webfact Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Suthep urges govt's opponents to stop using violence against PM Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban Monday urged opponents of the government to stop using violence against the prime minister. Suthep said all sides, including red-shirt people and supporters of the Pheu Thai Party, should instead get themselves prepared to contest the next election. Suthep made the call after police arrested four people for allegedly planning to pelt Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva with rotten eggs at Impact Arena Muang Thong Thani Sunday evening. Suthep said those who plan to pelt the prime minister with water bottles and eggs should stop doing so or else the Pheu Thai would be perceived of encouraging the people to use violence. -- The Nation 2011-03-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) Those without imagination always fall back on violence to get their way. One reason is that their lack of imagination means no one else really wants to follow their way. Fortunately in using violence they often lack the imagination to succeed with that tactic also. Edited March 21, 2011 by animatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianf Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Those without imagination always fall back on violence to get their way. One reason is that their lack of imagination means no one else really wants to follow their way. Fortunately in using violence they often lack the imagination to succeed with that tactic also. Perhaps for 'imagination' you could substitute 'intelligence' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Would love to know what the person who wears that Democracy Monument hat to every red shirt event approves of this egg-throwing action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 The Democrats picked up a PPP seat in a by-election up north after Chuan was assaulted there a few years back. The silliness can backfire. Everyone of every party should be able to campaign everywhere free from intimidation. If that is not possible, then you wont have a free and fair democratic election, which makes it easier to question the outcome, and remember nobody will accept losing so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTumTiger Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 What - no comment from the TV Reds? Silence is telling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 What - no comment from the TV Reds? Silence is telling... They were fake eggs..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
random Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 police arrested four people for allegedly planning to pelt Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva with rotten eggs allegedly planning?????? They were either planning or not planning. But I guess its better to get hit with an egg than an m16 bullet like abhsit allowed/ordered last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Oh Per-leese! Maybe if he grew a pair instead of relying on his pet rottweiler to do the talking for him he'd take the Prescott approach to people who disagree with him http://www.telegraph...-protester.html He doesn't seem to be too comfortable in the presence of women either judging by his reactions to the signs being held up at the International Conference for Women and the Deaf women protester at the Civil Servant meeting........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Oh Per-leese! Maybe if he grew a pair instead of relying on his pet rottweiler to do the talking for him he'd take the Prescott approach to people who disagree with him http://www.telegraph...-protester.html He doesn't seem to be too comfortable in the presence of women either judging by his reactions to the signs being held up at the International Conference for Women and the Deaf women protester at the Civil Servant meeting........ We know other "politicians" in Thailand have such aspirations... (Wonder if he's any good?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 police arrested four people for allegedly planning to pelt Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva with rotten eggs allegedly planning?????? They were either planning or not planning. allegedly = not proven yet in court planning = conspiring allegedly planning = conspirators who have not had their charges proven yet in court . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asa Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Suthep? People on the other side never will listen to him. Only few dumb supporters will take it seriously that he was sincerely asking for reconciliation and peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 Pheu Thai Urged to Stop Aggressing PM A deputy prime minister calls on the opposition Pheu Thai Party to stop harassing the prime minister, saying such a campaign creates no benefit to itself and the election. Deputy Prime Minister in charge of national security Suthep Thaugsuban urged those who are reportedly planning rotten egg and bottle attack on the prime minister to give up the move given this will rather mar the upcoming election. Suthep said those involved in the move have relations with Pheu Thai and it will be the most affected party by such a campaign. The deputy premier insisted the government has never made up a situation to smear its political adversaries and reiterated the House dissolution will take place in one month as the prime minister has pledged. Suthep then stated he believed there will be no political accident that would abort the election and his ruling Democrat Party will win more MP seats in the southern border region. He said only his party or Pheu Thai would gain enough House seats to nominate one of their MPs as prime minister while advising the latter to finalize the selection of its leader before the House is dissolved. The deputy premier remarked he welcomed any new political party to run in the upcoming election as its contest will offer more alternatives for voters. -- Tan Network 2011-03-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 police arrested four people for allegedly planning to pelt Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva with rotten eggs allegedly planning?????? They were either planning or not planning. But I guess its better to get hit with an egg than an m16 bullet like abhsit allowed/ordered last year Allegedly as in charged, actually planning or not as in (to be) judged. It's indeed better to get hit by an egg than a bullet. I would almost say it's even better to get hit by an egg than a grenade even if it comes from a red-shirt supporter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landofthefree Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Pheu Thai Urged to Stop Aggressing PM The deputy premier remarked he welcomed any new political party to run in the upcoming election as its contest will offer more alternatives for voters. -- Tan Network 2011-03-21 and then when the amart dont like them we will have another coup and put the democrats back in power! To have democracy you need to have freedom of speech and an army that does not interfere in politics, sorry third world Thailand you are centuries away from ever being able to call yourself a democracy while the minority rich in Bangkok rule and control the masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) Pheu Thai Urged to Stop Aggressing PM The deputy premier remarked he welcomed any new political party to run in the upcoming election as its contest will offer more alternatives for voters. and then when the amart dont like them we will have another coup and put the democrats back in power! To have democracy you need to have freedom of speech and an army that does not interfere in politics, sorry third world Thailand you are centuries away from ever being able to call yourself a democracy while the minority rich in Bangkok rule and control the masses. Following the last coup (remember September 2006?) and new general elections December 2007 we had two governments lead by the late k. Samak and then k. Somchai. Both governments mostly remembered for only being busy finding legal or illegal ways to get k. Thaksin back and him his money. It seems unlikely we'll have another coup, unless after the coming elections PTP/UDD would by accident win the right to form a new government and continue any move to get k. Thaksin back rather than come with ideas and policies to move the country forward. IMHO, just like your piece Edited March 21, 2011 by rubl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Pheu Thai Urged to Stop Aggressing PM The deputy premier remarked he welcomed any new political party to run in the upcoming election as its contest will offer more alternatives for voters. -- Tan Network 2011-03-21 and then when the amart dont like them we will have another coup and put the democrats back in power! To have democracy you need to have freedom of speech and an army that does not interfere in politics, sorry third world Thailand you are centuries away from ever being able to call yourself a democracy while the minority rich in Bangkok rule and control the masses. Amart! LOL Yes I can see your point! Thaksin and the other funders of the terrorist charged insurrection that led to so much death and destruction in BKK are certainly Prai! I mean really! It's not fair that an extra-constitutional caretaker government that had broken electoral law was displaced by a coup and then that TRT and its proxy party were disbanded for electoral fraud! It isn't fair that the billions of baht funding the reds by their generous Prai leaders were frozen! It certainly isn't right that Newin (obviously Prai!) jumped ship after PPP was disbanded for electoral fraud caught on film! (sarcasm off) Come on, this isn't about the "amart and Prai" and it never has been! PTP is the largest opposition group in Parliament but what have they done in the last 2+ years to help their constituents? How many of their MP's are from a different family then the MP's that controlled their region 20 years ago? This is about one group of elite fighting another group of elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emptyset Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I wonder if the egg throwers were trained in Cambodia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 and then when the amart dont like them we will have another coup and put the democrats back in power! To have democracy you need to have freedom of speech and an army that does not interfere in politics, sorry third world Thailand you are centuries away from ever being able to call yourself a democracy while the minority rich in Bangkok rule and control the masses. The only way to get freedom of speech is to get rid of LM laws, but both sides are quite prepared to use the laws for their own political purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landofthefree Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 and then when the amart dont like them we will have another coup and put the democrats back in power! To have democracy you need to have freedom of speech and an army that does not interfere in politics, sorry third world Thailand you are centuries away from ever being able to call yourself a democracy while the minority rich in Bangkok rule and control the masses. The only way to get freedom of speech is to get rid of LM laws, but both sides are quite prepared to use the laws for their own political purposes. One of Abhisits favourite weapons but I accept used by all sides for their own perverted purposes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 and then when the amart dont like them we will have another coup and put the democrats back in power! To have democracy you need to have freedom of speech and an army that does not interfere in politics, sorry third world Thailand you are centuries away from ever being able to call yourself a democracy while the minority rich in Bangkok rule and control the masses. The only way to get freedom of speech is to get rid of LM laws, but both sides are quite prepared to use the laws for their own political purposes. One of Abhisits favourite weapons but I accept used by all sides for their own perverted purposes.... When has Abhisit used them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ib1b4 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 and then when the amart dont like them we will have another coup and put the democrats back in power! To have democracy you need to have freedom of speech and an army that does not interfere in politics, sorry third world Thailand you are centuries away from ever being able to call yourself a democracy while the minority rich in Bangkok rule and control the masses. The only way to get freedom of speech is to get rid of LM laws, but both sides are quite prepared to use the laws for their own political purposes. Be very careful brother, that comment is on the border line for you know what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokeddy Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 and then when the amart dont like them we will have another coup and put the democrats back in power! To have democracy you need to have freedom of speech and an army that does not interfere in politics, sorry third world Thailand you are centuries away from ever being able to call yourself a democracy while the minority rich in Bangkok rule and control the masses. The only way to get freedom of speech is to get rid of LM laws, but both sides are quite prepared to use the laws for their own political purposes. One of Abhisits favourite weapons but I accept used by all sides for their own perverted purposes.... When has Abhisit used them? Never ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 and then when the amart dont like them we will have another coup and put the democrats back in power! To have democracy you need to have freedom of speech and an army that does not interfere in politics, sorry third world Thailand you are centuries away from ever being able to call yourself a democracy while the minority rich in Bangkok rule and control the masses. The only way to get freedom of speech is to get rid of LM laws, but both sides are quite prepared to use the laws for their own political purposes. Be very careful brother, that comment is on the border line for you know what. No it's not. No mention of, let alone disrespect for, anyone. I'm just commenting on the law. It's an outdated law which restricts any discussion, positive or negative. If you can't discuss something, you can't sort out your issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) and then when the amart dont like them we will have another coup and put the democrats back in power! To have democracy you need to have freedom of speech and an army that does not interfere in politics, sorry third world Thailand you are centuries away from ever being able to call yourself a democracy while the minority rich in Bangkok rule and control the masses. The only way to get freedom of speech is to get rid of LM laws, but both sides are quite prepared to use the laws for their own political purposes. One of Abhisits favourite weapons but I accept used by all sides for their own perverted purposes.... The defamation law seems at least if not more destructive. Even k. Thaksin wins some of them while we have the current government Edited March 21, 2011 by rubl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truethailand Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 and then when the amart dont like them we will have another coup and put the democrats back in power! To have democracy you need to have freedom of speech and an army that does not interfere in politics, sorry third world Thailand you are centuries away from ever being able to call yourself a democracy while the minority rich in Bangkok rule and control the masses. The only way to get freedom of speech is to get rid of LM laws, but both sides are quite prepared to use the laws for their own political purposes. Hey Blue eyed boy how did you not get a week in the dug out for that comment.... I hate to say it but I agree with you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) The only way to get freedom of speech is to get rid of LM laws, but both sides are quite prepared to use the laws for their own political purposes. Hey Blue eyed boy how did you not get a week in the dug out for that comment.... I hate to say it but I agree with you... From the forum rules http://www.thaivisa....tion=boardrules 2) Not to express disrespect of the King of Thailand or anyone else in the Thai royal family, whether living or deceased, nor to criticize the monarchy as an institution. Speculation, comments and discussion of either a political or personal nature are not allowed when discussing HM The King or the Royal family. Discussion of the lese majeste law or lese majeste cases is permitted on the forum, providing no comment or speculation is made referencing the royal family. To breach this rule will result in immediate ban. Mentioning the LM laws is within forum guidelines. edit -- deleted the rule regarding dicussing moderation. Edited March 21, 2011 by jdinasia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiChai Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I think its rather depressing how 'gutter' the politics are in Thailand. It really reflects on the quality of people who run or aspire to run the country. It such a shame because generally Thai people are such warm, friendly and generous people. Thats why most of us are here, but its so sad to seem how much of a sham politics are here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiChai Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I think its rather depressing how 'gutter' the politics are in Thailand. It really reflects on the quality of people who run or aspire to run the country. It such a shame because generally Thai people are such warm, friendly and generous people. Thats why most of us are here, but its so sad to seem how much of a sham politics are here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 and then when the amart dont like them we will have another coup and put the democrats back in power! To have democracy you need to have freedom of speech and an army that does not interfere in politics, sorry third world Thailand you are centuries away from ever being able to call yourself a democracy while the minority rich in Bangkok rule and control the masses. The only way to get freedom of speech is to get rid of LM laws, but both sides are quite prepared to use the laws for their own political purposes. One of Abhisits favourite weapons but I accept used by all sides for their own perverted purposes.... The defamation law seems at least if not more destructive. Even k. Thaksin wins some of them while we have the current government prophetic words... as you've mentioned, here's another one the very next day. And we wonder why other court cases take so long. This one will suck dry a lot of time... PAD Members Report to Chaiyaphum Court for Defamation Suit Filed by Thaksin The People's Alliance for Democracy core leaders went to Chaiyaphum Provincial Court for a court hearing on the defamation charges filed against them by former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. The People's Alliance for Democracy, or PAD, core leaders Chumlong Srimuang, Piphob Thongchai, Somsak Kosaisuk, Somkiet Pongphaibul along with New Politics Party Secretary-General Suriyasai Katasila and representatives from ASTV and Thaiday Dot Com, went to Chaiyaphum Provincial Court to answer questions in the defamation lawsuit filed by former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. The suit named PAD core member Sondhi Limthongkul and eight others for their roles in the 193-day PAD protest. Many PAD supporters showed up at the Court in a show of support. During the questioning, PAD leaders, ASTV and Thaiday Dotcom representatives denied all of the allegations against them. Lawyers from both sides have asked the Court to commence the judicial process for the plaintiff's 16 witnesses and the defendant's 20 witnesses. The lawyers have agreed to allow the questioning to be held at Bangkok's Criminal Court for the convenience of the witnesses. One of PAD core leaders, Chumlong disclosed that all of the PAD members are denying the allegations against them and are prepared to fight the case. -- Tan Network 2011-03-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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