My friend (a girl) grew up and has been raised in Germany but she declined her German passport 4 years ago because she thought she will be going to leave in Thailand where her family leaves. Now she has a Thai passport and she leaves in Germany, she also has a schengen unlimited visa.

For the last 7 months, she needed some time to reoganise her life therefore she sent her 2 kids to Thailand to their Grand-Parents, not to far from Bangkok. Her Son is 4 and her Daughter is 5 years old, they have a German Passport.

Her daughter is very sick (mucoviscidose - cystic fibrosis) and she needs medical support whish could only be provided in Germany, not in Thailand. And the problem is the 2 kids are running out of visa. They overstayed in Thailand by over 6 months whish will be about 4.000 euros to pay to the immigration (2.000 per kid according to my calculations).

My friend doesn't have so much money to pay to the Thai immigration and she only realises the problem now when she needs to get the kids back to Germany.

She thinks she might have a chance to apply for a Thai Passport for the kids but it's only a slight chance to get it done on time. She is desperate to find a solution it makes her infinitely sad.

Would you please have any suggestion/idea/solution to bring on board? she really doesn't know how to face the problem

Many thanks in advance for your help,

J.

Edited April 28, 201016 yr by Juliani

Children under 14 (I think someone will correct me) are not charged for overstay.

With ages 4 and 5 there is definitely no issue and no charge

No overstay is charged for children under the age of 15, so the Op would have no problem. The children will get a stamp in their passport that they were on overstay, but that is it. They will not be fined and can get a new visa without any problem.

If the mother is a Thai national, so will be the children. They can apply for a Thai passport. I believe that German law also allows it in case of a person having dual nationality by way of law. If the children were born in Germany the Thai passport should be applied for at the Thai embassy, when you apply for a Thai beirth certificate for the children.

Since they entered on a german passport they would have to leave on a german passport and still be on overstay, even when they get a Thai passport.

As said there is no overstay charge for children.

I just called the Thai embassy to check and there is a charge to pay for overstaying, even for kids. This charge applies to everybody.

I just called the Thai embassy to check and there is a charge to pay for overstaying, even for kids. This charge applies to everybody.

Embassies have nothing to do with overstay, and fall under a different ministry. It wouldn't be the first case in which they give incorrect information.

Immigration deals with overstay and they don't fine children. They will be fine, trust me. Immigration sometimes even advices to let children be on overstay as there is no fine for them.

Yep. No overstay charge for under 14.

Thank you for your answers. Please Who should I call to get the answer from thai autority?

I tried to call the Embassy in Switzerland and in France and they both told me children will get charged for overstaying.

Before I will give the answer to my friend, i definitely need to be 100% sure of information acuity.

Thank you.

Best is to call immigration, you can contact them through the government info line: 1111 or immigration directly 1178.

Even if they do have to pay and the general consensus is that they do not , the maximum fine will be 20,000 baht per child.

Thank you to both of you. a friend will call immigration tomorrow at 1178 and check. it's good to find information support here! tkx again.

As mentionned on page http://www.thaivisa.com/303.0.html, the Information is a bit old, from Thursday, 14 December 2006. hope it's still accurate...

Even if there were an overstay fee it would not be 2000 euros isnt the maximum 20,000 bhat?

Yes that is the max fine per person - but there is no overstay fine payment required for children.