Maybe Neurology? Cm Ram

[rrose070]

Hi again, all,

So, here's what I've got: short-term memory loss, a very itchy rash all over that sometimes becomes small blisters, and (newly, this morning) an incredibly red left eye - it doesn't itch or hurt, but my husband was horrified. I did some WebMD'ing and thought maybe my problem is mold-related, but then I read a huge study on Aspartame (Diet Coke, I drink about 5 a day when I'm trying to be moderate) Does anyone have any advice? I don't really know where to start...And CM Ram is a pricey place to start looking...

[orang37]

Sawasdee Khrup, Khun RRoseR70,

Perhaps you might start with a simple visit to a dermatologist about the rash, an opthalmologist about the eye ? And, ask each doctor if they think these symptoms are related ?

Second, if you do want to pursue the "neurological" issue, suggest you do a search on this forum on "Sriphat" and "Sripat" : there's been extensive reporting, and discussion, of the Sriphat Medical Center within the Maharaj Hospital Complex on Thanon Suthep as an alternative to Chiang Mai Ram, and as the place where you can get access to the very highly qualified doctor/professors (many trained and certified outside Thailand) who teach at the medical school associated with Chiang Mai University and that Hospital.

Good luck,

~o:37;

[SwaziBird]

rrose070'

Hope you are feeling better soon.

Now, with what you describe, you are absolutely in need of a visit to a dermatologist - very soon.

Their expertise includes an assessment of what it is that's likely to be causing your problems. Where you go after that will be where he or she will suggest.

The lady doctor at Ram Hospital is very good. So is her male colleague.

Come on Rose ! How much more expensive can the Ram hospital specialist charge be over any other service provider ?

Maybe the cost of a modest dinner out( for one ) - if that!

Good luck.

Cheers

[caf]

rrose070'

Hope you are feeling better soon.

Now, with what you describe, you are absolutely in need of a visit to a dermatologist - very soon.

Their expertise includes an assessment of what it is that's likely to be causing your problems. Where you go after that will be where he or she will suggest.

The lady doctor at Ram Hospital is very good. So is her male colleague.

Come on Rose ! How much more expensive can the Ram hospital specialist charge be over any other service provider ?

Maybe the cost of a modest dinner out( for one ) - if that!

Good luck.

Cheers

I'd certinly seek medical advice.

But ram can be twice the price of other hospitals for the same procedure carried out by the same doctor. Just my experience from a recent visit to Mccormick.

Check your prices is a good rule in Thailand. And Ram is notoriously tourist and expat oriented - price wise

[SwaziBird]

rrose070'

Hope you are feeling better soon.

Now, with what you describe, you are absolutely in need of a visit to a dermatologist - very soon.

Their expertise includes an assessment of what it is that's likely to be causing your problems. Where you go after that will be where he or she will suggest.

The lady doctor at Ram Hospital is very good. So is her male colleague.

Come on Rose ! How much more expensive can the Ram hospital specialist charge be over any other service provider ?

Maybe the cost of a modest dinner out( for one ) - if that!

Good luck.

Cheers

I'd certinly seek medical advice.

But ram can be twice the price of other hospitals for the same procedure carried out by the same doctor. Just my experience from a recent visit to Mccormick.

Check your prices is a good rule in Thailand. And Ram is notoriously tourist and expat oriented - price wise

My consultations with all specialists at Ram hospital usually cost me 300 baht plus the 50 baht "nursing "etc charge ( which charge appears to be charged by other hospitals ).

Can't see that's twice the price of other hospitals but then, I've never seen a Specialist at McCormick - so I may be wrong.

[uptheos]

Hi again, all,

So, here's what I've got: short-term memory loss, a very itchy rash all over that sometimes becomes small blisters, and (newly, this morning) an incredibly red left eye - it doesn't itch or hurt, but my husband was horrified. I did some WebMD'ing and thought maybe my problem is mold-related, but then I read a huge study on Aspartame (Diet Coke, I drink about 5 a day when I'm trying to be moderate) Does anyone have any advice? I don't really know where to start...And CM Ram is a pricey place to start looking...

Rose, are you being serious?....."I don't know where to start"

Get yourself to a specialist ASAP and worry about the cost later.....a consultation anywhere is affordable.

[rrose070]

Seeing a specialist from CMR tomorrow. Wish me luck! And thanks, you guys...I guess I needed some convincing...

[uptheos]

Seeing a specialist from CMR tomorrow. Wish me luck! And thanks, you guys...I guess I needed some convincing...

All the best Rose,

[caf]

But ram can be twice the price of other hospitals for the same PROCEDURE carried out by the SAME doctor. Just my experience from a recent visit to Mccormick.

I did not refer to consultant or nursing fees which don't vary much in cost and are small beer. Ram does tend to carry out many unnecessary tests that other hospitals in Chiangmai do on a selective or basis appropriate to the problem presented.

Only my view, having been to both Ram and Mccormick

[james24]

mmm 5 a day is a crazy amount of coke to drink. In this heat your body loses incredible amounts of salt, sugar and minerals. Try replacing that drink with some ors sachets mixed in water. Im pretty sure that caffiene in coke is stringing your body out a bit too much which will in turn affect your outside and your thoughts.

Im sure the symptoms will calm if you try this.

[SwaziBird]

But ram can be twice the price of other hospitals for the same PROCEDURE carried out by the SAME doctor. Just my experience from a recent visit to Mccormick.

I did not refer to consultant or nursing fees which don't vary much in cost and are small beer. Ram does tend to carry out many unnecessary tests that other hospitals in Chiangmai do on a selective or basis appropriate to the problem presented.

Only my view, having been to both Ram and Mccormick

Sorry caf.

I was focusing on a consultation cost for Rose to see a specialist. Missed your point - which certainly sounds worth looking into.

Cheers

[Ulysses G.]

I did an all night sleeping test at Sripat Hospital fairly recently, because of recommendations on this forum that it was cheaper than Ram Hospital. The doctors were great, but I waited for them for many, many hours and had to go a number of times to get the appointment for the test. When I checked the price was the same in both places, but I went ahead and did it at Sripat as I had already invested so much time.

When I go to Ram, it is convenient, they usually speak English well, they do a good job and I never have to wait more than a few moments (and I have never paid much more than other good hospitals). I'm glad that it is here.

Edited August 22, 2010 by Ulysses G.

[elektrified]

caf is right. It depends on which location you see the same Doctor at. For example, Dr. Siri Chiewchanvit, the top Dermatologist in town charges only 50 Baht (or sometimes even less) if you see him at his Moon Muang clinic, 150 Baht on up if you see him at his Sripat clinic, and 300 Baht on up if you see him at his Chiang Mai Ram clinic.

[Ulysses G.]

In that particular situation, I would much prefer paying 150 baht more to avoid many hours of waiting for a doctor.

Almost every time I went to Sripat, they scheduled me for early in the morning and after waiting for hours, they would go to lunch right before my number came up, so it would take at least another hour to get seen.

[cardinalblue]

Find yourslef an excellent Adult Medicine/FP doctor. Select him/her based on recommedations regardless where he pracices. Let him decide what specialist(s) you need to see vs your own diagnosis. You could be having multiple symptoms due to one illness or multiple but separate illnesses...Why start with a Dematologist?

Start at the top in the decision-making tree rather than junping in based on a biased decision on your part unless you have experience or medical knowledge..

CB

[uptheos]

In that particular situation, I would much prefer paying 150 baht more to avoid many hours of waiting for a doctor.

Almost every time I went to Sripat, they scheduled me for early in the morning and after waiting for hours, they would go to lunch right before my number came up, so it would take at least another hour to get seen.

Last week I had a really bad eye irritation.

Walked into CR at 0930

Saw the lovely Dr Rachada at 10-30 - eye examined, foreign body removed.

Walked out of CR at 11 am with eye drops for a week, irritation completely gone and minus 600 baht

Price of a steak and the bargain of the week.

[Dustoff]

Find yourslef an excellent Adult Medicine/FP doctor. Select him/her based on recommedations regardless where he pracices. Let him decide what specialist(s) you need to see vs your own diagnosis. You could be having multiple symptoms due to one illness or multiple but separate illnesses...Why start with a Dematologist?

Start at the top in the decision-making tree rather than junping in based on a biased decision on your part unless you have experience or medical knowledge..

CB

I agree!

I have gotten myself and my family away from Sripat and RAM and trying to guess what specialist we should see.

Dr. Nisachon Morgan, who has her own clinic on Hangdong Rd near Lotus is an excellent Family Physician, economical, generously provides personal follow-up contacts and monthly email newsletters of local medical interests, speaks very good English (perhaps better than mine) and knows very well where to farm her patients out for labs and specialists, even providing transportation if you need it.

She also maintains a 24-hr telephone help line for patients who provide their address and a map to their home so if you need

an ambulance in a hurry in the middle of the night, she will make sure you get your help NOW! There is no fee for this service..

If you live anywhere around the airport area (or wherever), I would highly recommend her!

Good health, Rosie-Girl!

Dr. Nisachon Morgan

HEALTH CARE MEDICAL CLINIC

275 Moo 6 T. MaeHia

A. Muang Chiangmai 50100

Tel & Fax: 053804405

healthcaremedicalclinic(dot)com

Dustoff

Edited August 23, 2010 by Dustoff

[uptheos]

Find yourslef an excellent Adult Medicine/FP doctor. Select him/her based on recommedations regardless where he pracices. Let him decide what specialist(s) you need to see vs your own diagnosis. You could be having multiple symptoms due to one illness or multiple but separate illnesses...Why start with a Dematologist?

Start at the top in the decision-making tree rather than junping in based on a biased decision on your part unless you have experience or medical knowledge..

CB

I agree!

I have gotten myself and my family away from Sripat and RAM and trying to guess what specialist we should see.

Dr. Nisachon Morgan, who has her own clinic on Hangdong Rd near Lotus is an excellent Family Physician, economical, generously provides personal follow-up contacts and monthly email newsletters of local medical interests, speaks very good English (perhaps better than mine) and knows very well where to farm her patients out for labs and specialists, even providing transportation if you need it.

She also maintains a 24-hr telephone help line for patients who provide their address and a map to their home so if you need

an ambulance in a hurry in the middle of the night, she will make sure you get your help NOW! There is no fee for this service..

If you live anywhere around the airport area (or wherever), I would highly recommend her!

Good health, Rosie-Girl!

Dr. Nisachon Morgan

HEALTH CARE MEDICAL CLINIC

275 Moo 6 T. MaeHia

A. Muang Chiangmai 50100

Tel & Fax: 053804405

healthcaremedicalclinic(dot)com

Dustoff

Thanks very much for this....most helpful indeed.

[antipodesant]

In that particular situation, I would much prefer paying 150 baht more to avoid many hours of waiting for a doctor.

Almost every time I went to Sripat, they scheduled me for early in the morning and after waiting for hours, they would go to lunch right before my number came up, so it would take at least another hour to get seen.

Last week I had a really bad eye irritation.

Walked into CR at 0930

Saw the lovely Dr Rachada at 10-30 - eye examined, foreign body removed.

Walked out of CR at 11 am with eye drops for a week, irritation completely gone and minus 600 baht

Price of a steak and the bargain of the week.

I would happily pay that just to look at and talk to her. My aspirations were dashed when I found that she had gotten herself married.

[elektrified]

I agree!

I have gotten myself and my family away from Sripat and RAM and trying to guess what specialist we should see.

Dr. Nisachon Morgan, who has her own clinic on Hangdong Rd near Lotus is an excellent Family Physician, economical, generously provides personal follow-up contacts and monthly email newsletters of local medical interests, speaks very good English (perhaps better than mine) and knows very well where to farm her patients out for labs and specialists, even providing transportation if you need it.

She also maintains a 24-hr telephone help line for patients who provide their address and a map to their home so if you need

an ambulance in a hurry in the middle of the night, she will make sure you get your help NOW! There is no fee for this service..

If you live anywhere around the airport area (or wherever), I would highly recommend her!

Good health, Rosie-Girl!

Dr. Nisachon Morgan

HEALTH CARE MEDICAL CLINIC

275 Moo 6 T. MaeHia

A. Muang Chiangmai 50100

Tel & Fax: 053804405

healthcaremedicalclinic(dot)com

Dustoff

I 2nd the recommendation.

[rrose070]

Thanks, you guys. I feel so cared for! I'm now scheduled with Dr. Morgan, 11:00 tomorrow. I had forgotten to mention in my list of symptoms that I've also developed a very odd sleeping schedule - it almost reads like Narcolepsy - Around noon, my body and mind just totally give way and I MUST sleep for about 2 hours. Totally unable to control it. Then I wake up in the middle of the night. Aargh. It's a bitch getting old, ain't it? I feel better just having so many good recommendations. Also, the eye is about halfway better today. I'll let you know what they say!

[Dustoff]

Don't know if this will catch you in time and I am sure that Dr. Morgan will have you do blood tests but,

from your symptoms, ask her to include a check of your thyroid function. And, if you are still online,

google hypothyroidism...

Our very best to you and Danny-boy, Rebel...

Ken/Dustoff

[caf]

Hi Rose

Hope things are going well now. You have certainly received a lot of good advice on this forum.

I think it was Ulysses that talked about - on a different thread now closed - that the power of Thaivisa was its large and varied membership. One just needs to filter out the posts that tend to be a bit partronising or biased towards one solution. And concentrate on those from posters with obvious personal experience

I have never consulted Dr Morgan but I have made a note of Dustoff's recommendation for my own records. And as I said, confirmed by another poster, CMR is a bit expat / tourist biased, tends to charge up for procedures not related to the symptoms, and has a higher price tag for the same procedures and the same doctors that one can see at other hospitals. ( In my case I compare with Mccormick )

How did your appointment with CMR for 23rd go as mentioned in your earlier post?

Good luck

caf

[Ulysses G.]

One just needs to filter out the posts that tend to be a bit partronising or biased towards one solution. And concentrate on those from posters with obvious personal experience

Good advice. Some posters seem to be on a crusade against certain hospitals and certain clinics, but if you search the forum database, you will find that they have plenty of well informed and satisfied customers. It is best to take many posts on TV with a grain of salt.

Edited August 24, 2010 by Ulysses G.

[caf]

Agreed, Ulysses

The posters to read are those who don't have axes to grind. I can talk of Ram and Mccormick from personal experience

I don't comment on hospitals I don't know.

Ram is expat and tourist oriented by their own admission and as another poster pointed out same procedure, same doctor can be more expensive at Ram.

Some crusaders as you call them can be just as blindly praising a hospital as criticising it. Never understood why Ram and Charlies Fish and Chips seem to get the golden treatment from some posters. Some odd old breeds in Chiangmai, methinks.

I hope Rose gets well soon. She's had some good unbiased advice here

[uptheos]

"Never understood why Ram and Charlies Fish and Chips seem to get the golden treatment from some posters".

Look out for Charlies Fish and Chips, coming soon to the CR hospital cafetria.

[rrose070]

Thanks so much, Dus and all the rest of you. I've now had a fairly comprehensive exam by Dr. Morgan; Dus, you seem to have been on the mark - she said her first feeling was that it was a thyroid problem - either hypo or hyper; further test to be run for (sorry; sp: endocrine) results. This to be followed by a fasting blood sugar test. Dustoff, I did get your message in time but did not have time to write back my thanks to you! I can vouch for Dr. Morgan's bedside manner and her thoroughness - we discussed everything from my grandparents, to my parents, to me, to things normally considered private. Complete with blood work-up, several days' medication, both topical and oral (for allergy/rash): about 1650. However, I've been advised to only post the true results achieved here. So all I can say is: looks good so far!

Thanks again!

RR

[tijnebijn]

Peace people peace , your red ammunition for the day is already spent .

Anyway I've got mixed feelings and dealings with Ram hospital .

First of all they overcharge too many , but mostly I felt happy and feel save with their

services .

But I've got another reason why I will never take a step in this place again ,

I've never told this on the forum for obvious reasons , cause I have lost

my unborn son by actually a mistake by the female doctor Cathreeya ( 3 years ago ),

I don't know the technical term in English but she should have taken care of my wife

more carefully , if she did so , she could have performed the caesarian section earlier , my wife had stomach pain ( 8 1/2 months pregnant ), turned out the umbilical cord went around our baby's head and basically strangled himself. My wife didn't get any heavier for a pretty long time , which is unusual , but she still didn't take a more serious look , no bells were ringing ...afterwards I feel it was all awkward .

But what happened did happen , and I'm not angry of her , we forgave her , she is a very nice lady , he's not coming back , mistakes together with surprises do happen , also with doctors .

Luckily we still have our 2 other sons , but there is certainly enough to say about Ram .

thank you very much .

[Ulysses G.]

It is very sad about your unborn son, but you do know that every hospital makes such mistakes? Most people consider Bumrungrad Hospital to be Thailand's best, but it is easy to Google a lot of complaints like yours. It is still sad though.

Edited August 24, 2010 by Ulysses G.

[Dustoff]

Thanks so much, Dus and all the rest of you. I've now had a fairly comprehensive exam by Dr. Morgan; Dus, you seem to have been on the mark - she said her first feeling was that it was a thyroid problem - either hypo or hyper; further test to be run for (sorry; sp: endocrine) results. This to be followed by a fasting blood sugar test. Dustoff, I did get your message in time but did not have time to write back my thanks to you! I can vouch for Dr. Morgan's bedside manner and her thoroughness - we discussed everything from my grandparents, to my parents, to me, to things normally considered private. Complete with blood work-up, several days' medication, both topical and oral (for allergy/rash): about 1650. However, I've been advised to only post the true results achieved here. So all I can say is: looks good so far!

Thanks again!

RR

My pleasure and she is indeed quite brilliant, isn't she? It is so incredibly rare to find a doctor who takes such care and interest and wait until you experience her follow-up!

We have had some both good and disappointing experiences in hospital environments here, and everywhere else. There is something special about a truly concerned personal physician who 'cracks the books' on a regular basis and they are, unfortunately, very difficult to find.

Good luck! I trust that you are in good hands and thank you for starting a very interesting and informative thread!

Let us hope that the mods will erase the angry children's posts here that are about nothing more than egos, eh?

It has been a long time but our continued best to you and your's, Reb..

Dustoff

Edited August 24, 2010 by Dustoff