Three Unexploded Bombs Found In Bangkok Area: Police

[OhMyCodBangkok]

Seems to be a lot here on TV who have a real hate thing going with the Thai cops.

No offense meant but if you have lived here for a long time and you don't have an issue with the Police and their lack of professionalism and/or integrity you must not be watching.

I can count on one hand the number of Thai's I know that trust and/or like the police. Most Thai's consider them to be the most corrupt segment of society. Again I realize my sampling is rather small, maybe 60 or 70 Thai's I either work with or know personally but it is far and away the most hated group of people in Thailand by other Thai's.

I don't think they are all breaking the law or reading TV so I am pretty sure they came to those conclusions on their own whether rightly so or not.

[rubl]

Bomb disposal a pretext for the state of emergency: Pheu Thai

By The Nation

The Pheu Thai Party on Thursday blamed the government for staging a series of bomb disposals as a pretext to continue enforcing the state of emergency.

Opposition lawmakers pointed their finger at the government as the culprit in the face of the homemade bombs found and defused on Wednesday.

Deputy House Speaker Apiwan Wiriyachai from Pheu Thai said although the people wanted the resumption of normalcy, the powers-that-be were staging disturbances to justify emergency rule.

Apiwan was commenting on two homemade bombs in Nonthaburi.

Pheu Thai MP and red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan said the government was behind every attempted bombing incident.

"The red-shirt movement is not capable of carrying out bomb attacks at this time," he said, voicing sarcasm that most red shirts are too busy trying to save their lives to do anything else.

Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban said the bombs were an indication that a certain party wanted to disrupt normalcy.

"The government is obligated to ensure safety and pacify the situation," he said, though conceding it is an uphill battle to deter bomb attacks even though tough security measures are still in place.

-- The Nation 2010-09-09

PT blamed government for bomb disposal ? Should they have been left where found, just tying a yellow / red ribbon around them ?

Something lost in translation I think, or just the usual K. Jatuporn speech.

Edited September 9, 2010 by rubl

[Buchholz]

Pheu Thai MP and red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan said the government was behind every attempted bombing incident.

PTP/UDD Jatuporn has forgotten what the PTP/UDD lawyer Kharom told him earlier:

Residue of bomb chemical found in suspect's home

The Nation - July 10, 2010

Some explosive residues were found at the home of one of the two suspects accused of plotting last month's bomb attack on Bhum Jai Thai Party headquarters, senior crime scene investigation officials said yesterday.

An unknown quantity of the RDX chemical was found near a bathroom and the kitchen in suspect Warisriya Bunsom's home in Bangkok. Warisriya is under court custody after being arrested earlier this week, officials said.

Seksan Sritulakarn and Watchara Chalermsuksant, who conducted the test at the suspect's home, said lab results to be released on Monday would verify if the RDX substance found in Warisriya's home was the sort used in the homemade bomb that went off outside the party's headquarters.

A search at her home yesterday also turned up foot and heart-shaped clappers that were used by supporters of the pro-Thaksin Shinawatra Democratic Alliance against Dictatorship (DAAD) movement, as well as a black jacket and a pair of black pants hidden in a roll of canvas.

Kharom Pholthaklang, a DAAD supporter and lawyer for Warisriya, said he would meet DAAD leader Jatuporn Promphan to explain that she was indeed a red shirt supporter.

This is in response to Jatuporn's statement earlier yesterday denying that she had anything to do with the red shirt movement.

"The DAAD leaders may not know all the red shirts, but every red shirt protester knows and supports the DAAD leaders," Kharom added.

[OhMyCodBangkok]

And yes, I do side with Redshirts. I support my Thai family and they feel segregated, wronged, and threatened by this government.

Stunning comment, could you please in detail explain why and how your family feel wronged AND threatened by THIS gov't?

Meaning leave out any rumor or name calling or blaming the yellows etc, I am stunned to hear that anybody feels THREATENED by this gov't

Yet this same family of yours was ok with what happened during the latest Red Shirt camp fire in downtown BKK where so many of their fellow citizens come to earn their living to send money home?

Please don't take me the wrong way I am not a supporter of the Yellows or any shirt color for that matter but I am staggered that anybody could feel threatened by this gov't just not clear on what they see as being threatening..

[whybother]

What facts are twisted. I would be interested to know.

<snip>

The government's campaign against the opposition has resulted in the death of almost a hundred unarmed protesters and the injury of approximately two thousand people.

The first major episode of repression took place in April 2009, when the Abhisit administration carried out a violent dispersal of Red Shirt demonstrations in Bangkok.

after a weeklong crackdown that saw the military fire thousands of live rounds on unarmed protesters, innocent bystanders, emergency medical workers, and journalists.

No mention at all in the article of there being armed protesters or that 10 soldiers were killed and 400 injured by the protesters. Of course, some people still believe that there weren't any armed protesters.

Edited September 9, 2010 by whybother

[random]

[quote name='ableguy

mmmmmm must have been the government that torched all the store, robbed the ATMS, set up the barricades, closed down half of the commercial district blah blah blah, get a life.

wow, get a life, did you think of that all by yourself. I have a life thanks, just because our opinions differ does not mean I have no life, it didn't take long for the abuse to start from those with no real input into the debate.

I am sure some red shirts were involved in those acts, i have never said other wise, I never said anything of the sort in the post that you quote or any other post, I have also made it clear that I am not a red shirt supporter, I have had to do that quite a few times for the hard of thinking. However if you think this justifies the army going onto the streets and randomly shooting people, including the press and other unarmed people then I pity you.

My question to you is this, if the Government ordered the army to shoot unarmed yellow shirts during the siege of government house and the terrorist acts at the airports would you have this stance, would you be criticising the government or would you be saying the yellows deserved it? just a thought. It seems one of us is wearing a colour and it isn't me.

[whybother]

[quote name='ableguy

mmmmmm must have been the government that torched all the store, robbed the ATMS, set up the barricades, closed down half of the commercial district blah blah blah, get a life.

wow, get a life, did you think of that all by yourself. I have a life thanks, just because our opinions differ does not mean I have no life, it didn't take long for the abuse to start from those with no real input into the debate.

I am sure some red shirts were involved in those acts, i have never said other wise, I never said anything of the sort in the post that you quote or any other post, I have also made it clear that I am not a red shirt supporter, I have had to do that quite a few times for the hard of thinking. However if you think this justifies the army going onto the streets and randomly shooting people, including the press and other unarmed people then I pity you.

My question to you is this, if the Government ordered the army to shoot unarmed yellow shirts during the siege of government house and the terrorist acts at the airports would you have this stance, would you be criticising the government or would you be saying the yellows deserved it? just a thought. It seems one of us is wearing a colour and it isn't me.

Did the government order the army to shoot unarmed red shirts, or did they order the army to protect themselves and the community from armed red shirts? Or don't you think there were any armed red shirts?

[idiot farang]

isn't it amazing how normally the police could not find their own &lt;deleted&gt; with both hands, yet they seem to be finding unexploded bombs in places they would not normally even visit, the more sceptical amongst us can see these alleged explosives for exactly what they are, an excuse to continue with the pointless and oppressive state of emergency that is keeping other political parties down.

Amazing thailand

exactly my thoughts.

i have no Thai political leanings. it's just the smell test, really. their uncanny ability to find these unexploded bombs seems, frankly, comical. also, i doubt the reds would really be targeting schools. seems like blatant propaganda to me.

[rubl]

My question to you is this, if the Government ordered the army to shoot unarmed yellow shirts during the siege of government house and the terrorist acts at the airports would you have this stance, would you be criticising the government or would you be saying the yellows deserved it? just a thought. It seems one of us is wearing a colour and it isn't me.

Theoretical questions ? What about my claim that the moon is made of cheese? Still waiting for you to disprove.

[whybother]

isn't it amazing how normally the police could not find their own &lt;deleted&gt; with both hands, yet they seem to be finding unexploded bombs in places they would not normally even visit, the more sceptical amongst us can see these alleged explosives for exactly what they are, an excuse to continue with the pointless and oppressive state of emergency that is keeping other political parties down.

Amazing thailand

exactly my thoughts.

i have no Thai political leanings. it's just the smell test, really. their uncanny ability to find these unexploded bombs seems, frankly, comical. also, i doubt the reds would really be targeting schools. seems like blatant propaganda to me.

They targeted a poor community with their threats to blow up a gas tanker in 2009.

[Robby nz]

Pheu Thai MP and red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan said the government was behind every attempted bombing incident.

That proves it then doesnt it?

Wonder when he will produce the tape to prove it.

Just like the one he said he would produce regarding V Bout.

Wonder why some think the Govt needs to justify the SOE?

Seems to me its in the Govt interest to lift the SOE as soon as possible.

Then they can say things are back to normal proving that they have done a good job containing the situation.

Also should be in the reds interest to shut up and let the SOE be lifted.

Then there would be a chance of an early election they say the want.

But that might not be in Jataporn's best interest.

If the house is desolved prior to an election would he not lose his immunity?

If that is the case 'go to jail Mr J'

[straycat911]

Let's see. Bombs are found and/or detonated routinely in Bangkok for over a year. Citizens know this.

A citizen sees a suspicious object laying in a public place. They call the police. The police arrive to find it is a bomb. The disposal crew are called out.

Rocket science?

I agree with you. last year in my home area in pratunam, a small box containing wires and what looked like a telephone and a metal box was found sitting in front of a internet cafe, i just steped over it thinking it was just someones trash and i sat at a computer near the door (which is where the box was sitting), someone walked in and said to leave the area that a bomb was placed in frot of the building, (of course i didnt beleive but to be safe we all cleared out, then someone called the police and they arrived very quickly (unlike what most people say, the police were faster then the USA police) i was amazed, but it turned out to be a false bomb,

The cafe camera caught a car drive up and someone (unidentyed) drop the package and speed away as far as i know, they were never caught

[Tokay]

Hmmmmm.... there is a fire extinguisher in the hallway. Calling the police now....

[rubl]

My question to you is this, if the Government ordered the army to shoot unarmed yellow shirts during the siege of government house and the terrorist acts at the airports would you have this stance, would you be criticising the government or would you be saying the yellows deserved it? just a thought. It seems one of us is wearing a colour and it isn't me.

Well what'll you know, not a hypothetical question after all. You may not like the answer though as it says:

"The riot police, armed with masks, batons, steel helmets and shields, began trooping into the rally site in the afternoon, after PM Samak threatened to use force to disperse the rally if the PAD did not move out of the area within Saturday during a special TV program on Saturday morning.

But later Interior Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung said that the government would not use force as it earlier warned to end the rally.

Chalerm said Samak made the threat because earlier intelligence report suggested that a group of ill-intentioned people had gathered at a law office in Bangkok to plot violent attacks at the rally to instigate the situation.

Now that the government managed to thwart the plot, there was no need to use force to end the rally, said Chalerm, adding that the protesters are allowed to continue their rally as long as it is conducted in line with laws."

( http://www.china.org.cn/international/news/2008-06/01/content_15573688.htm )

[Wolfie]

i have no Thai political leanings. it's just the smell test, really. their uncanny ability to find these unexploded bombs seems, frankly, comical. also, i doubt the reds would really be targeting schools. seems like blatant propaganda to me.

They dragged patients out of a hospital and paraded them on the red stage, so if they can violate hospitals then why not schools?

[ianf]

[quote name='ableguy

mmmmmm must have been the government that torched all the store, robbed the ATMS, set up the barricades, closed down half of the commercial district blah blah blah, get a life.

wow, get a life, did you think of that all by yourself. I have a life thanks, just because our opinions differ does not mean I have no life, it didn't take long for the abuse to start from those with no real input into the debate.

I am sure some red shirts were involved in those acts, i have never said other wise, I never said anything of the sort in the post that you quote or any other post, I have also made it clear that I am not a red shirt supporter, I have had to do that quite a few times for the hard of thinking. However if you think this justifies the army going onto the streets and randomly shooting people, including the press and other unarmed people then I pity you.

My question to you is this, if the Government ordered the army to shoot unarmed yellow shirts during the siege of government house and the terrorist acts at the airports would you have this stance, would you be criticising the government or would you be saying the yellows deserved it? just a thought. It seems one of us is wearing a colour and it isn't me.

Did the government order the army to shoot unarmed red shirts, or did they order the army to protect themselves and the community from armed red shirts? Or don't you think there were any armed red shirts?

I think peeps have to get this whole damned thing in perspective. The reds will and have used every inch of propaganda in order to stupify their supporters. Their leaders are not exactly the brightest apples in the box, but what they are good at is twisting facts, creating mayhem, making simple people believe that the ruling Government is evil and the rest of it. Actually, I do have a lot of faith in Abhisit - but not of the cronies around him apart from perhaps the finance minister. There is no doubt that his personal agenda is to clean up politics here - and that is evidenced by his survival thus far in the hot seat (he is no doubt backed by higher powers who share his vision of honesty and care about the ordinary Thai people). People like the red leaders and their sad acolytes have a remarkable knack of always creating diversions so that the real issues do not have to be faced. It is ridiculous and not at all rational to fear this Government and then support a leader who was clearly undemocratic (by any measure); it is ridiculous to blame this Government for the deaths of demonstrators (without evidence) and yet not fear a previous leader who transparently ordered hundreds of extra-judicial killings. It is equally ridiculous to cry poverty and yet support an idol whose massive wealth was in part stolen from the mouths of the poor.

Open your eyes and at least take a balanced view - look at the massive social programme devised by the current goverment then don't tell me that Khun Thaksin invented the 50 baht health care programme (he simply picked that up from his predecessor). I'm afraid the manipulation of the masses is the only thing that Thaksin was good at and his strategy was simply to smile at you and tell you how much he loves you whilst his associates were picking your back pocket.

I don't want to be accused of being a yellow supporter. Opposing the red shirt movement for the dangerous scam that it is does not make me yellow. I have always been opposed to neo-fascism whether of the left or right and I will continue to do so. I know just how easily Thaksin's movement, if given power, could turn that to absolute power and destroy the lives of millions, just like the Burmese generals have done across the border. I hate oppression. That's why I oppose Thaksin. He has no morals and no principles and Thailand will become a dangerous place if he returns as leader.

[pedro01]

"The red-shirt movement is not capable of carrying out bomb attacks at this time," he said, voicing sarcasm that most red shirts are too busy trying to save their lives to do anything else.

What a quote.

So I presume K Jutaporn is up to speed on the status of the Reds bomb making abilities

What an oaf !

[asiawatcher]

Hate to disagree with all this - Bombs are found? C'mon guys what a joke. They were meant to be found. Bombs are NEVER found in a city of 12M people unless they are planted and then disclosed for purpose of distraction. The only bombs meant to happen - do! As has been so sorely pointed out the BiB could not find their way to a toilet seat if they has the runs!

This is more thuggery and tactics by a mob of morons who don't have enough brains between them to bless themselves. And they expect votes?

So whilst the BiB gain some PR as 'looking' effective the Bangkokians know otherwise. And so do I. Wake up all....

[ianf]

Hate to disagree with all this - Bombs are found? C'mon guys what a joke. They were meant to be found. Bombs are NEVER found in a city of 12M people unless they are planted and then disclosed for purpose of distraction. The only bombs meant to happen - do! As has been so sorely pointed out the BiB could not find their way to a toilet seat if they has the runs!

This is more thuggery and tactics by a mob of morons who don't have enough brains between them to bless themselves. And they expect votes?

So whilst the BiB gain some PR as 'looking' effective the Bangkokians know otherwise. And so do I. Wake up all....

And HOW do you know? We should be told!

[newtronbom]

<snip> an excuse to continue with the pointless and oppressive state of emergency that is keeping other political parties down.

You find the State of Emergency oppressive? How So?

I've lived in Central Bangkok through out the whole episode, i have not found my daily life to be even slightly affected by the State Of Emergency.

Like you Wolfie, I have not seen any change to my life because of this decree. I have lived in Bangkok area for years. Extra security is only bad for those who are doing wrong......

[moetownblues]

If one were to look at several of the recent bombings in which the perpetrators were identified, such as Bhum Thai Party headquarters and at Big C, one could find that the Red Shirt Bomber Squad is responsible. They've acknowledged this themselves by admitting to them.

Do you have the source so I can read where they have admitted to this?

It seems when ever anything goes wrong in thailand Farangs on here quickly jump and blame red shirts. Flooding in the north, bloody red shirts, Thai baht is to high bloody red shirts. My cooffee went cold bloody red shirts. Really people red shirts are not the blame for your woes nor those of Thailand.

[rubl]

If one were to look at several of the recent bombings in which the perpetrators were identified, such as Bhum Thai Party headquarters and at Big C, one could find that the Red Shirt Bomber Squad is responsible. They've acknowledged this themselves by admitting to them.

Do you have the source so I can read where they have admitted to this?

It seems when ever anything goes wrong in thailand Farangs on here quickly jump and blame red shirts. Flooding in the north, bloody red shirts, Thai baht is to high bloody red shirts. My cooffee went cold bloody red shirts. Really people red shirts are not the blame for your woes nor those of Thailand.

Nice rant, but a wee bit unfounded, wouldn't you agree? Only about the cold coffee you might be right, I was a bit distracted by random

[philw]

My question to you is this, if the Government ordered the army to shoot unarmed yellow shirts during the siege of government house and the terrorist acts at the airports would you have this stance, would you be criticising the government or would you be saying the yellows deserved it? just a thought. It seems one of us is wearing a colour and it isn't me.

Theoretical questions ? What about my claim that the moon is made of cheese? Still waiting for you to disprove.

"As usual, obviously my 2-cents worth of personal opinion, as far as I can remember.

Still here and wondering."

Presumably about the cheese..............

[mccw]

Blatantly red terrorists!

They've proven this is there style by public actions already.

Lie lie lie, denie, pass the blame and do the terrible again, it's not us it's fake reds; heard it all before; scum

[rubl]

My question to you is this, if the Government ordered the army to shoot unarmed yellow shirts during the siege of government house and the terrorist acts at the airports would you have this stance, would you be criticising the government or would you be saying the yellows deserved it? just a thought. It seems one of us is wearing a colour and it isn't me.

Theoretical questions ? What about my claim that the moon is made of cheese? Still waiting for you to disprove.

"As usual, obviously my 2-cents worth of personal opinion, as far as I can remember.

Still here and wondering."

Presumably about the cheese..............

Finally humor, well done Phil, I like that one.

Unfortunately you fail to quote the original post where I made that remark. Random made an unfounded statement and dared me to prove otherwise. So I felt I might as well return one

[moe666]

Since the moon is cheese what kind of cheese.

[sirchai]

Anybody ever read Mad magazine in the States?

There was a cartoon series in it called "Spy versus Spy."

IMO, this comic strip pretty much sums up what is going on in Thailand these days.

Okay let's paint them red and yellow. i mean Spy& Spy

[Buchholz]

Police were alerted to the explosive devices - one found at a parking lot of the Mall shopping centre on Ngamwongwan Road and another at the parking lot of the Public Health Ministry.

It seems some passerby saw it and phoned it in, I would think most people would if they found a bomb.

Post bumped as it bears repeating as some members are still under the mistaken notion (erroneously postulated earlier) that the police found the bombs.

isn't it amazing how normally the police could not find their own &lt;deleted&gt; with both hands, yet they seem to be finding unexploded bombs in places they would not normally even visit, the more sceptical amongst us can see these alleged explosives for exactly what they are, an excuse to continue with the pointless and oppressive state of emergency that is keeping other political parties down.

Amazing thailand

exactly my thoughts.

i have no Thai political leanings. it's just the smell test, really. their uncanny ability to find these unexploded bombs seems, frankly, comical. also, i doubt the reds would really be targeting schools. seems like blatant propaganda to me.

see above.

Edited September 9, 2010 by Buchholz

[rubl]

Since the moon is cheese what kind of cheese.

The opinions about the type of cheese still vary. No conclusion yet. Don't worry, we'll let you know when the need arises

[Buchholz]

If one were to look at several of the recent bombings in which the perpetrators were identified, such as Bhum Thai Party headquarters and at Big C, one could find that the Red Shirt Bomber Squad is responsible. They've acknowledged this themselves by admitting to them.

Do you have the source so I can read where they have admitted to this?

It seems when ever anything goes wrong in thailand Farangs on here quickly jump and blame red shirts. Flooding in the north, bloody red shirts, Thai baht is to high bloody red shirts. My cooffee went cold bloody red shirts. Really people red shirts are not the blame for your woes nor those of Thailand.

I can understand that you are put off by my making simple, factual statements backed up by an entire thread of its own.

It's not in keeping with your own preference for wild exaggerations.