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Ordered a Toyota Vigo 3.0D 4x4 a month ago...the dealer here is quite sketchy about how long it should take to arrive...just wondering if anyone else has recently bought one and how long you waited?

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rob

A friend of mine in Chumpon bought one early june, delivery tomorrow.

I hope this helps.

just my 2 satang

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My wife bought a Toyota Vios at the beginning of June. We were told it would take 2 weeks, but it ended up taking just over a week. My brother-in-law kept bugging the dealer every day. I don't know if that made any difference. Of course a Vios is quite different from a Vigo.

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The Vigo appears to have been adopted from a model offered in the US. Is it the Tacoma or the Tundra? I find the Vigo to be roomy on the inside with great seats...cab is not to great on the two door models but the interior is still bigger than the Mitsubishi Strada. It's been said that after 200,000 km the turbo charger has to be replaced. I think this costs quite a bit and I know of no other trucks that have this trouble. Have any of you Vigo owners experienced any turbo charger mishaps?

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The Vigo appears to have been adopted from a model offered in the US. Is it the Tacoma or the Tundra? I find the Vigo to be roomy on the inside with great seats...cab is not to great on the two door models but the interior is still bigger than the Mitsubishi Strada. It's been said that after 200,000 km the turbo charger has to be replaced. I think this costs quite a bit and I know of no other trucks that have this trouble. Have any of you Vigo owners experienced any turbo charger mishaps?

Probably a bit early to tell, Vigo has only been available in Thailand for past 18 months (approx), 200,000Km/18 months = 370 Km per day.

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malcominthemiddle...the point you made regarding the Vigo having only been around for 18 months is a good one. It's tough to judge a lot of these newer models. My father-in-law has a Hilux Tiger (2001) and the turbo charger had to be replaced after 200,000km. The dealership crooks told him this is typical of Toyota trucks; of course they would NEVER tell you the truth when you go to buy it from the showroom :o On the plus side, Toyota parts are readily available nationwide.

One vehicle we're looking at is the Toyota Avansa. I've heard mixed reports about this new model but with an attractive price tag, plenty of people space and good fuel efficiency, it may be a good deal. Toyota seems to be selling them like crazy.

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Isn't it good enough if the turbo charger lasts that long? Or is it supposed to last much longer? A lot of things goes wrong with cars after 100,000 km from my experience. How much does it cost to replace it anyway? Maybe if you install an aftermarket cooling fan under the hood that works after you kill the engine does that make it last longer (if there's such a thing available in Thailand)?

Actually when the per liter price of diesel is almost as high as 91 octane petrol, is there any point of choosing B100K more-expensive diesel version over petrol? Resale value higher for diesel?

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My family owns a 14 or 15 year old Mitsubishi Cyclone pickup (the generation just before the Strada) with over 500,000 km on it. All the major components are original including the turbo charger. It starts every time you turn the key. I believe it cost my father-in-law somewhere around 30,000 baht to have the turbo charger replaced in his Hilux Tiger. I think the turbo charger should last longer than 200,000km as I've never heard of anybody having to replace one.

Many cars do have trouble after 100,000km or 100,000 miles (160,000km) but as long as you don't abuse it and keep up with regular maintenance it should last well beyond that mileage. Resale value tends to be higher here for most vehicles than in the States but the initial cost is much higher (in proportion to wages/cost of living). However, labor is cheaper here so many folks will keep their old cars running. Lots of folks in our neighborhood are driving around in 1970's era cars.

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for reliability issues , most people would take a toyota over a mitsubishi , although there is probably not a lot in it.

toyota have built up a reputation for sound engineering and reliabilty.

any mechanical part can fail , be it after 100 miles or 100,000 miles and for something that rotates at high speed like a turbocharger to last 200,000 sounds pretty good to me.

and yes , i think that there are after market devices that help to cool down the turbo after the engine is switched off .

I've had a vigo for 4 months now , i had to wait 2 months for the 4wd auto version , but it was worth the wait. its turning out to be a fine vehicle , and the service from toyota is superb.

a new mitsubishi pick up is due out any time now , probably a better vehicle than the vigo , it certainly looks great , so if the wait is too long , just threaten to walk over the road to the mitsubishi man and see if that doesnt help to shorten the wait!

and a mitsubishi cyclone , 15 years old , 500,000kms !!!

with old diesel technology and half a million k's ..... have you any idea how much crap you are pumping into the atmosphere !!! we've all been behind those old clunkers , choking on the black clouds as it attempts to conquer a slight gradient or overtake a som tam cart !!

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and a mitsubishi cyclone , 15 years old , 500,000kms !!!

with old diesel technology and half a million k's ..... have you any idea how much crap you are pumping into the atmosphere !!! we've all been behind those old clunkers , choking on the black clouds as it attempts to conquer a slight gradient or overtake a som tam cart !!

Oh come on now!! :o The old Mitsubishi isn't THAT bad. In addition to the ozone destroying buses, I've seen single cylinder 110cc motorcycles pumping out more pollutants than the pickup. With regular gas being phased out next year (at least 95 octane for now) we may see more diesel pickups on the road. In terms of new cars, a diesel pickup with the standard transmission is probably the best value for the money in Thailand. The "city" cars are way overpriced for their quality and the good ones like Camry, Nissan Executive and Accord cost well over 1 million baht. Buying a used vehicle here is just as risky as buying one in the West unless you know somebody. Too bad the tax is so high on those four door pickups; some of the models (Vigo for instance) are priced well below 600,000 baht and they run forever.

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Ordered a Toyota Vigo 3.0D 4x4 a month ago...the dealer here is quite sketchy about how long it should take to arrive...just wondering if anyone else has recently bought one and how long you waited?

Thanks

rob

A friend of mine in Chumpon bought one early june, delivery tomorrow.

I hope this helps.

just my 2 satang

Aha, that's you then :o 2 satang hee....

jep, ordered 2 doors 3.0D 4x4 grey metallic somewhere may 21st, arrived 27th aug, but I needed to fly to LOS to get the car, nice tank though, somewhat heavy stuff compared to normal sedan, I feel I can crash anything now.

Gf wants mee to drive the tank into the living room every night (don't have garage) but doors are too small, thieves you know :D

P.S>. 2 satang, I am Jef because I was banned here using my usual nick defending some poor guy :D

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Turbo Charger life expectancy depends upon many things amongst them are:

Type of engine oil used, in the late senties early eighties what was known as series 3 oil was introduced (different brands differnt identifying methods) its purpose was to accomodate the driver who arrived at his/her destination and just simply switched off the engine not allowing a run down time for the "high RPM Turbo" to also come to rest prior to closuing the engine down.

The majority of turbocharger failures are found to be due to poor operating procedures; lack of, or improper maintenance; or incorrect repair practices.

How often have you seen diesel powered vehicles in Thailand belching "black smoke" - Excessive black smoke is unburnt fuel and contributes to greater wear and tear on the motor.

Preventative Maintenance:

Years of experience has shown that the largest percentage of turbocharger failures are caused by lubrication problems such as restriction or lack of oil flow and foreign material in the oil. The second largest percentage is caused by foreign objects entering the compressor and/or turbine wheels. Good maintenance practices should be observed, particularly regarding air filtration and oil quality and filtration. Innovative Turbo Systems recommends using a high grade synthetic oil in the correct viscosity and follow the vehicle manufacturers recommended oil and filter change intervals. Racing and/or severe applications needs more frequent intervals. These areas are important because of a turbochargers speed of operation. Proper operating procedures and preventive maintenance practices give good turbo service life and performance. Since lubrication is supplied by the engine on which the turbocharger is mounted, periodic maintenance in the usual sense is not required on a Innovative-type turbocharger, with the possible exception of occasional compressor stage cleaning. For these reasons, preventive maintenance of a turbocharger consists primarily of ensuring that the integrity of the engine/charge air system is maintained and that the engine is not operated in a manner that is detrimental to the operation of the turbocharger and engine. The vehicle owner should be encouraged to observe the following precautions to ensure maximum turbocharger service life:

1.Operate the engine above idle only after normal engine oil pressure has been established. Revving the engine immediately after start-up can force the turbocharger to operate at maximum speed before the bearings can be adequately lubricated. A turbocharger running with insufficient lubrication can suffer some amount of bearing damage. Repeated occurrence may lead to premature turbocharger failure.

2.Take steps to reduce temperatures and speeds from their maximums before shutting the engine down. turbochargers operate at speeds and continuous temperatures that are higher than most other machines. When an engine is run at maximum power/torque output, turbocharger speeds and temperatures are also at maximum. Problems can be caused for the engine and more so for the turbocharger when the engine is shut off at this point. This may require operation at medium idle or at "light load" conditions while still maintaining full engine oil pressure and airflow over the cooling system. Following these guidelines will prevent prolonged turbocharger rotation without lubrication and the formation of carbon deposits that can form as residual oil is decomposed in the bearings and center housing (heat soak-back).

3.The turbocharger may need to be pre-oiled after an oil change or any service that involves oil draining. Crank the engine a few times before allowing it to start, then start the engine and allow it to idle for a period to establish full oil circulation and pressure before operating at higher rpm.

4. At low ambient temperatures, or whenever the vehicle has not been used for a long period, normal engine oil pressure and flow is affected. Under these conditions the engine should be started and allowed to idle for a few minutes before operating at a higher rpm.

5.Avoid long periods of engine idling. The combination of low-pressures in the turbine and compressor and low turbocharger shaft rotation speed may allow oil to seep past the seal into the turbine or the compressor. This will generally not harm the unit mechanically, but it may foul the wheel and cause slight smoking and a possible imbalance condition.

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