Influx Of Amputees On Chewang Beach Road

[screamingeagle]

Soi green mango at 3am loads of tourists legless

:cheesy:

[KTD]

When I lived in India, many years ago and got to know the locals, I was reliably informed that parents would main and disfigure their children to get more money begging. How terrible and sad. But the poverty in Thailand is much less severe than India so I doubt they do the same here. I hope!

I was going to say the same. Take a drive through New Delhi, the children you see there begging and young women with infants is truly tragic.

[HC82]

Thailand made a law not that long ago that anyone caught dismembering children to work as beggars would face the death penalty.

I agree with the law. The disgusting part is that they actually had to make it in the first place.

Edited October 10, 2010 by HC82

[angiud]

I wonder where these guys are from? They certainly won't have flown Bangkok Airways

Are these amputee beggars included in the official tourist arrivals numbers for the island?

hey all fly Bangkok Airways. The fare costs an arm and a leg!

Soi green mango at 3am loads of tourists legless

A meeting of very bad taste humor from very poor brain people

[SamuiDude]

They all fly Bangkok Airways. The fare costs an arm and a leg!

i dont think anyone is joking here, but these people are expolited due to there disfigurement ! , i also noted once in bangkok i used to pass the same begger every day, one day i passed him to see bandages all over his over hand, basically someone had cut off his fingers !!!! ..........

First - HAHAHAHA...

Second.. There's some "chop factories" (check your burger next time) basically which are the last option for some guys to get living as their mind don't approve robbing and stealing. BUT the sad part is that this kind of "Toyota" service is there to reap the benefits. Also, I got to say its not really the nicest of views on place where u come to relax and party. Most of us got plenty of misery to view back at our home lands. Chaweng Beach road should be kept clean of "Bali Infection". All these mishaps contribute to islands downward spiral in arrivals. And this word (when its out there) WILL NEVER help to ease it.

[goldfinger]

A meeting of very bad taste humor from very poor brain people

Angiud, very polite spoken.

[Tropicalevo]

Guys - please do not get hung up on the 'humour' here.

The beggars are very sad people and in a perfect world they would be looked after.

However, this is not a perfect world (and I am not talking just about Samui - this happens ALL over the world).

So - there is NOTHING that you, I or anyone else can do to help these people. They are being treated as commodities to be bought and sold by unscrupulous criminals and then used to collect cash from us - also victims in this scam. (The beggars get NONE of the money that you give.)

Here we are - we cannot help the beggars. We cannot stop them from being exploited. We cannot stop the criminals exploiting them, and they invade our personal space and push themselves in front of us to scam our money from us.

What can we do? We turn to humour and move on. It is called Black Humour and it is a part of our life.

And by the way - yes some of these people are deformed on purpose - so that they make us feel more sorry for them and hopefully fall for their scams. A lot of them are from Cambodia - so called 'land mine' victims. I have worked in Cambodia along with a number of friends. They too may not be so innocent.

It is common there for people (including children) to go looking for unexploded land mines and other ordinance. They then take these and try to use them to explode in a river or lake to blow up fish for food or to sell the ordinance in the local market. Guess what happens when you put an unexploded grenade or whatever in a shopping bag and then ride your motorbike or bicycle along a bumpy jungle track to the nearest market - with the bag banging against the metal frame of the bike?. BOOM! The other one is that they try to open the weapon with a hammer and nail to remove the explosive - yes BOOM It is so sad.

None of what I have written is nice or pleasant. But I guarantee that it happens.

I cannot fix it. I cannot stop it. I will not give money to criminals. It offends and frustrates me.

So stop trying to take the moral high ground here. What is your solution to the problem? What are you doing to help them?

Me, I cannot do anything so I will crack a joke and get on with my life.

[HC82]

The beggars get NONE of the money that you give

Do people repeating this over and over have any proof of that?

Even if the money is being collected from them, they are indirectly getting something in the way of food and shelter I imagine. If they weren't making money they wouldn't even get that and they'd be replaced - so us giving them a little something does probably indirectly help them.

I'm not supporting this 'industry' but I think saying they get absolutely nothing is probably not accurate.

[Rooo]

Removed several posts, trolling , flaming & bickering. Please do not get personal..

[jobsworth]

Guys - please do not get hung up on the 'humour' here.

The beggars are very sad people and in a perfect world they would be looked after.

However, this is not a perfect world (and I am not talking just about Samui - this happens ALL over the world).

So - there is NOTHING that you, I or anyone else can do to help these people. They are being treated as commodities to be bought and sold by unscrupulous criminals and then used to collect cash from us - also victims in this scam. (The beggars get NONE of the money that you give.)

Here we are - we cannot help the beggars. We cannot stop them from being exploited. We cannot stop the criminals exploiting them, and they invade our personal space and push themselves in front of us to scam our money from us.

What can we do? We turn to humour and move on. It is called Black Humour and it is a part of our life.

And by the way - yes some of these people are deformed on purpose - so that they make us feel more sorry for them and hopefully fall for their scams. A lot of them are from Cambodia - so called 'land mine' victims. I have worked in Cambodia along with a number of friends. They too may not be so innocent.

It is common there for people (including children) to go looking for unexploded land mines and other ordinance. They then take these and try to use them to explode in a river or lake to blow up fish for food or to sell the ordinance in the local market. Guess what happens when you put an unexploded grenade or whatever in a shopping bag and then ride your motorbike or bicycle along a bumpy jungle track to the nearest market - with the bag banging against the metal frame of the bike?. BOOM! The other one is that they try to open the weapon with a hammer and nail to remove the explosive - yes BOOM It is so sad.

None of what I have written is nice or pleasant. But I guarantee that it happens.

I cannot fix it. I cannot stop it. I will not give money to criminals. It offends and frustrates me.

So stop trying to take the moral high ground here. What is your solution to the problem? What are you doing to help them?

Me, I cannot do anything so I will crack a joke and get on with my life.

Thank you for an excellent post.

The problem is a Cambodian problem.

I am interested to know how these beggars travel from Cambodia to Thailand

with neither passport nor visa.

This is also an American problem.

There are many NGO organizations working in Cambodia.

They get money from the state department through USAID

formerly from President George Bush and now from Hillary Clinton.

The money all goes to faith based groups like World Vision

who do little to alleviate the crushing poverty that is Cambodia.

They rather spend the money on setting up foreign pedophiles of whom there are very few.

There is a lot of publicity in that and hence more money to fund their lavish lifestyles.

There is no money in helping poor people hence we see these Cambodian beggars on the streets

of tourist resorts in Thailand.

[BigC]

I think there armless enough

maybe they gave an arm and a leg to get out their and beg

somebody told me they would give their right arm for an english passport. maybe they are all english

[BigC]

remindes me of slum dog millionaire.

give money to registered charities.

not rreally into give money to the charity mafia

[Tropicalevo]

Hi jobsworth. Lots of truths in what you said, but please don't get me on the subject of most of the US NGO's in Cambodia. It's way off topic and not pretty.

The way to get the beggars to Thailand is simple.

"Come with me - I can get you a good job in Thailand earning $XX a day. You do not have a passport so we have to smuggle you in, in the back of a truck/lorry whatever.

We will feed and house you when you are there.

Do not say anything to the authorities as you are illegal, but after a while we will bring you back and pay you the money we that we owe you."

When they return -as with all financial slavery, it is the old "You owe us for the traveling, bribes, fines, finding you the job etc. Oh look - it comes to the same as the money we owe you."

It is not always this exact formula - but close. Human trafficking of some very poor and sad people. Similar to trafficking in the sex trade.

Very sad.

Edited October 11, 2010 by Tropicalevo

[BigC]

Hi jobsworth. Lots of truths in what you said, but please don't get me on the subject of most of the US NGO's in Cambodia. It's way off topic and not pretty.

The way to get the beggars to Thailand is simple.

"Come with me - I can get you a good job in Thailand earning $XX a day. You do not have a passport so we have to smuggle you in, in the back of a truck/lorry whatever.

We will feed and house you when you are there.

Do not say anything to the authorities as you are illegal, but after a while we will bring you back and pay you the money we that we owe you."

When they return -as with all financial slavery, it is the old "You owe us for the traveling, bribes, fines, finding you the job etc. Oh look - it comes to the same as the money we owe you."

It is not always this exact formula - but close. Human trafficking of some very poor and sad people. Similar to trafficking in the sex trade.

Very sad.

understood though if people generally were amputated. which allot of people are. then what would stop them from stopping for a break and sticking a in tin out for money.

its a shame if no so called mafia involvement then amputees could make allot of money from begging for me i would not have a problem with.

Like most people not being sure is enough to not want to give.

I don't call the people behinde this mafia. The Mafia as i know it have rules and some morals. like gambling and debt collecting.

I think all these other type of gangs are just common criminals. the lowest of the low. Even drug dealers are not worthy of being mafia. I mean anyone can sell gear. they normally get caught. they might be networked. By the old rules if u were involved in child porn, drug trafficing, and shooting civilians then u would be wacked!

Anyway the word mafia gets used to freely over here. Gangs that group together and do illegal things are not mafia.