Thai Daughter To The Uk

[topdjdel]

Many thanks in advance.

I will try and keep this query brief.My wife(Thai) has lived with me in the UK for 7yrs now and has 2 children.Our plans back then were to have a good go here in the Uk and then return to Thailand and live happily ever after.Circumstances beyond our control have faded the dream. Therefore bringing the children here is our option.My wife and I have visited Thailand(home) as often as we could and speaks virtually every other day on the phone, so here's our dilemma. The boy(14) has said that he would stay in Thailand with Aunt and Uncle like he has done so.The girl(10)would like to be here with us in the UK.

Is there likely to be issues raised ie why taken 7yrs before trying to bring children to Uk,would it be lengthy process especially as the wonderful coalition have made a point on immigration.

I am assuming lots and lots of paperwork proving that we have supported them for the past 7yrs etc etc.

If its possible where do we start? Has anybody experienced this.

All of your experience help or advice would be most appreciated.

Delboy

[kennkate]

Hi topdj

Just to say a Thai lady my wife goes to School with, who has been in the UK for 6 or 7 years has just been refused a Visa for her 13 year old son to join her in the Uk.

I don't know why but my wife spoke to her on the phone and I got the impression that it was all about his support that she did or did not provide for him.

so it looks like that is a issue that needs to be addressed, Along with all the other issues like accomodation Ect

I will try to find out the reason given later this week when I see her at School

[topdjdel]

Hi topdj

Just to say a Thai lady my wife goes to School with, who has been in the UK for 6 or 7 years has just been refused a Visa for her 13 year old son to join her in the Uk.

I don't know why but my wife spoke to her on the phone and I got the impression that it was all about his support that she did or did not provide for him.

so it looks like that is a issue that needs to be addressed, Along with all the other issues like accomodation Ect

I will try to find out the reason given later this week when I see her at School

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Thank you,as I thought there maybe problems ahead.Cannot even seem to get the visa form.I think by looking and reading its "settlement".

I had a feeling proving that kids were supported by us maybe a problem.Banks statements,western union receipts etc for 7yrs even phone bills with also the fact that most are paperless.

me thinks this is not going to be easy.

Many thanks

Del

[7by7]

The biggest problem is the long, 7 year separation; especially if the children have been living with their father or paternal relatives. Your wife must be able to show that she has been exercising sole responsibility over the child for all, or at least most of, that time.

Your first step is to thoroughly read SET07 - Children, paying particular attention to SET7.8 What is sole responsibility?

You should also read Maintenance and accommodation.

.Cannot even seem to get the visa form.I think by looking and reading its "settlement".

Yes, it is SETTLEMENT (VAF4A NOV 2010), in section 8.1 tick the "As the child of someone settled, or going to settle, in the UK" box.

As your wife has lived in the UK for 7 years, she presumably has ILR; in which case if her daughter's application is successful she will be granted Indefinite Leave to Enter, which is the same as ILR but issued outside the UK.

[topdjdel]

The biggest problem is the long, 7 year separation; especially if the children have been living with their father or paternal relatives. Your wife must be able to show that she has been exercising sole responsibility over the child for all, or at least most of, that time.

Your first step is to thoroughly read SET07 - Children, paying particular attention to SET7.8 What is sole responsibility?

You should also read Maintenance and accommodation.

.Cannot even seem to get the visa form.I think by looking and reading its "settlement".

Yes, it is SETTLEMENT (VAF4A NOV 2010), in section 8.1 tick the "As the child of someone settled, or going to settle, in the UK" box.

As your wife has lived in the UK for 7 years, she presumably has ILR; in which case if her daughter's application is successful she will be granted Indefinite Leave to Enter, which is the same as ILR but issued outside the UK.

Many many thanks,my wife's parents are dead so the children are with my wifes sister and brother in law and have been since she arrived here.There will no problems proving this and also current schooling.Money is regularly sent and generally all major decisions are done by my wife.Generally now reading the sections can try to make a start as the application needs to be right 1st time.

Does it mean tho that actually my wife would be completing the application(settlement) as a "sponsor" or "mother" or would I complete the application as "sponsor"? Unless Im missing something its not particularly clear.

Many thanks

Del.

[7by7]

It is usual for the natural parent to be the sponsor; this does not mean that the maintenance and accommodation cannot be provided by you, of course.

[topdjdel]

It is usual for the natural parent to be the sponsor; this does not mean that the maintenance and accommodation cannot be provided by you, of course.

Thank you again.

This brings back all those memories of wireless Rd moving around BKK with folders upon folders of paperwork.

[ThaiVisaExpress]

One of the many questions the ECO will be asking is why has the Mother taken this amount of time to apply for settlement for the child.

You will need to demonstrate you have had sole responsibility of the child.

Children

Good luck.

Edited January 3, 2011 by ThaiVisaExpress

[topdjdel]

One of the many questions the ECO will be asking is why has the Mother taken this amount of time to apply for settlement for the child.

You will need to demonstrate you have had sole responsibility of the child.

Children

Good luck.

Many thanks

It was our intention to only be in the UK for a few years,sort everything out in Thailand house car etc all paid off which is done but on a whole certain circumstances beyond our control stopped moving back to Thailand.Another problem is living,no job in Thai means no money or what you have not lasting.

I think also my wife considers it being better here for us,although like most families at times struggle we both work and think she likes that by working here can have alot more to show for working.(if that makes sense)

I am aware that questions would be asked about the boy aswell,but hes at an age where hes decicding for himself with our encouragement of course but has said that he would like to stay and follow footsteps joining the Police.

There is no doubt that we all miss eachother but decisions like my wife going back to Thai and I stay here and work have been considered.It has been hard and above everything its about making the right decision for the children.The girl is bright and intelligent and would settle very quickly no doubts at all and is excited about potentially coming here.

I do think getting a visa can be done and proving that we had been financially providing for them,family background etc schooling history etc can be documented but like when applying for my wife to the UK those memories still haunt me.

The thought of an ECO moving the goalposts again for documents scares me,so if we go ahead with the application Ive got to get it right.

Many thanks

Del

Edited January 3, 2011 by topdjdel

[cookie1003]

good luck mate,

i'll be keeping an eye on your progress as my wife has a little girl who we have always said we would bring over when we have got everything settled down over here & will be going thru the same process in the next year or so.

ps surely the process will be different for a child of a person living over here than for someone who is unskilled coming looking for work.

also would it be any different if your wife applied for a british passport for herself then applied to bring her daughter over ?

[7by7]

ps surely the process will be different for a child of a person living over here than for someone who is unskilled coming looking for work

In both cases the sponsoring parent would need to show that they can adequately accommodate and financially support the child (with the help of their partner or some other person if necessary), which may be easier to do if the parent is already in the UK and working. However, if parent and child have been living together in Thailand and are applying together then showing sole responsibility will be a lot easier than if parent and child have been separated for any length of time.

also would it be any different if your wife applied for a british passport for herself then applied to bring her daughter over ?

It would make no difference; the child would not be a British citizen and so still need to satisfy the requirements of the immigration rules.

[topdjdel]

Thanks Cookie and 7,

The British passport haha,thought about that also.My wife been here 7yrs knows every trick but that life in the uk-No hope.Alternative do the course,our wonderful government reduced something to do with the course and when we enquired our nearest college was taking applications for September this year,so that was a no no with my wife.

Sorry for going off topic,I feel confident about going for the visa but my wife is concerned which is very unlike her(probably because she wont be able to go shopping as much).

If's and buts the stress is starting but I agree that I think there will be a lot of quesstions raised because of the 7yrs living here.

If anybody knew our situation,just because my wife status is living in England(ILR)because it is genuinely like were not apart(if that makes sense)there shouldnt be any problems but I feel there will and I think wife does also.

So heres to the New Year with potentially lots of thoughts and planning.

Thanks again

Del