Thai Anti-Riot Squad Cut Up By Soldiers In Black

[Thai at Heart]

I'm sorry "Thai at heart" your last sentence lost any support you may have had, it's people (generally) who put their heads in the sand who encourage these cowardly thugs to get away with their crimes, have you no shame? You're closer to the Thai psyche than you realise?

I fear you are extremely naive about the situation. Are you SURE these people are the same person? Do you have proof? Even if they are you HAVE TO PROVE that they are, or you have defamed someone. This is Thailand under SOE not London or New York.

I asked if the picture was in the mainstream media and if not I would think long and hard about publishing it. Playing amateur sleuths at a time of SOE is a very dangerous game and can lead to some very unintended consequences. I would leave that to the mainstream media as best as possible. Throwing pictures around in blogs is not a smart thing to do. We are talking about the ARMY and possible splinter groups of, whom are patently trying to hide their identity, not the bloody boy scouts on march.

If you want to insinuate that you know who the man in the picture is, please feel free to do so. If you want to get slapped with at minimum a defamation law suit please feel free. I am sure the Nation has deeper enough pockets to protect itself, do you? Believe me, if his lawyer came knocking on the door of Thaivisa for a defamation lawsuit, they are not about to hide your identity for one second.

You are so naive to believe that if this guy is definitely not the person in the mask that he hasn't already landed 50 defamation lawsuits on the doorsteps of all of the websites in question. If he is the same person he will do the same and more worryingly the websites will probably have to give up your identity.

If you want him to come and knock on your door when his side wins please feel free to publish away.

[anotherpeter]

What a joke

Someone using some dubious photos to scam the Red shirts ???

We can see for the first man in the black carry a M16 or Carbine with a Silencer Attached ! That means he's firing Blanks !

If you want to scam someone pls do your homework first

Me thinks you've got no idea what you are talking about.

1) What silencer?

2) How does a silencer "mean he's firing Blanks"?

Look at the tip for the barrel, that's the silencer ! It's got no holes , so how's the bullet going to shot out ?

High chances it's a fake photo to push the blame to the man in blck or the Red Shirts.

Do a bit of research on high powered rifles and silencers, then come back and retract your statements.

[Fore Man]

Concur; the poster who thinks this is an M16 equipped with a silencer hasn't a clue. The photo depicts a standard M-16 with no silencer attached; the weapon is not even a sniper version either. The regular M16 is very lethal and accurate out to 400 meters. The shooter could fire from a hidden position--perhaps perched in a building window overlooking the area--and easily strike targets within range. My personal sensing is that there is no 'third' party involved; the shooters are part of the warring factions and working to create havoc and blame towards their opponents. I will let you decide which warring faction did the shooting, but the deduction shouldn't be too difficult.

[toybits]

You can't beat The Nation for coming up with such inflamatory headings...

[animatic]

About the comments of being shot from long range, the facts would appear to be different. Yesterday on the Nations Tweet , there was a statement that the Police Hospital Autopsy report states that most of the victims were shot from behind, one at very close range as there was gunpowder on the body.

Which could mean one guy walked in front of his neighbor just as he fired his pistol.

And the others were taken out from above and well behind by snipers on THEIR side.

Sacrificial lambs to help give the impression of army gone mad,

and stoke up their friends into a frenzy on the ground.

War is not fought with fair rules by all players.

[multistar28]

Thanks for helping to explaining. I'm not a red shirt supporter btw and also not Thai.

What a joke the person who posted this photo

Look at the tip for the barrel, that's the silencer ! It's got no holes , so how's the bullet going to shot out ?

The bullet comes out the tip. And even if shooting blanks the gasses need to be expelled from the end of the barrel, if the barrel was plugged you'd likely damage the gun, perhaps explosively when fired (even with blanks).

I think you're thinking of a flash suppressor, not a silencer:

It has slits/holes cut in the side to help dissipate the flaming gases that come out of the end of the barrel.

[rabo]

What a joke

Someone using some dubious photos to scam the Red shirts ???

We can see for the first man in the black carry a M16 or Carbine with a Silencer Attached ! That means he's firing Blanks !

If you want to scam someone pls do your homework first

So you have done your homework well, you know the M16 comes in two forms a rifle and a carbine, thus *for sure* you already know there is no silencer on the gun.

To late for damage control. You guys are up khee creek.

[OzMick]

What a joke

Someone using some dubious photos to scam the Red shirts ???

We can see for the first man in the black carry a M16 or Carbine with a Silencer Attached ! That means he's firing Blanks !

If you want to scam someone pls do your homework first

Please note: what you see is a flash suppressor, not a silencer (which does not work with the rounds fired from this type of weapon) nor a blank firing attachment BFA, to which you appear to be referring. They are all quite different, and a BFA is bloody obvious and usually painted yellow to make it more so, because the rifle will still fire a live round but it will explode in your face.

[grandpops]

About the comments of being shot from long range, the facts would appear to be different. Yesterday on the Nations Tweet , there was a statement that the Police Hospital Autopsy report states that most of the victims were shot from behind, one at very close range as there was gunpowder on the body.

How would you plan to get out of the crowd if you were one of the planted assassins? Wouldn't it be completely insane to commit this type of crime surrounded by bystanders and cameras?

That was just routes of transit from high ground or cover points to shoot from.

I would expect there was only ONE group of snipers...

This side is the only one that can truly gain by creating a conflagration.

Army not a bit, even the hawks.

Once Abhisit said move the hawks got hat the thought the wanted.

Moderate army didn't need blood at all.

Redshirts, were more rabble and riot than organized blood bath.

They were the playing card placed in the middle and cannon fodder.

And a few sacrificial lambs to the worlds perceptions too.

Who benefits with army/government disgraced for killing many?

Who benefits from putting army/government at each others throats?

Who needs martyrs and many dead to change the game and sway public opinion?

Who already has blood on their hands from the past, and so lowered thresholds of compunction to kill?

Who has no respect for, and is on the outs with the mainstream red leaders?

Who is directly connected with the amoral master funder in Dubai?

Who has access and the talent to use these weapons and motivation to change the game?

Who so far HAS benefited from this series of deaths?

A few good questions needing answers. Draw your conclusions as you will.

Who put salt in the sugar bowl? Who put fireworks in the coal?

Who put a real live toad-in-the-'ole? Khun Thaksin!

Who put jam in mother's shoe? Who made real caterpillar stew?

Who locked Grandad in the loo?... Khun Thaksin!

Khun Thaksin said it wasn't he, who put shampoo in Grandma's tea

Khun Thaksin said that it was me – my brother's rotten.

Whose pet mouse made Auntie shriek? Who ate glue and couldn't speak?

What clever dick was sick for a week? Khun Thaksin!

Terry Scott?

Appologies to Mitch Murray

[animatic]

We can see for the first man in the black carry a M16 or Carbine with a Silencer Attached ! That means he's firing Blanks ![/b]

What about it having a silencer leads you to believe he's firing blanks? They aren't mutually exclusive. Also I don't see a silencer.

That's a flash suppressor muzzle, so it's harder to pinpoint where the shooter is.

And correct, has nothing to do with the type of bullet loaded into it.

[shawndoc]

Interesting link with screen caps from an Al Jazeera showing a person dressed in black with a M16 or similar :

http://thailand.media140.org/bangkok/

I don't see it on the list of sites that are banned to point to. There's also a Youtube video that is making the rounds that has video of two men in black walking along the edge of the street and firing M16 or similar looking rifles. I didn't save the link.

[grandpops]

About the comments of being shot from long range, the facts would appear to be different. Yesterday on the Nations Tweet , there was a statement that the Police Hospital Autopsy report states that most of the victims were shot from behind, one at very close range as there was gunpowder on the body.

Which could mean one guy walked in front of his neighbor just as he fired his pistol.

And the others were taken out from above and well behind by snipers on THEIR side.

Sacrificial lambs to help give the impression of army gone mad,

and stoke up their friends into a frenzy on the ground.

War is not fought with fair rules by all players.

In the clip shot by the deceased camera man, you can clearly see Red Shirts with their hands in the air, backs to the troops, calling for calm.

Is it also not possible that at some stages, some of the reds turned and ran.?

It was also obviouse that in the side streets, there was overlapping of both sides. Therefore anybody turing 90 degrees would also have had his back to soldiers.

The footage on CNN and BBC on Sunday morning also showed soldiers on overpasses firing downwards.

Edited April 13, 2010 by Sheryl

[OccamsRazor]

We can see for the first man in the black carry a M16 or Carbine with a Silencer Attached ! That means he's firing Blanks !

If you want to scam someone pls do your homework first

Perhaps you might do the same. The M16A1 in the photo is standard, no muzzle attachment. First picture below is standard M16, the 2nd one with silencer.

[animatic]

I have a suggestion. Revoke all bail on those previously charged. Give them, and the other leaders of the insurrection 3 days to present themselves. Then charge them with treason. I include Thaksin as a leader.

If they don't show up within 3 days, do one of 2 things.

1/ Issue orders for them to be shot on sight, and declare anybody in the vicinity and/or assisting them will be considered aiding and abetting and equally guilty.

OR

2/ issue bounty warrants of B1,000,000 per leader and B10,000,000 for Thaksin. make it clear that no questions will be asked if they are worse for wear, up to and including dead.

For anybody who has ever doubted the motivation of Red Shirts, gf's family firmly believe a payment of B100,000 will be received by every family that contributed to Thaksins re-instatement. If the motivation is money, use it against them.

Joke surely! 1m &10m any assain wouldn't get out of bed for that, never mind hit or capture a World known target, been watching to much butch cassidy and still in the same time zone, loose change to everyone involved, get real

You MUST be joking... In Thailand?

People have been shot over lovers quarrels by disinterested third parties for 5,000baht.

and not just one or two....

1 million is enough to sway many here. That is a house and a farm for the family.

10 mil makes you and instant puyai.

[animatic]

About the comments of being shot from long range, the facts would appear to be different. Yesterday on the Nations Tweet , there was a statement that the Police Hospital Autopsy report states that most of the victims were shot from behind, one at very close range as there was gunpowder on the body.

How would you plan to get out of the crowd if you were one of the planted assassins? Wouldn't it be completely insane to commit this type of crime surrounded by bystanders and cameras?

That was just routes of transit from high ground or cover points to shoot from.

I would expect there was only ONE group of snipers...

This side is the only one that can truly gain by creating a conflagration.

Army not a bit, even the hawks.

Once Abhisit said move the hawks got hat the thought the wanted.

Moderate army didn't need blood at all.

Redshirts, were more rabble and riot than organized blood bath.

They were the playing card placed in the middle and cannon fodder.

And a few sacrificial lambs to the worlds perceptions too.

Who benefits with army/government disgraced for killing many?

Who benefits from putting army/government at each others throats?

Who needs martyrs and many dead to change the game and sway public opinion?

Who already has blood on their hands from the past, and so lowered thresholds of compunction to kill?

Who has no respect for, and is on the outs with the mainstream red leaders?

Who is directly connected with the amoral master funder in Dubai?

Who has access and the talent to use these weapons and motivation to change the game?

Who so far HAS benefited from this series of deaths?

A few good questions needing answers. Draw your conclusions as you will.

Who put salt in the sugar bowl? Who put fireworks in the coal?

Who put a real live toad-in-the-'ole? Khun Thaksin!

Who put jam in mother's shoe? Who made real caterpillar stew?

Who locked Grandad in the loo?... Khun Thaksin!

Khun Thaksin said it wasn't he, who put shampoo in Grandma's tea

Khun Thaksin said that it was me – my brother's rotten.

Whose pet mouse made Auntie shriek? Who ate glue and couldn't speak?

What clever dick was sick for a week? Khun Thaksin!

Terry Scott?

Appologies to Mitch Murray

Nice try, but you've nothing accomplished.

Edited April 13, 2010 by animatic

[ovaltina]

its interesting reading over on the other paper we cannot quote on here

headed ''Slain camerman may have caught 'third hand' killers''

google it

,

the intimation seems to be that the cameraman may have been shot by the men in black

It would certainly explain the flurry of misinformative red propaganda agents on this and other sites, who a mere few hours after the tragedy were posting about 'evil murderer soldiers killing innocent cameraman'.

It surprised me at the time, how they really went straight for that angle rather than just numb shock and terrible loss for all those concerned, the deaths of young Thai people in their beautiful capital city. In retrospect, if indeed the unfortunate cameraman had been targetted for was filming these international mercenaries hired by the reds, the thaksinite media-handlers & paymasters had told the web-bots to post outrage about soldiers slaying cameraman early on.

If anything this public revelation that Thaksin is fighting even dirtier than expected, hiring caucasian most likely former-Soviet bloc ( didn't Mr.Thaksin pay a unexplained holiday visit to Russia a few weeks ago where mercenaries who are veteran of urban warfare & fight for low wages, & indeed black-market 'dirty-bombs' have been available for decades) mercenaries who have no interest in Thai politics whatsoever, to kill for money on the streets of the capital, then now is the time for the Govt. to take off the cotton wool gloves and actually close these red camps with force. It was never about them making social demands beyond what was already known,all that is happening is that it is becoming bees-to-honeypot for mercenaries. The option of peaceful solution is passed and to be honest the longer this situation continues, the more of these hired-guns will converge here with pockets stuffed full of Thaksins (stolen) money.

Edited April 13, 2010 by ovaltina

[Eclipse]

Interesting link with screen caps from an Al Jazeera showing a person dressed in black with a M16 or similar :

http://thailand.media140.org/bangkok/

[blackman]

'Ronin warriors' fire M79 grenades at troops: Khattiya

Maj-Gen Khattiya Sawasdipol said that the so-called 'Ronin' warriors or underground warriors helped red-shirt protesters battle troops on Saturday.

He admitted that the "unknown force" or "Ronin warriors" fired M79 grenades at troops and one M79 grenade landed at the tent of the commander of the operation, causing the troops to have no commander.

"This caused the troops to have no commander and caused them to lose the battle," Khattiya said.

"The Army commander thought the red shirts were easy to be crushed but there are not," Khattiya said.

The Nation

i told you before that Thais cannot keep a secret, he has as good as admitted to the murder of Col. Romklao

Seh Daeng already has an arrest warrant issued for him

Maj-Gen Khattiya Sawasdipol, known as Seh Daeng, an army specialist who has been suspended from duty, is one of the 17 people wanted under arrest warrants approved by the Criminal Court, police said.

maybe they should add to this a reward of 10 million - dead or alive

[RandyWhite]

About the comments of being shot from long range, the facts would appear to be different. Yesterday on the Nations Tweet , there was a statement that the Police Hospital Autopsy report states that most of the victims were shot from behind, one at very close range as there was gunpowder on the body.

How would you plan to get out of the crowd if you were one of the planted assassins? Wouldn't it be completely insane to commit this type of crime surrounded by bystanders and cameras?

That was just routes of transit from high ground or cover points to shoot from.

I would expect there was only ONE group of snipers...

This side is the only one that can truly gain by creating a conflagration.

Army not a bit, even the hawks.

Once Abhisit said move the hawks got hat the thought the wanted.

Moderate army didn't need blood at all.

Redshirts, were more rabble and riot than organized blood bath.

They were the playing card placed in the middle and cannon fodder.

And a few sacrificial lambs to the worlds perceptions too.

Who benefits with army/government disgraced for killing many?

Who benefits from putting army/government at each others throats?

Who needs martyrs and many dead to change the game and sway public opinion?

Who already has blood on their hands from the past, and so lowered thresholds of compunction to kill?

Who has no respect for, and is on the outs with the mainstream red leaders?

Who is directly connected with the amoral master funder in Dubai?

Who has access and the talent to use these weapons and motivation to change the game?

Who so far HAS benefited from this series of deaths?

A few good questions needing answers. Draw your conclusions as you will.

Good post - thanks.

Who benefits? Mr. Conflict of Interest, of course: As usual, the money trail leads back to Dubai via Chieng Mai.

The RED struggle doesn't have to be overtly about Thaksin for Thaksin to receive huge direct payoffs - both political and financial - in a favorable settlement. Of course, some REDS say they are using Thaksin for their own ends...but as no REd has publicly repudiated support for Thaksin, that hardly seems credible.

Rather, it seems that, in desperation, Thaksin and/or one of his "proxy" agents like Big Jiew seem to have gone for a 'game changer' i.e.

A Game Changer - That Buffaloes Can Believe In

After all, most only listen to RED propaganda and have been indoctrinated to respond automatically by regurgitating RED PROPAGANDA - or with highly emotional responses (e.g. anger and/or tears) in place of 'reason' when that doesn't work, so without a 'smoking gun' Thaksin will probably get away with murder - again.

I wonder if I will get the usual RED BS denial and distortion responses here on Thaivisa.

[oceano]

Thaksin and his leaders are just terrorists they should be reigned in over this with international help if necessary , the red shirts who were used as props should go home but they wont.

The Reds wanted a bloodbath and they got it .

There could have been a lot more deaths lets hope there is no more bloodshed but i doubt it.

As we read today......is not like that, some red leader show that they want nobody in trouble and stop the people to push, sometimes, soldiers....not all is white or black...some are bad person some are good person dont put all in the same basket.

You never see in real one terrorist dont you? the day you see one in face in real you understand the differnce.

The Thai goverment should now freeze every asset they can of Thaksins and demand countries harboring him do the same.

You forget that also Thailand dont care the request from other country for arrest or freeze asset of international criminal...why they must do whit Thailand?

I forget, do you know the real law about ban or not person from one country and which are the criminal offence for ban someone?

I understand you point and in part i agree...but we follow the law all the time or sometimes for someone we change the law ?

Edited April 13, 2010 by oceano

[kangaloowest]

Yes, that face holding the heavy weapon won't be too difficult to identify.

Nor will his mate behind him !!!

[old wanderer]

I moved the picture to Photoshop and blew it up to study..

1st person with the black balaclava:

1. The gun in hand is a M16 but does not have an ammo clip inserted at this time.

2. Another automatic short barreled gun is hanging on his left side.

3. Over the left arm is a shooting bag with multiple 30 round magazines

4. The features do not appear to be Thai of the 1st person.

5. He is wearing rubber surgical gloves so as to not leave finger prints on magazines he has handled..

6. Possible radio in the upper right pocket

7. A hand gun is also holstered.

8. Camo T-shirt under tactical black jacket.

9. Black mike cord leading under the head covering.

Could be a professional or a mercenary?

Age maybe late 30's or 40's??

2nd person that nobody has noticed or at least mentioned:

1. Looks Thai

2. No gloves

3. Rifle similar to a bullpup (compact auto or semi auto)

4. Pistol tucked in waist band

5. Shooting bag with ammo. Maybe grenades?

6. 2nd rifle slung over right shoulder.

7. White T-shirt under Tactical jacket...

Not nearly as professional as the 1st guy. Something is clipped onto his white T-shirt...maybe a mike?

Bottom line, both heavily armed with 2 rifles. None that I can see are capable of firing a M79 grenade however, but maybe the one in back of shooter 2.

These are not protesters, they are men on a mission....as far as the guess that the camera man was shot for shooting this picture. Of the 3 rifles that are in sight, none are ready to shoot. So I think not.

They appear to be crossing a bridge.

Best guess from studying the pictures...they are on a job assignment, and are in contact with who ever is paying them and giving the orders. They are prepared to shoot their way out of trouble should they be surrounded after the assignment is finished. Too much ammo and too many guns for just a simple go shoot a couple of targets. Shooting their way back through the red shirts could be blamed on the targets and the people around them. If I were the military, I would find these 2 and wire them up to find out who was paying their salary.

The 1st shooters rifle is set-up for long range shooting...That is no silencer, just a simple flash suppressor common on almost all M16's

[humfurry]

'Ronin warriors' fire M79 grenades at troops: Khattiya

Maj-Gen Khattiya Sawasdipol said that the so-called 'Ronin' warriors or underground warriors helped red-shirt protesters battle troops on Saturday.

He admitted that the "unknown force" or "Ronin warriors" fired M79 grenades at troops and one M79 grenade landed at the tent of the commander of the operation, causing the troops to have no commander.

"This caused the troops to have no commander and caused them to lose the battle," Khattiya said.

"The Army commander thought the red shirts were easy to be crushed but there are not," Khattiya said.

The Nation

i told you before that Thais cannot keep a secret, he has as good as admitted to the murder of Col. Romklao

Seh Daeng already has an arrest warrant issued for him

Maj-Gen Khattiya Sawasdipol, known as Seh Daeng, an army specialist who has been suspended from duty, is one of the 17 people wanted under arrest warrants approved by the Criminal Court, police said.

maybe they should add to this a reward of 10 million - dead or alive

And then there is this from The Nation: "The spokesman of the Internal Security Operations Commanded said Monday that either an active or a retired military officer identified Col Romklao Thuwatham for a gunman to take him out with M79 grenade.

Pol Maj Gen Disthaporn Sasamit said a laser beam was pointed to the group of commanders before an MP79 was fire at them, killing Romklao and injuring other senior officers.

Disthaporn said it was not a coincidence but everything was planned by the other side.

The spokesman said the other side was angry that Romklao led troops to restore order during riots last year so the other side was angry and would like to take a revenge.

Disthaporn said gunmen also fired at military officers from buildings so everything was planned by the other side.

The Nation"

Interesting.

[noel2499rk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7oKenp6ZLw

This video shows black clad gunmen firing at army lines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY7OafG9Src

This shows someone among the reds firing at a third floor window, why would he be doing that, I suspect he was returning fire.

Which leads me to believe that the army had snipers positioned in buildings around the area, something which I think this video supports.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcwxd7_redbkk_news

Maybe Satuday was the first skirmish in a civil war

[rabo]

its interesting reading over on the other paper we cannot quote on here

headed ''Slain camerman may have caught 'third hand' killers''

google it

the intimation seems to be that the cameraman may have been shot by the men in black

Though it's *all* speculation, I assumed the Japanese cameraman must have been targeted.

More speculation (admittedly far out). I have been wondering who would have taken the picture published at the top of the page? If you look at the shadow of the gun barrel on the other guy's red shirt, it is well below the gun barrel, meaning the picture was taken at very close range, probably by an expensive camera with a separate flash attachment.

How is the guy who took the picture still alive, if the picture is what it is insinuated to be?

Where is the Japanese cameraman's camera?

Questions or trying to connect the dots, nothing more.

The first dot you can connect is that there is no shadow at all on the red shirt.It is a vow of the shirt or maybe something hidden under the shirt.

Have a closer look.

[Sheryl]

Keep it civil, folks or you will find yourself unable to post.

Presumably those who engage in political debate do so in hopes of influencing the views of others. Personalized insults are not going to achieve that, to say the least.

[LevelHead]

From an International news reporting agency a direct quote that their correspondents saw "army soldiers carrying and shooting high velocity rifles".

Looks like the propaganda war is being lost big time.

I am sorry, but the rules of TVF do not allow me to name it, or post the link.

[noel2499rk]

I moved the picture to Photoshop and blew it up to study..

1st person with the black balaclava:

1. The gun in hand is a M16 but does not have an ammo clip inserted at this time.

2. Another automatic short barreled gun is hanging on his left side.

3. Over the left arm is a shooting bag with multiple 30 round magazines

4. The features do not appear to be Thai of the 1st person.

5. He is wearing rubber surgical gloves so as to not leave finger prints on magazines he has handled..

6. Possible radio in the upper right pocket

7. A hand gun is also holstered.

8. Camo T-shirt under tactical black jacket.

9. Black mike cord leading under the head covering.

Could be a professional or a mercenary?

Age maybe late 30's or 40's??

2nd person that nobody has noticed or at least mentioned:

1. Looks Thai

2. No gloves

3. Rifle similar to a bullpup (compact auto or semi auto)

4. Pistol tucked in waist band

5. Shooting bag with ammo. Maybe grenades?

6. 2nd rifle slung over right shoulder.

7. White T-shirt under Tactical jacket...

Not nearly as professional as the 1st guy. Something is clipped onto his white T-shirt...maybe a mike?

Bottom line, both heavily armed with 2 rifles. None that I can see are capable of firing a M79 grenade however, but maybe the one in back of shooter 2.

These are not protesters, they are men on a mission....as far as the guess that the camera man was shot for shooting this picture. Of the 3 rifles that are in sight, none are ready to shoot. So I think not.

They appear to be crossing a bridge.

Best guess from studying the pictures...they are on a job assignment, and are in contact with who ever is paying them and giving the orders. They are prepared to shoot their way out of trouble should they be surrounded after the assignment is finished. Too much ammo and too many guns for just a simple go shoot a couple of targets. Shooting their way back through the red shirts could be blamed on the targets and the people around them. If I were the military, I would find these 2 and wire them up to find out who was paying their salary.

The 1st shooters rifle is set-up for long range shooting...That is no silencer, just a simple flash suppressor common on almost all M16's

I would say he's more likely in his fourties, what chance that he is an old CPT/PLAT fighter looking to settle some scores from the 80's

[way2muchcoffee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7oKenp6ZLw

This video shows black clad gunmen firing at army lines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY7OafG9Src

This shows someone among the reds firing at a third floor window, why would he be doing that, I suspect he was returning fire.

Which leads me to believe that the army had snipers positioned in buildings around the area, something which I think this video supports.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcwxd7_redbkk_news

Maybe Satuday was the first skirmish in a civil war

Yes. I noticed that. An alternate interpretation is that they sniper in the building were the Ronin completing their necessary job of creating martyrs on the redshirt side and taking out military personnel.

Of course your guess is also possible.

However, I can see no benefit to either the government or military in taking out redshirts and other civilians. Whereas there are huge benefits to the redshirts, which we are now witnessing.

Edited April 13, 2010 by way2muchcoffee

[TAWP]

Look at the tip for the barrel, that's the silencer ! It's got no holes , so how's the bullet going to shot out ?

High chances it's a fake photo to push the blame to the man in blck or the Red Shirts.

What a joke

Someone using some dubious photos to scam the Red shirts ???

We can see for the first man in the black carry a M16 or Carbine with a Silencer Attached ! That means he's firing Blanks !

If you want to scam someone pls do your homework first

Me thinks you've got no idea what you are talking about.

1) What silencer?

2) How does a silencer "mean he's firing Blanks"?

You have no idea what you are talking about. Please refrain from talking about guns if your knowledge is only extended to action movies or Thai tv soaps.