign territory, and on 29 December the India Daily Editorial publicly questioned the nature of the event: "Was this a showdown by a country to show the region what havoc can be created?" ...

... Australians were merely the advance party, soon to be joined by a curiously well prepared and equipped U.S. Military, though it is doubtful that any of the officers and men involved really comprehend what is going on. Only a handful thought to question why they had been spending a whole year training for a "Humanitarian Mission", when the whole point of the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps is normally to kill people in very large numbers. Just look at Fallujah, people, look at Fallujah....

As if by magic, the Pentagon managed to have two battle groups ready to sail at an instant's notice from Hong Kong and Guam during the normally chaotic Christmas to New Year period. Crikey! Military discipline has come a ###### of a long way since my day, when everyone including the ship's cat was sleeping it off at some highly questionably hostelry or another. Not these 10,000+ Americans though, who must have been standing rigidly to attention beside their hammocks day and night, tugging furiously at their forelocks whenever an officer of NCO came in sight.

The next bit was superbly orchestrated, because it took place at sea, far away from the prying eyes of dock spies or imaginary KGB agents.Out of Hong Kong rushed team one, comprised of the nuclear-powered USS Abraham Lincoln and her escort vessels, while the far more interesting team two rushed out of Guam, led by the USS Bonhomme Richard, a marine amphibious assault carrier crammed to the gunwales with gun-toting wooden tops.  And that is not all, believe me, because the Bonhomme Richard is in fact leading a veritable armada known as "Expeditionary Strike Group 5".

            Flagship USS Bonhomme Richard is accompanied by the U.S.S. Duluth, an amphibious transport dock vessel; the USS Rushmore, a landing ship dock; the guided missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill, guided missile destroyer USS Milius, and the guided missile frigate USS Thach. To take care of the underwater side of things they are joined by the nuclear hunter-killer submarine USS Pasadena, while the U.S. Coast Guard's high-endurance cutter Munro is also tagging along, presumably to deal with Asian Customs and Excise.

            Now then, though 'Strike Group 5' may be toting enough nuclear weapons to destroy half of the known world, and the title is perhaps lacking when viewed from a strictly humanitarian perspective, engineer chief Staff Sgt. Julio C. Dominguez says otherwise: "The Marine Service Support Group has been preparing for a humanitarian mission of this type for about 12 months now, and is more prepared for an actual mission". Well, OK chief, but didn't you ask why you were being trained for a mysterious humanitarian mission a year before it actually happened, especially when your day job is normally shooting Muslims full of holes? ....

Despite having a huge number of tsunami victims in its own State of  Tamil Nadu, India completely converted the survey ship INS Nirupak into a 50-bed floating hospital in less than 72 hours, then sent it unarmed to help the desperate people of Aceh in Indonesia. . By direct comparison, America sent combat ships and armed Marines. The US Navy has two 1,000 bed hospital ships, the 'Comfort' and the 'Mercy', but neither one was dispatched.  Though the USNS Comfort was deployed to New York when 3,000 Americans died in September 2001,  this current lack of action sends a strong signal that 150,000 (mostly Muslim) dead in South East Asia.....

It is the incompressibility of water in particular that matters deep down in the Sumatran Trench.  At the bottom you already have 10,000 pounds of pressure per square inch pressing down on your weapon of choice, and above that weapon there is a column of water 20,000 feet tall, which is what caused the pressure in the first place. Not only that. The trench narrows at the bottom, meaning that the weapon is 'hemmed-in', with a very real chance of moving a tectonic plate if sufficient tonnage is used. 

In this particular case there was no real need to shift a tectonic plate, and science suggests that if this blast had caused such an effect, several very powerful aftershocks would have occurred, as has happened with every other major earthquake in the past. But, as previously stated, and setting aside the seemingly deliberate provocative though false warnings from the American NOAA, there has not been a single aftershock which can be directly & scientifically linked to the 'event' in the Sumatran Trench at 0758 hours local on 26 December 2004. Later tremors might or might not be connected to the weapon....

There is nothing new about "Sea Bursts" as they are called, and more than 30 years ago plans existed in both America and Russia to wipe out each other's coastal cities using exactly this technique. The tidal wave from a deep sea burst is relatively clean, allowing the aggressor to take over both land and remaining buildings etc. with the minimum of delay.....   

Tsunami 'Just Missed' India's Top Fighter Jets & Nuclear Power Station

India's nuclear reactor at Chennai in Tamil Nadu State, flanked on either side by state-of-the-art hyper performance Sukhoi SU 30 jets, which should have been vulnerably situated in the Nicobar Islands front-line when the tsunami roared...

India has a major air force base on the Island of Car Nicobar, which guards the front line of Indian airspace in the Bay of Bengal. This base was being upgraded as 'home' to 25 of the IAF's Russian Sukhoi SU 30 jets, every one of which is capable of firing both the Sunburn and Onyx Mach 2.0+ sea skimming anti-ship missiles.

          The Sukhoi squadrons were due to arrive in Car Nicobar on 14 December, but had to be delayed because of construction work, which is extremely ironic. Despite the tidal wave roaring over the island and breaking up the runways, India still has its incredibly valuable SU 30 hyper performance planes, now situated on the mainland fully armed, and within striking range of both US Battle Fleets currently in the Indian Ocean...

Condoleeza Rice's Unbelievably Arrogant "Profitable" Tsunami

At a recent Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on her appointment by Bush to the post of Secretary of State, Condoleeza Rice declared that the tsunami constituted "a wonderful opportunity to show not just the US government, but the heart of the American people."  "And I think it has paid great dividends for us," she added.

            The French Government has shown an interest in this unbelievably arrogant gaffe, with a former director of the French Government "Centre National de la recherche Scientifique" putting to bed any notion that the tsunami was a 'natural event'. THe author, physicist Dr Jean Pierre Petit, provides some excellent photographs of American-occupied Diego Garcia, and predicts a very chilling future for America, if a similar 'natural event' should accidentally happen in the Canary Islands.

there is a reference to some article in French by physicist Dr Jean Pierre Petit

very interesting and iformative article - pitty it is in French !

[some quotes from french to engl. translation ]

Chart of the area. Epicentre in the western north of Sumatra, which created 100.000 died within a population cash

a maximum of Moslem integrist separatists. Note the arc in tiretée line showing the xtension of the epicentric line.

In the western south of Ceylon, the air base of Diego Garcia, English possession, atoll which is a key point of the American strategic system. ...

The atoll of the "Chagos Islands", comprising the base of Diego Garcia.

which is fantastic, per hour of the universalization of information and the Internet:

it is that nobody was warned, nowhere

This chart supplements the file installed on January 6, 2005. One sees there the "ïles Chagos", English possession, sheltering celebrates it base of Diego Garcia, hénergeant the American strategic bombers (of which in theory BE, which is supposed to have been supplied there at the time of the raid on Kabul, operated starting from the base of Witheman, Missouri, according to the proper testimony of the Americans. These islands are on the passage of the tsunami, and if you observed well the second animation you will have seen how the tidal wave "was delayed there", interacted with this point found on its road. Quid of the damage which could occassionner this passage of the tidal wave in this base, lodging in theory units whose prices attent two billion dollars. These planes were on Tarmac this day, or in their frèles shelters of nylon, primarily intended to protect them from the bite of the sun and the bad weather, whose Americans claim that they deteriorate the anti-radar coating of these stealth (?...). Or were in flight, for a few hours, or on mission. Let us guarantee that it will be quite difficult to find information on this part of the history.

[RDN]

Unbelievable. I am just waiting to see who posts that they actually believe this rubbish.

[chuchok]

Yes it was India,I'm 100% sure. (Never trusted them after what they did to Custer!)

They actually planted the nuclear devise under the ocean using deep sea divers.Apparantly it was ment to blow an hour earlier, but one of the divers forgot his water proof matches on the initial dive.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

Unbelievable. I am just waiting to see who  posts that they actually believe this rubbish.

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have courage RDN ... have courage. Close the bloody thing. Pure drivel

[devildog683]

wow

some people believe anything

[dr_Pat_Pong]

wow

some people believe anything

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[NarrLing]

In the Middle East, there were 2 conspiracy theories being spread from the mosques soon after the tsunami. Both of them involved nukes.

The first was an American nuke submarine had run aground and a nuke exploded. The second was the Israelis set off an underwater nuke. The Israeli one is still doing the rounds with many Arabs insisting it is true.

NL

[IMA_FARANG]

No wonder there is so much conflict going on in this world when this amount of paranoia exists.

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Paranoia yes, but it would be easy to prove/disprove.

The reason is that a nuclear explosion makes a different signature on a siesmic recording than an earthquake.

During the cold war years the U.S. maintained a network of monitoring stations around the world to detect underground nuclear tests. The same stations made many recordings of earthquakes.

I don't know the exact details of the difference in siesmic recordings between the two, but there is a different pattern of waves between an earthquake and a nuclear explosion, even one underground.

So the siesmogram would tell.

Edited February 25, 2005 by IMA_FARANG

[Darknight]

Unbelievable. I am just waiting to see who  posts that they actually believe this rubbish.

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have courage RDN ... have courage. Close the bloody thing. Pure drivel

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Well i'll stand up

/ off topic , not thailand related, no politics on this board , thank you for the drivel..

/closed

/have a nice day